FR (fit report)

"Monique Y. Mudama" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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After multiple people recommended the place, I made an
appointment to get my bike fit to me with Sports Garage in
Boulder. I'd never considered it for bike stuff before
because the name sounded so generic, like Gart's or
something -- what a mistake! If I'd come to Sports Garage
first, I might have ended up with ... well, whatever.
Can't change the past. It just "feels" like a real bike
shop and not just a place to sell stuff (that happens to
be bikes).

So, anyway, this was a full-up three hour fitting. They
have an espresso machine for optional before and after
noshing, and poweraid and water for during. I opted to
avoid the caffeine hit till after the workout. We went
through a ton of lifestyle, activities, and injury
questions, then took bunches of measurements. They have
this nifty stationary bike that adjusts, so he made it
like my bike, then had me pedal.

So this was interesting. I'm not sure whether we spent
more time adjusting the bike or adjusting me. We worked on
proper pedalling technique and on keeping my back properly
aligned rather than hunching my shoulders. In between
working on this, Tim would tweak a setting here, measure
an angle there. It was basically a video game -- a big tv
screen where I could monitor my RPMs, wattage, and some
score that apparently indicated my pedalling efficiency.
There was a lot of sweat involved.

The upshot: a new seatpost with the fastner centered
rather than rearward,

Word. I hate offset seatposts.

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as well as the saddle being positioned farther up, and an
80mm stem rather than the 120 or so I had before.

It's a Sugar, right? Well, I felt the cockpit was a bit long
too. I went with a shorter stem (RF Deus) when I upgraded
parts too.

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Funny; he made my cockpit shorter, which seems like the
opposite of what I wanted. But when I'm not hunching my
shoulders, it feels really comfortable. And for those of
you bontrager anti-fans out there, this is two fewer bonti
pieces on my bike.

Indeed. Bonti stuff, despite the debt we owe to guys like
KB, sucks.

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Anyway, can't wait to try it out and see what I think.

Ride the freakin' hell out of it.

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My only problem is the espresso ... I'm not used to
caffeine anymore, and now I can't get to sleep! Actually,
my brain's kind of asleep, so my fingers are typing this
of their own accord -- hope this doesn't end up *too*
disjointed.

Well, I'm pretty drunk, and I think I avoided a bunch of
typos. Everyone should wathc Aqua Teen Hunger Force,
like I am.

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--
monique

Chris -also has a Sugar. Loves the ride, despite folks like
JD

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Anyway, can't wait to try it out and see what I think.

My only problem is the espresso ... I'm not used to
caffeine anymore, and now I can't get to sleep! Actually,
my brain's kind of asleep, so my fingers are typing this
of their own accord -- hope this doesn't end up *too*
disjointed.

We had Jim fitted for his track bike, it was quite an
interesting experience but well worth the time and effort.

- CA-G

Can-Am Girls Kick Ass!

<Originally posted by Carla A-G
We had Jim fitted for his track bike, it was quite an
interesting experience but well worth the time and effort.

- CA-G

Can-Am Girls Kick Ass!>

It was pretty cool getting fit up for a bike. I will say it did seem counter intuitive though. After he took all the measurments he told me a frame size that I thought would be too small...
We let the numbers do the talking though and when I got the bike it fit perfectly...
Amazing this math stuff!

Jimbo(san)

On 2004-06-22, Chris penned:

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It's a Sugar, right? Well, I felt the cockpit was a bit
long too. I went with a shorter stem (RF Deus) when I
upgraded parts too.

The funny part about it is that I actually got the Sugar in
part for the longer cockpit, and I had a longer stem put on
when I first got it. Turns out that was all due to bad bike
posture. The trick will be to train myself to ride properly.

Tim, my fitter person, said to watch Tyler Hamilton ride. He
said he's got the best example of a proper back position in
the lead peliton (sp?).

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Indeed. Bonti stuff, despite the debt we owe to guys like
KB, sucks.

KB?

I really don't see how a stem or a seatpost could suck or be
outstanding, to be honest. It has to not break, and that's
about it, no?

Oh, I also asked them to weigh the bike while I was there.
They have a nifty stand that has a built-in scale. 29.5
pounds. He had me guess first, and I said 30. So it's not
exactly the lightest puppy on the block ... but then, I
should be able to shed weight a lot easier than it can.

He also adjusted the rebound on my shocks, which were both
set to ultra-slow. The upshot of that is that I can suddenly
lift my front wheel easily again.

--
monique

Chris said:

Everyone should wathc Aqua Teen Hunger Force, like I am.

I'm so hooked on athf. I havn't yet met anyone in meatspace
who appreciates it.

Monique Y. Mudama said:

Tim, my fitter person, said to watch Tyler Hamilton ride.
He said he's got the best example of a proper back
position in the lead peliton (sp?).

Peleton :O)

I would imagine his posture was terrible last year - he rode
most of Le Tour with a broken collarbone.

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Indeed. Bonti stuff, despite the debt we owe to guys like
KB, sucks.

KB?

Keith Bontrager. Originator of the Bontrager equipment and
some very nice frames before he sold out to Trek.

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I really don't see how a stem or a seatpost could suck or
be outstanding, to be honest. It has to not break, and
that's about it, no?

You're essentially right. Weight has to be taken in to
consideration. Getting a strong, light post / stem that
doesn't slip and doesn't break is the goal.

Monique Y. Mudama said:

On 2004-06-22, Chris penned:

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Tim, my fitter person, said to watch Tyler Hamilton ride.
He said he's got the best example of a proper back
position in the lead peliton (sp?).

While that may be true, ones position on a road bike,
especially for racing, is not the same as the position on a
mountain bike, again for a casual mountain bike rider. And,
I certainly would not use Tyler as an example of mountain
bike fit, considering the importance of bike handling skills
in mountain biking. He is not known for his bike handling
skills, as his frequent crashes attest to.

--
Craig Brossman, Durango Colorado (remove ".nospam" to reply)

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Chris said:

Everyone should wathc Aqua Teen Hunger Force, like I am.

I'm so hooked on athf. I havn't yet met anyone in
meatspace who appreciates it.

My friends - once Simpsons, then Family Guy addicts - are
just catching on to ATHF, like in the past two weeks,
despite my giving them a disc with episodes like Bus of the
Undead and Mooninites about two years ago. Morons.

They're beginning to understand why, at our poker night, I
adopt a lazy accent and proclaim, "the innocent shall
suffer...big time" before taking their money.

Chris

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And, I certainly would not use Tyler as an example of
mountain bike fit,

or even road bike fit because Phil Liggett often picks him
out of the pack by his 'odd upright posture on the bike'.

Chris said:

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Chris said:

Everyone should wathc Aqua Teen Hunger Force, like I am.

I'm so hooked on athf. I havn't yet met anyone in
meatspace who appreciates it.

My friends - once Simpsons, then Family Guy addicts - are
just catching on to ATHF, like in the past two weeks,
despite my giving them a disc with episodes like Bus of
the Undead and Mooninites about two years ago. Morons.

They're beginning to understand why, at our poker night, I
adopt a lazy accent and proclaim, "the innocent shall
suffer...big time" before taking their money.

Chris

They cannot beging to comprehend us

On 2004-06-22, Jimbo penned:

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It was pretty cool getting fit up for a bike. I will say
it did seem counter intuitive though. After he took all
the measurments he told me a frame size that I thought
would be too small... We let the numbers do the talking
though and when I got the bike it fit perfectly... Amazing
this math stuff!

Yeah. It really weirded me out that he was shrinking
everything, but what he said about posture made a lot of
sense.

Of course, if it sucks, I still have the old parts.

--
monique

On 2004-06-22, bomba penned:

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Monique Y. Mudama said:

Tim, my fitter person, said to watch Tyler Hamilton ride.
He said he's got the best example of a proper back
position in the lead peliton (sp?).

Peleton :O)

I would imagine his posture was terrible last year - he
rode most of Le Tour with a broken collarbone.

Yeah. I would imagine, too. And his poor teeth!

I guess I just don't have the grit* to be a professional
athlete. When it comes to self-induced permanent damage,
count me out!

* Or the muscle, but, you know, whatever.

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I really don't see how a stem or a seatpost could suck or
be outstanding, to be honest. It has to not break, and
that's about it, no?

You're essentially right. Weight has to be taken in to
consideration. Getting a strong, light post / stem that
doesn't slip and doesn't break is the goal.

Sure, weight is a factor, but I have so many other heavy
pieces on my bike ... not to mention my own fat ass and a
filled camelbak with all sorts of stuff in it ...

The replacements were a Salsa 80mm stem and a Thomson
something or other seatpost.

--
monique

On 2004-06-22, Craig Brossman penned:

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Monique Y. Mudama said:

On 2004-06-22, Chris penned:

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Tim, my fitter person, said to watch Tyler Hamilton ride.
He said he's got the best example of a proper back
position in the lead peliton (sp?).

While that may be true, ones position on a road bike,
especially for racing, is not the same as the position on
a mountain bike, again for a casual mountain bike rider.

Sure. But the main thing he emphasized was getting my
weight off my hands. I don't think any kind of cycling
espouses having all your weight on your hands. The back
position was a means to doing so, and to getting more power
from my glutes.

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And, I certainly would not use Tyler as an example of
mountain bike fit, considering the importance of bike
handling skills in mountain biking. He is not known for
his bike handling skills, as his frequent crashes
attest to.

That's kinda scary. I didn't realize that.

--
monique

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It really weirded me out that he was shrinking everything

Don't let that weird you out too much. I mean, look at
Sorni; He still goes out in public.

--
Slacker

On 2004-06-23, Slacker penned:

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Monique Y. Mudama said:

It really weirded me out that he was shrinking everything

Don't let that weird you out too much. I mean, look at
Sorni; He still goes out in public.

-- Slacker

!!

--
monique

Monique Y. Mudama said:

On 2004-06-23, Slacker penned:

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Monique Y. Mudama said:

It really weirded me out that he was shrinking
everything

Don't let that weird you out too much. I mean, look at
Sorni; He still goes out in public.

-- Slacker

!!

Don't encourage him.

Bill "well, women have breast reductions, so..." S.

Monique Y. Mudama said:

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I would imagine his posture was terrible last year - he
rode most of Le Tour with a broken collarbone.

Yeah. I would imagine, too. And his poor teeth!

Poor teeth? He's not English, is he? 🙂

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I guess I just don't have the grit* to be a professional
athlete. When it comes to self-induced permanent damage,
count me out!

I played 35 minutes of an international rugby game with a
fractured cheekbone last year...

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You're essentially right. Weight has to be taken in to
consideration. Getting a strong, light post / stem that
doesn't slip and doesn't break is the goal.

Sure, weight is a factor, but I have so many other heavy
pieces on my bike ...

Take care of the oz.s and the pounds will look after
themselves.

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not to mention my own fat ass and a filled camelbak with
all sorts of stuff in it ...

Of course, that helps with the amount of weight that has to
be carried up any given hill, but the weight of the bike
affects the way it rides.

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The replacements were a Salsa 80mm stem and a Thomson
something or other seatpost.

Lucky girly. Those are some very nice bits.

On 2004-06-23, bomba penned:

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Monique Y. Mudama said:

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I would imagine his posture was terrible last year - he
rode most of Le Tour with a broken collarbone.

Yeah. I would imagine, too. And his poor teeth!

Poor teeth? He's not English, is he? 🙂

He ground them all down from the pain while riding ... he
needed like 12 crowns or something.

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I guess I just don't have the grit* to be a professional
athlete. When it comes to self-induced permanent damage,
count me out!

I played 35 minutes of an international rugby game with a
fractured cheekbone last year...

Like I said ...

Although I know that adrenaline does some crazy things. I've
completed podunk sparring matches before realizing that I'd
sprained my ankle. Once I had more than a few seconds to
rest, the pain came crashing in on
me.

I've been lucky enough never to fracture or break anything
... so far.

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Sure, weight is a factor, but I have so many other heavy
pieces on my bike ...

Take care of the oz.s and the pounds will look after
themselves.

Yes, if by ounces you mean ounces of cheese!

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not to mention my own fat ass and a filled camelbak with
all sorts of stuff in it ...

Of course, that helps with the amount of weight that has
to be carried up any given hill, but the weight of the
bike affects the way it rides.

Sure, as does the weight distribution ... actually, after
the fit, Tim (my fitter guy) noticed that my rebound
settings were all ultra-slow. He fixed it all up for me and
set the shocks properly, and now I can once again easily
lift the front wheel, bunny hop, etc. It feels like it's
actually easier than before.

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The replacements were a Salsa 80mm stem and a Thomson
something or other seatpost.

Lucky girly. Those are some very nice bits.

Oh ... I didn't really know. I just asked for "cheap,
please." The stem wasn't that much; the seatpost was,
because he said they didn't have any cheaper ones with a
center attachment thingie. Maybe he cut me a deal, or maybe
their prices are just tons better than the place where I
originally got the bike. Either way, the service was top
notch. When I start shopping for the Perfect Bike, I will go
to Sports Garage.

--
monique

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Lucky girly. Those are some very nice bits.

Dirty flirt.

Shaun aRe