Francophone

And you will recognize Americans by their rudeness, ethnocentrism and the little red, white and blue
flags they are constantly unfurling.

Appkiller Who's going back to his breakfast of American fries and Freedom Toast.

Garrison Hilliard <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Doc said:

Bonjour, y a-t-il des correspondants francophones sur ce groupe de discussion? Je suis du
Canada. Doc

Yes, there are French- speaking bicycle discussion groups... you'll recognize them by their
rudeness, ethnocentrism, and the little white flags they're constantly unfurling. Regarding the
Iraq situation... let me just say that going to war without France is like deer hunting without an
accordian and my comment about Germany's being reluctant to go to war is well, gee... there's a
first time for everything, isn't there?

p.s. I really don't want to antagonize any French politicians out there though, because I know
that (speaking for both the U.S. and U.K.) you'll be there every time you need us." - my
letter to the New York Times and the BBC

.

"

Quebec was SETTLED by NATIVE INDIANS. It is a province within the COUNTRY of CANADA. Quebec has been
on the road to "self determination" forever. They keep voting NO. Eventually there may be a yes
vote, but their economy would not be able to survive without Canadian support. It's nice to separate
and have Canadians foot the bill. I wouldn't count on France to support Quebec.

"J. Ouellet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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Yes, Quebec is the homeland of my family and my people since over 350

years

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(200 years before the Canadian federation was even created in 1867 by

Great

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Britain), we settled this country, OUR country.

To me Quebec IS MY country, my NATION within Canada ... which is on it's

way

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toward self determination.

Ceci etant dit, this is not a "political forum", let's talk "cycling" ! :-)

Amicalement de

J. Ouellet

"Stan Lipnowski" <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message news:
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Quebec is not a country "J. Ouellet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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French speaking country.

"Stan Lipnowski" <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message

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> Quebec is a "land"??
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> > > And kick the French out of Canada!!! :-)
> > >
> > > --Paul
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> > :-( What do you mean ???
> > Canada was French first, long before the british invaded our

country

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> > 1760. Quebec was, is and will always be a French speaking land ... and

cycling

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Yes, Quebec is the homeland of my family and my people since over 350 years (200 years before the
Canadian federation was even created in 1867 by Great Britain), we settled this country, OUR
country.

To me Quebec IS MY country, my NATION within Canada ... which is on it's way toward self
determination.

Ceci etant dit, this is not a "political forum", let's talk "cycling" ! :-)

Amicalement de

J. Ouellet

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God bless Rene Levesque....🙂

Does anyone know if the fries and the toast were invented in France?

--
³Freedom Is a Light for Which Many Have Died in Darkness³

- Tomb of the unknown - American Revolution

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Quebec was SETTLED by NATIVE INDIANS. It is a province within the COUNTRY of CANADA.

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Hey "payback time" for all those George Clinton Bill Gore Al Bush threads we have been plagued
with...yeah.

Yeah, but this NG generally is above this type of drivel, and I apologize for contributing to it.
Stan "Mike Latondresse" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Stan Lipnowski" <[email hidden]> wrote in :"]news:[email hidden]:

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Quebec was SETTLED by NATIVE INDIANS. It is a province within the COUNTRY of CANADA.

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Hey "payback time" for all those George Clinton Bill Gore Al Bush threads we have been plagued
with...yeah.

"Garrison Hilliard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 22:10:10 -0500, "Doc" <[email hidden]>

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Bonjour, y a-t-il des correspondants francophones sur ce groupe de discussion? Je suis du
Canada. Doc

Yes, there are French- speaking bicycle discussion groups... you'll

recognize

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them by their rudeness, ethnocentrism, and the little white flags they're constantly unfurling.
Regarding the Iraq situation... let me just say that going to war without France is like deer
hunting without an accordian and my comment about Germany's being reluctant to go to war is well,
gee... there's a first time for everything, isn't there?

p.s. I really don't want to antagonize any French politicians out there though, because I know
that (speaking for both the U.S. and U.K.) you'll be there every time you need us." - my
letter to the New York Times

and

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the BBC

.

"

Shut up and go ride!

merditude!

Je believe troglodyte is both english et francaise

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Paul Southworth a écrit:

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And kick the French out of Canada!!! :-)

Comment dit-on <<troll>> en français?

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Oui,rouler dans la neige avec un mono vitesse (dérailleurs enlevés et chaine raccourcie:il faut
avoir un cadre avec pattes de fourche horizontales.) On ajoute un pneu à crampons métalliques 700x32
ou 35 à l'avant et le tour est joué. 0degréC aujourd'hui.Beau soleil. "Dave Haley"
<[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de news:
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On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 22:10:10 -0500, "Doc" <[email hidden]>

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Bonjour, y a-t-il des correspondants francophones sur ce groupe de discussion? Je suis du
Canada. Doc

Yes, there are French- speaking bicycle discussion groups... you'll

recognize

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them by their rudeness, ethnocentrism, and the little white flags

they're

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constantly unfurling. Regarding the Iraq situation... let me just say that going to war without
France is like deer hunting without an accordian and my comment about Germany's being reluctant
to go to war is well, gee... there's a first time for everything, isn't there?

p.s. I really don't want to antagonize any French politicians out there though, because I know
that (speaking for both the U.S. and U.K.) you'll be there every time you need us." - my
letter to the New York

Times

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and

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the BBC

.

"

Shut up and go ride!

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Oui,rouler dans la neige avec un mono vitesse (dérailleurs enlevés et chaine raccourcie:il faut
avoir un cadre avec pattes de fourche horizontales.) On ajoute un pneu à crampons métalliques
700x32 ou 35 à l'avant et le tour est joué. 0degréC aujourd'hui.Beau soleil. "Dave Haley"
<[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de news:
[email hidden]...

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"Garrison Hilliard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 22:10:10 -0500, "Doc" <[email hidden]>

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>Bonjour, y a-t-il des correspondants francophones sur ce groupe de discussion? Je suis du
>Canada. Doc

Yes, there are French- speaking bicycle discussion groups... you'll

recognize

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them by their rudeness, ethnocentrism, and the little white flags

they're

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constantly unfurling. Regarding the Iraq situation... let me just say that going to war
without France is like deer hunting without an accordian and my comment about Germany's being
reluctant to go to war is well, gee... there's a first time for everything, isn't there?

p.s. I really don't want to antagonize any French politicians out there though, because I know
that (speaking for both the U.S. and U.K.) you'll be there every time you need us." - my
letter to the New York

Times and

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the BBC

.

"

Shut up and go ride!

During WWII it was estimated about 30 or 40% of the American population could trace some German
ancestry; was this to say 30 or 40% of the American population during WWII were Nazi? I doubt it.
The fellow who made the French language post is from Quebec. That is a province of Canada. Currently
more than 2000 Canadian troops, mostly from the Quebec Royal 22 Regiment are preparing to return to
Afganistan. You should look into a mirror and repeat your charge of rudeness. If you are too
unidimensional to have read his post then ofcourse it was lost to you that he wrote about cycling
that is after all what this group is about!

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freedom fries, and no more french kisses. harris cyclery has to go, but so does the statue of
liberty and the washington monument. better yet, all of washington dc has to go since it was
designed by one of those traitors. finally, the us needs to rejoin the uk

You left out the park directly across from the White House. Named Lafayette Park, after some no-good
French General who (along with George Washington) was instrumental in the Battle of Yorktown, which
many say was the battle that decided the outcome of the Revolutionary War.

Somehow we seem to have forgiven Tony Blair's ancestors for burning the White House and the Capitol
in 1812. I suspect we'll eventually patch up our differences with France again as well.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles chainreactionbicycles.comchainreactionbicycles.comOpen ↗

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freedom fries, and no more french kisses. harris cyclery has to go, but so does the statue of
liberty and the washington monument. better yet, all of washington dc has to go since it was
designed by one of those traitors. finally, the us needs to rejoin the uk

"David L. Johnson" <David L. Johnson <[email hidden]>> wrote in

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AndresMuro said:

>Sheldon "Francophile" Brown

I am deleting my Harris Cyclery bookmarK!!!!

You want freedom fries with that?

Thank you ``JJ`` to say to all our friends that I am from Quebec,a part of Canada, a country just in
the north of USA!!! Merçi ``JJ`` d'avoir dit à tous nos amis que je suis du Québec,une partie du
Canada,une région juste au nord des USA!!! 🙂 🙂 Beautiful ride today by 0C. Belle randonnée
aujourd'hui par une température de 0C. "JJ" <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de news:
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Oui,rouler dans la neige avec un mono vitesse (dérailleurs enlevés et

chaine

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raccourcie:il faut avoir un cadre avec pattes de fourche horizontales.)

On

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ajoute un pneu à crampons métalliques 700x32 ou 35 à l'avant et le tour

est

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joué. 0degréC aujourd'hui.Beau soleil. "Dave Haley" <[email hidden]> a écrit dans
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"Garrison Hilliard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 22:10:10 -0500, "Doc"

<[email hidden]>

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>
> >Bonjour, y a-t-il des correspondants francophones sur ce groupe de discussion? Je suis du
> >Canada. Doc
>
> Yes, there are French- speaking bicycle discussion groups... you'll

recognize

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> them by their rudeness, ethnocentrism, and the little white flags

they're

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> constantly unfurling. Regarding the Iraq situation... let me just say that going to war
> without France is like deer hunting without an accordian and my comment about Germany's
> being reluctant to go to war is well, gee... there's a first time for everything, isn't
> there?
>
> p.s. I really don't want to antagonize any French politicians out

there

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> though, because I know that (speaking for both the U.S. and U.K.) you'll be there every time
> you need us." - my letter to the New York

Times and

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> the BBC
>
> .
>
>
> "
Shut up and go ride!

During WWII it was estimated about 30 or 40% of the American population could trace some German
ancestry; was this to say 30 or 40% of the American population during WWII were Nazi? I doubt it.
The fellow who made the French language post is from Quebec. That is a province of Canada.
Currently more than 2000 Canadian troops, mostly from the Quebec Royal 22 Regiment are preparing
to return to Afganistan. You should look into a mirror and repeat your charge of rudeness. If you
are too unidimensional to have read his post then ofcourse it was lost to you that he wrote about
cycling that is after all what this group is about!

Eh bien on est au moins deux. Je dois dire que le niveau de la discussion ne vole pas très haut. Je
croyais qu'on parlait vélo ?

Garrison, I appreciate your nice talk, specially the part about being rude and ethnocentric. I think
if YOU were a little less ethnocentric, you would realize what it means to pour radioactive waste
onto innocent civilians. Remember that the US itself put the bad guy in place, some years ago...

OK, what about going back to cycling ? I just bought some nice new parts for my old bike, and I'm
longing for the week-end to install them.

Jacques

Doc said:

Oui,rouler dans la neige avec un mono vitesse (dérailleurs enlevés et chaine raccourcie:il faut
avoir un cadre avec pattes de fourche horizontales.) On ajoute un pneu à crampons métalliques
700x32 ou 35 à l'avant et le tour est joué. 0degréC aujourd'hui.Beau soleil. "Dave Haley"
<[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de news:
[email hidden]...

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"Garrison Hilliard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 22:10:10 -0500, "Doc" <[email hidden]>

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>Bonjour, y a-t-il des correspondants francophones sur ce groupe de discussion? Je suis du
>Canada. Doc

Yes, there are French- speaking bicycle discussion groups... you'll

recognize

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them by their rudeness, ethnocentrism, and the little white flags

they're

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constantly unfurling. Regarding the Iraq situation... let me just say that going to war without
France is like deer hunting without an accordian and my comment about Germany's being reluctant
to go to war is well, gee... there's a first time for everything, isn't there?

p.s. I really don't want to antagonize any French politicians out there though, because I know
that (speaking for both the U.S. and U.K.) you'll be there every time you need us." - my
letter to the New York

Times

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and

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the BBC

.

"

Shut up and go ride!

Garrison Hilliard said:

Doc said:

Bonjour, y a-t-il des correspondants francophones sur ce groupe de discussion? Je suis du
Canada. Doc

Yes, there are French- speaking bicycle discussion groups... you'll recognize them by their
rudeness, ethnocentrism, and the little white flags they're constantly unfurling.

And what are we to make of *your* egregious rudeness, ethnocentrism and arrogance? What a pathetic,
petty minded jerk you seem.

Maybe you should study your American history a little better- you'd find out that if it weren't
for the French, the English would have kicked Washington's ass and you'd still be a subject of
the Crown.

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Regarding the Iraq situation...

...not that anyone was talking about it or that it has anything to do with bicycles...

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let me just say that going to war without France is like deer hunting without an accordian

And as you've shown, you can access ths Internet without a brain.

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p.s. I really don't want to antagonize any French politicians out there though, because I know
that (speaking for both the U.S. and
U.K.) you'll be there every time you need us." - my letter to the New York Times and the BBC

What a maroon.

Tim McNamara said:

Maybe you should study your American history a little better- you'd find out that if it weren't
for the French, the English would have kicked Washington's ass and you'd still be a subject of
the Crown.

incurred by France to the U.S.A. 1941-1945.

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Regarding the Iraq situation...

....not that anyone was talking about it or that it has anything to do with bicycles...

People in Iraq don't ride bicycles?

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let me just say that going to war without France is like deer hunting without an accordian

And as you've shown, you can access ths Internet without a >brain.

Really? Explain that one to me!

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p.s. I really don't want to antagonize any French politicians out there though, because I know
that (speaking for both the U.S. and
U.K.) you'll be there every time you need us." - my letter to the New York Times and the BBC

What a maroon.

The word/insult is "moron", unless you're a cartoonish buffoon... never mind, I see now that you
can use it.

"Garrison" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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Tim McNamara said:

Maybe you should study your American history a little better- you'd find out that if it weren't
for the French, the English would have kicked Washington's ass and you'd still be a subject of
the Crown.

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incurred by France to the U.S.A. 1941-1945.

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Regarding the Iraq situation...

....not that anyone was talking about it or that it has anything to do with bicycles...

People in Iraq don't ride bicycles?

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let me just say that going to war without France is like deer hunting without an accordian

And as you've shown, you can access ths Internet without a >brain.

Really? Explain that one to me!

Quoted message said:

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p.s. I really don't want to antagonize any French politicians out there though, because I know
that (speaking for both the U.S. and
U.K.) you'll be there every time you need us." - my letter to the New York Times and the BBC

What a maroon.

The word/insult is "moron", unless you're a cartoonish buffoon... never mind, I see now that you
can use it.

...perhaps the day will come when we ALL ride bicycles, mème en hiver et au Canada français ou
anglais, and the limited oil our planet has will be for the making of important things, not to burn
like there is no tomorrow and like there will not be generations to follow, and when we realize we
really are only alike... - Ъ×

Michael MacClancy <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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In message <[email hidden]>, Sheldon Brown <[email hidden]> writes

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Ask the travelled inhabitant of any nation |
| "In what country on earth would you rather | live?" | "Certainly in my own, where are all my |
| friends, my relations, and the earliest | recollections of my life." | "Which would be your
| second choice?" | "FRANCE !!" --Jefferson 1821 |

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Well, Jefferson wasn't going to say England in those days, was he? Perhaps he might have changed
his mind by now?

I have to wonder if Jefferson were alive today if France might be his first choice. The USA Patriot
Act largly dismantles the 1st and 4th ammendments from the Bill of Rights of our Constitution. The
act defines terrorist so broadly that citizens legally expressing their dissent could be roped in.
The Act also gives the FBI and CIA greater rights to wiretap phones, monitor e-mail, search medical,
financial, and student records, and search homes and offices without probable cause, a court order,
or even informing the person being investigated. The Act also allows the CIA to spy on its own
citizens by infiltrating religious and political organizations. It gives agencies the ability to
deny requests under the Fredom of Information Act and allows law enforcement to monitor previously
confidential client-attourney communications. Bush and Ashcroft derieds anyone who complains about
the erosion of our civil liberties as being un-American.

For better or worse we are turning into a police state.

back to your regularly scheduled program, Bruce
--
Bruce Jackson - Sr. Systems Programmer - DMSP, a M/A/R/C Group company