Frame kaput

Jason Spaceman said:

I came across this video on the internets:

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-474879982723077114&q=eddy+merckx

I'm not sure how the guy snapped his frame like that, I hope he wasn't
moving at a high rate of speed when it happened. The audio is in Dutch (I
think) so I can't understand what he is saying. Anyone care to translate?

Real Bikes are made of steel

Not that won't fracture occasionally too 🙂

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Jason Spaceman said:

I came across this video on the internets:

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-474879982723077114&q=eddy+merckx

I'm not sure how the guy snapped his frame like that, I hope he wasn't
moving at a high rate of speed when it happened. The audio is in Dutch (I
think) so I can't understand what he is saying. Anyone care to translate?

J. Spaceman

Yes it's Dutch. This guy shows his Eddy Merckx frame after a race in the
hills in the southern part of the Netherlands. In a descent he had to
avoid somebody else because his brakes didn't work to well in the wet.
He went through a ditch and suddenly his frame broke in two pieces.

Lou
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Lou Holtman said:

Jason Spaceman said:

I came across this video on the internets:

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-474879982723077114&q=eddy+merckx

I'm not sure how the guy snapped his frame like that, I hope he wasn't
moving at a high rate of speed when it happened. The audio is in
Dutch (I
think) so I can't understand what he is saying. Anyone care to
translate?

J. Spaceman

Yes it's Dutch. This guy shows his Eddy Merckx frame after a race in the
hills in the southern part of the Netherlands. In a descent he had to
avoid somebody else because his brakes didn't work to well in the wet.
He went through a ditch and suddenly his frame broke in two pieces.

Lou

By the way this frame was three weeks old...

Lou
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Davey Crockett said:

Jason Spaceman said:

I came across this video on the internets:

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-474879982723077114&q=eddy+merckx

I'm not sure how the guy snapped his frame like that, I hope he wasn't
moving at a high rate of speed when it happened. The audio is in Dutch (I
think) so I can't understand what he is saying. Anyone care to translate?

Real Bikes are made of steel

Somebody tell me again why I want a Carbon Fiber Reinforced *Plastic*
frame????

Quoted message said:

Not that won't fracture occasionally too 🙂

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Davey Crockett

Ozark Bicycle said:

Davey Crockett said:

Jason Spaceman said:

I came across this video on the internets:

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-474879982723077114&q=eddy+merckx

I'm not sure how the guy snapped his frame like that, I hope he wasn't
moving at a high rate of speed when it happened. The audio is in Dutch (I
think) so I can't understand what he is saying. Anyone care to translate?

Real Bikes are made of steel

Somebody tell me again why I want a Carbon Fiber Reinforced *Plastic*
frame????

I assume you're talking about carbon fiber frames. If so, the reason
to use them is a good combination of lightness, stiffness and
durability. This assumes performance (riding fast) is important to
you.
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Ozark Bicycle said:

Davey Crockett said:

Jason Spaceman said:

I came across this video on the internets:

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-474879982723077114&q=eddy+merckx

I'm not sure how the guy snapped his frame like that, I hope he wasn't
moving at a high rate of speed when it happened. The audio is in Dutch (I
think) so I can't understand what he is saying. Anyone care to translate?

Real Bikes are made of steel

Somebody tell me again why I want a Carbon Fiber Reinforced *Plastic*
frame????

Choose any:

Cuz that's teh leet.

Marketing says: They're What You Want!

[RACER_NAME] rides one, it must be the best.

Aluminum is too harsh, and steel is so last-century.

Aluminum is too whippy, and steel is so last-century.

Nobody makes a good [METAL] frame anymore; they've all gone over to
carbon, and that's the only way to get a good bike now.

We're closing out last year's models for a really great price.

It's so light!

Well, you *could* ride something else, but it wouldn't have
[WHIZBANG_FEATURE_DU_JOUR].

[MARKETING_PROPAGANDA]

(Okay, so I cheated a bit; that last one is actually redundant, as it
encompasses all of the ones above it in the list, along with the vast
majority of the other possible "reasons" why you're supposed to want a
carbon-fiber-reinforced plastic-resin-frame bike.)

Did I miss any?
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John Forrest Tomlinson said:

Ozark Bicycle said:

Davey Crockett said:

Jason Spaceman <[email hidden]> writes:

> I came across this video on the internets:
>
> http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-474879982723077114&q=eddy+merckx
>
> I'm not sure how the guy snapped his frame like that, I hope he wasn't
> moving at a high rate of speed when it happened. The audio is in Dutch (I
> think) so I can't understand what he is saying. Anyone care to translate?
>

Real Bikes are made of steel

Somebody tell me again why I want a Carbon Fiber Reinforced *Plastic*
frame????

I assume you're talking about carbon fiber frames.

I'm talking about Carbon Fiber Reinforced *Plastic* frames. Do you know
what you are talking about?

Quoted message said:

If so, the reason
to use them is a good combination of lightness, stiffness and
durability.

Durability? Yeah, let's ask that Dutch rider!

Quoted message said:

This assumes performance (riding fast) is important to
you.

If you're well known as a "minuteman", does that mean you're fast?

Werehatrack said:

Ozark Bicycle said:

Davey Crockett said:

Jason Spaceman <[email hidden]> writes:

> I came across this video on the internets:
>
> http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-474879982723077114&q=eddy+merckx
>
> I'm not sure how the guy snapped his frame like that, I hope he wasn't
> moving at a high rate of speed when it happened. The audio is in Dutch (I
> think) so I can't understand what he is saying. Anyone care to translate?
>

Real Bikes are made of steel

Somebody tell me again why I want a Carbon Fiber Reinforced *Plastic*
frame????

Choose any:

Cuz that's teh leet.

Marketing says: They're What You Want!

[RACER_NAME] rides one, it must be the best.

Aluminum is too harsh, and steel is so last-century.

Aluminum is too whippy, and steel is so last-century.

Nobody makes a good [METAL] frame anymore; they've all gone over to
carbon, and that's the only way to get a good bike now.

We're closing out last year's models for a really great price.

It's so light!

Well, you *could* ride something else, but it wouldn't have
[WHIZBANG_FEATURE_DU_JOUR].

[MARKETING_PROPAGANDA]

(Okay, so I cheated a bit; that last one is actually redundant, as it
encompasses all of the ones above it in the list, along with the vast
majority of the other possible "reasons" why you're supposed to want a
carbon-fiber-reinforced plastic-resin-frame bike.)

Did I miss any?

Coffee shop, racer wannabe Poseur points? i.e., you don't need to ride
the damned thing, just stand next to it! ;-)

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Quoted message said:

Davey Crockett said:

Real Bikes are made of steel

Somebody tell me again why I want a Carbon Fiber Reinforced *Plastic*
frame????

To go with pink lycra! ;-)

Jason Spaceman said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-474879982723077114&q=eddy+merckx

I'm not sure how the guy snapped his frame like that, I hope he wasn't
moving at a high rate of speed when it happened. The audio is in

Lou Holtman said:

By the way this frame was three weeks old...

He should have bought a Bianchi.

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Quoted message said:

Jason Spaceman said:

Quoted message said:

>

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-474879982723077114&q=eddy+merckx

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>
> I'm not sure how the guy snapped his frame like that, I hope he wasn't
> moving at a high rate of speed when it happened. The audio is in

Lou Holtman said:

By the way this frame was three weeks old...

He should have bought a Bianchi.

Why?

Lou

Lou Holtman said:

Donald Munro said:

He should have bought a Bianchi.

Why?

http://groups.google.com/groups/search?q=bianchi+appaling+group%3Arec.bicycles.racing

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Quoted message said:

Lou Holtman said:

Jason Spaceman said:

I came across this video on the internets:

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-474879982723077114&q=eddy+merckx

I'm not sure how the guy snapped his frame like that, I hope he wasn't
moving at a high rate of speed when it happened. The audio is in Dutch
(I
think) so I can't understand what he is saying. Anyone care to
translate?

J. Spaceman

Yes it's Dutch. This guy shows his Eddy Merckx frame after a race in the
hills in the southern part of the Netherlands. In a descent he had to
avoid somebody else because his brakes didn't work to well in the wet. He
went through a ditch and suddenly his frame broke in two pieces.

Lou

By the way this frame was three weeks old...

Lou

Not an accurate translation.

You missed out the trunk bit,

He went through a ditch in to the wood and hit a tree trunk.

Then "suddenly" his frame broke.

Taeke

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Lou Holtman said:

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Quoted message said:

Jason Spaceman said:

>>

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-474879982723077114&q=eddy+merckx

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>>
>> I'm not sure how the guy snapped his frame like that, I hope he wasn't
>> moving at a high rate of speed when it happened. The audio is in

Lou Holtman said:

By the way this frame was three weeks old...

He should have bought a Bianchi.

Why?

Inside joke. You know how occasionally somebody will
post a question, then start arguing with the answers?
Recently, for example, a lady inquired here about a
touring frame for herself, then treated every answer as
if it were irrelevant, wrong, an attack, or all three,
stating exactly why she thought so and treating the
people who wrote answers like dirt. A couple/three
years ago somebody reported that his Bianchi frame
failed, and Bianchi's response to his claim against the
warranty did not satisfy him. That thread went well
into the hundreds of messages. I am sure someone can
direct you to it. Can we search the archive for threads
that transcend a given message count?

--
Michael Press

Michael Press said:

A couple/three
years ago somebody reported that his Bianchi frame
failed, and Bianchi's response to his claim against the
warranty did not satisfy him. That thread went well
into the hundreds of messages. I am sure someone can
direct you to it. Can we search the archive for threads
that transcend a given message count?

--
Michael Press

yepperz

that was a jim-dandy thread

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Davey Crockett

Ozark Bicycle said:

John Forrest Tomlinson said:

Ozark Bicycle said:

Davey Crockett wrote:
> Jason Spaceman <[email hidden]> writes:
>
> > I came across this video on the internets:
> >
> > http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-474879982723077114&q=eddy+merckx
> >
> > I'm not sure how the guy snapped his frame like that, I hope he wasn't
> > moving at a high rate of speed when it happened. The audio is in Dutch (I
> > think) so I can't understand what he is saying. Anyone care to translate?
> >
>
> Real Bikes are made of steel
>

Somebody tell me again why I want a Carbon Fiber Reinforced *Plastic*
frame????

I assume you're talking about carbon fiber frames.

I'm talking about Carbon Fiber Reinforced *Plastic* frames. Do you know
what you are talking about?

The guy in the link was riding what is commonly called a carbon fiber
frame. So I'm talking about the frames commonly called "carbon
fiber." I don't know if the term you're using refers to them or not
because I'm ignorant of what "Carbon Fiber Reinforced *Plastic* means.
Is it the same thing?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

If so, the reason
to use them is a good combination of lightness, stiffness and
durability.

Durability? Yeah, let's ask that Dutch rider!

Do you know how that frame broke? Do you think other frames would
have survived the incident? Particulary another frame withing a pound
or two of the same weight? Or do you not know and are you just being a
jerk? Let's guess. Or you can tell me.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

This assumes performance (riding fast) is important to
you.

If you're well known as a "minuteman", does that mean you're fast?

I don't know what a minuteman is in cycling. What does it mean?

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Ozark Bicycle said:

Werehatrack said:

Ozark Bicycle said:

Davey Crockett wrote:
> Jason Spaceman <[email hidden]> writes:
>
> > I came across this video on the internets:
> >
> > http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-474879982723077114&q=eddy+merckx
> >
> > I'm not sure how the guy snapped his frame like that, I hope he wasn't
> > moving at a high rate of speed when it happened. The audio is in Dutch (I
> > think) so I can't understand what he is saying. Anyone care to translate?
> >
>
> Real Bikes are made of steel
>

Somebody tell me again why I want a Carbon Fiber Reinforced *Plastic*
frame????

Choose any:

Cuz that's teh leet.

Marketing says: They're What You Want!

[RACER_NAME] rides one, it must be the best.

Aluminum is too harsh, and steel is so last-century.

Aluminum is too whippy, and steel is so last-century.

Nobody makes a good [METAL] frame anymore; they've all gone over to
carbon, and that's the only way to get a good bike now.

We're closing out last year's models for a really great price.

It's so light!

Well, you *could* ride something else, but it wouldn't have
[WHIZBANG_FEATURE_DU_JOUR].

[MARKETING_PROPAGANDA]

(Okay, so I cheated a bit; that last one is actually redundant, as it
encompasses all of the ones above it in the list, along with the vast
majority of the other possible "reasons" why you're supposed to want a
carbon-fiber-reinforced plastic-resin-frame bike.)

Did I miss any?

Coffee shop, racer wannabe Poseur points? i.e., you don't need to ride
the damned thing, just stand next to it! ;-)

Quite right Ozark, if *you* had a light, stiff racing bike it would be
posing. You wouldn't benefit from one and shouldn't be seen with one.
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John Forrest Tomlinson said:

Ozark Bicycle said:

John Forrest Tomlinson said:

On 27 Nov 2006 14:02:59 -0800, "Ozark Bicycle"
<[email hidden]> wrote:

>Davey Crockett wrote:
>> Jason Spaceman <[email hidden]> writes:
>>
>> > I came across this video on the internets:
>> >
>> > http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-474879982723077114&q=eddy+merckx
>> >
>> > I'm not sure how the guy snapped his frame like that, I hope he wasn't
>> > moving at a high rate of speed when it happened. The audio is in Dutch (I
>> > think) so I can't understand what he is saying. Anyone care to translate?
>> >
>>
>> Real Bikes are made of steel
>>
>
>Somebody tell me again why I want a Carbon Fiber Reinforced *Plastic*
>frame????

I assume you're talking about carbon fiber frames.

I'm talking about Carbon Fiber Reinforced *Plastic* frames. Do you know
what you are talking about?

The guy in the link was riding what is commonly called a carbon fiber
frame. So I'm talking about the frames commonly called "carbon
fiber." I don't know if the term you're using refers to them or not
because I'm ignorant of what "Carbon Fiber Reinforced *Plastic* means.
Is it the same thing?

Google is your friend; probably your only friend. ;-)

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Ozark Bicycle said:

John Forrest Tomlinson wrote:

<snip>

Quoted message said:

The guy in the link was riding what is commonly called a carbon fiber
frame. So I'm talking about the frames commonly called "carbon
fiber." I don't know if the term you're using refers to them or not
because I'm ignorant of what "Carbon Fiber Reinforced *Plastic* means.
Is it the same thing?

<snip>

Quoted message said:

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Technically, carbon fiber reinforced composites are plastic based
materials. Epoxy is one of the most common plastics used. Like
fiberglass, the epoxy or other plastic can be used as either a binder to
hold the fibers together if they are in mats, fabrics or other organized
forms or the fibers can be loosely dispersed or chopped up to add
strength to the plastic material.

Most "fiberglass" products are made from glass fiber reinforced plastics
whereas most carbon fiber reinforced composites use higher
concentrations of fibers that are surrounded with a plastic binder.

Chas.