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  1. As part of our 'training' for the forthcoming Fred Whitton Challenge this
    Sunday (is it really that close!), last Thursday/Friday 4 of us rode the
    course over 2 days - more to check out the tandem really. We couldn't have
    had a better 2 days. The weather was brilliant and the roads were quiet.
    I've written up the route and included pictures if anyone's interested to
    see what it's like. I can heartily recommend it if you have a couple of
    days in the Lakes and want a challenging but absolutely stunningly scenic
    ride. We stayed in the Swinside Inn overnight (just off the Newlands
    Pass-Whinlatter Pass road) and the views from there in the morning sun were
    fantastic.

    See http://www.bikeit.eclipse.co.uk/localrides/ride2/index.htm

    I'm not sure I'm going to enjoy Sundays ride quite so much! Think I'll be
    glad to get round!

    Cheeers... Allan.

  2. rhnb said:

    As part of our 'training' for the forthcoming Fred Whitton Challenge this
    Sunday (is it really that close!), last Thursday/Friday 4 of us rode the
    course over 2 days - more to check out the tandem really. We couldn't have
    had a better 2 days. The weather was brilliant and the roads were quiet.
    I've written up the route and included pictures if anyone's interested to
    see what it's like. I can heartily recommend it if you have a couple of
    days in the Lakes and want a challenging but absolutely stunningly scenic
    ride. We stayed in the Swinside Inn overnight (just off the Newlands
    Pass-Whinlatter Pass road) and the views from there in the morning sun were
    fantastic.

    See http://www.bikeit.eclipse.co.uk/localrides/ride2/index.htm

    Great write up and great pics..

    ...d

  3. in message <[email hidden]>, rhnb

    (') said:

    As part of our 'training' for the forthcoming Fred Whitton Challenge
    this Sunday (is it really that close!), last Thursday/Friday 4 of us
    rode the
    course over 2 days - more to check out the tandem really. We couldn't
    have
    had a better 2 days. The weather was brilliant and the roads were
    quiet. I've written up the route and included pictures if anyone's
    interested to
    see what it's like. I can heartily recommend it if you have a couple
    of days in the Lakes and want a challenging but absolutely stunningly
    scenic
    ride. We stayed in the Swinside Inn overnight (just off the Newlands
    Pass-Whinlatter Pass road) and the views from there in the morning sun
    were fantastic.

    See http://www.bikeit.eclipse.co.uk/localrides/ride2/index.htm

    I'm not sure I'm going to enjoy Sundays ride quite so much! Think I'll
    be glad to get round!

    Yup, I've a friend who's been in training for that these last few months.
    Looking at the route that isn't the worst way to climb the Kirkstone -
    the little road straight up from Ambleside is brutal - but the Kirkstone
    is one heck of a climb however you tackle it and doing the Hardknott and
    Wrynose at the end of the day seems just cruel.

    Best of luck, to all taking part!

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    See one nuclear war, you've seen them all.

  4. On Wed, 3 May 2006 22:48:02 +0100, "rhnb" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    As part of our 'training' for the forthcoming Fred Whitton Challenge this
    Sunday (is it really that close!), last Thursday/Friday 4 of us rode the
    course over 2 days - more to check out the tandem really. We couldn't have
    had a better 2 days. The weather was brilliant and the roads were quiet.
    I've written up the route and included pictures if anyone's interested to
    see what it's like. I can heartily recommend it if you have a couple of
    days in the Lakes and want a challenging but absolutely stunningly scenic
    ride. We stayed in the Swinside Inn overnight (just off the Newlands
    Pass-Whinlatter Pass road) and the views from there in the morning sun were
    fantastic.

    See http://www.bikeit.eclipse.co.uk/localrides/ride2/index.htm

    I'm not sure I'm going to enjoy Sundays ride quite so much! Think I'll be
    glad to get round!

    Cheeers... Allan.

    I remember somebody posting about this ride last year. It looks really
    superb. I wouldn't mind having a crack at it myself sometime.

    Garry

  5. rhnb said:

    I'm not sure I'm going to enjoy Sundays ride quite so much! Think I'll be
    glad to get round!

    great pictures; I have a clubmate who's doing it. I wonder how the
    Dales Grimpeur compares scenically.

  6. garryb59 said:

    On Wed, 3 May 2006 22:48:02 +0100, "rhnb" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    As part of our 'training' for the forthcoming Fred Whitton Challenge this
    Sunday (is it really that close!), last Thursday/Friday 4 of us rode the
    course over 2 days - more to check out the tandem really. We couldn't have
    had a better 2 days. The weather was brilliant and the roads were quiet.
    I've written up the route and included pictures if anyone's interested to
    see what it's like. I can heartily recommend it if you have a couple of
    days in the Lakes and want a challenging but absolutely stunningly scenic
    ride. We stayed in the Swinside Inn overnight (just off the Newlands
    Pass-Whinlatter Pass road) and the views from there in the morning sun were
    fantastic.

    See http://www.bikeit.eclipse.co.uk/localrides/ride2/index.htm

    I'm not sure I'm going to enjoy Sundays ride quite so much! Think I'll be
    glad to get round!

    Cheeers... Allan.

    I remember somebody posting about this ride last year. It looks really
    superb. I wouldn't mind having a crack at it myself sometime.

    Garry

    Well I just heard that there are 7 or 8 places up for grabs so now's
    your chance ;-))
    Seriously...
    Anyone interested should phone the organiser Paul Loftus.
    See the event homepage for his phone number...
    http://www.fredwhittonchallenge.org.uk/

    Cheeers... Allan.

  7. MartinM said:


    great pictures; I have a clubmate who's doing it. I wonder how the
    Dales Grimpeur compares scenically.

    The Dales Grimpeur 180km is the same length but with slightly more
    climbing. I'd say the Grimpeur course is slightly harder (less
    flat bits) but there's not much in it.

    What makes the Fred Whitton much harder is the lack of cafe stops
    and chasing a time 🙂

    Arthur

    --
    Arthur Clune

  8. Arthur Clune said:


    The Dales Grimpeur 180km is the same length but with slightly more
    climbing. I'd say the Grimpeur course is slightly harder (less
    flat bits) but there's not much in it.

    And I should add that I don't think the 210k or whatever length
    it is is much harder. It's longer but there's the odd flat
    bit on those sections.

    Arthur

    --
    Arthur Clune

  9. Arthur Clune said:
    MartinM said:


    great pictures; I have a clubmate who's doing it. I wonder how the
    Dales Grimpeur compares scenically.

    The Dales Grimpeur 180km is the same length but with slightly more
    climbing. I'd say the Grimpeur course is slightly harder (less
    flat bits) but there's not much in it.

    What makes the Fred Whitton much harder is the lack of cafe stops
    and chasing a time 🙂

    I'll be chasing a time on the DG; 14h20m ;-)

  10. Arthur Clune said:

    (less
    flat bits)

    <pedant class="grammar">

    ITYM "fewer flat bits"!

    </pedant>

  11. Jon Senior said:
    Arthur Clune said:

    (less
    flat bits)

    <pedant class="grammar">
    ITYM "fewer flat bits"!
    </pedant>

    ITYF that the whole ride has many less flat bits. TUTCT hills.

    ...d

  12. David Martin said:

    ITYF that the whole ride has many less flat bits. TUTCT hills.

    Actually, ITYF that the whole ride has much less flatness, that is to say
    many fewer flat bits.

    Less cake, fewer people.

    Jon (Did I mention that my mum teaches English?)

  13. Jon Senior said:
    Arthur Clune said:

    (less
    flat bits)

    <pedant class="grammar">

    ITYM "fewer flat bits"!

    </pedant>

    he could mean that the bits are less flat rather than there are fewer
    of them....

  14. Jon Senior said:
    David Martin said:

    ITYF that the whole ride has many less flat bits. TUTCT hills.

    Actually, ITYF that the whole ride has much less flatness, that is to say
    many fewer flat bits.

    Less cake, fewer people.

    Jon (Did I mention that my mum teaches English?)

    Does she teach parsing?

    many [less flat] bits.

    Anyone got a spare hyphen?

    -

    ah! thanks..

    ...d

  15. David Martin said:

    Does she teach parsing?

    many [less flat] bits.

    Anyone got a spare hyphen?

    You might get away with some commas, but the onus is on the writer to
    remove ambiguity. "Normal"[1] parsing of the original sentence suggests
    that the word "less" was incorrectly used.

    Perhaps "many hillier bits" or "many more lumpy bits" would be better
    choices. Or even "many more scenic bits"!

    Jon

    [1] I use the term loosely. If I read the original sentence out loud it
    sounds clumsy without exaggerated pauses.

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