Four things to say goodbye to in 2005

ronde chumpion said:

Hey,

1) Heinz Verbruggen The UCI boss is ending Kelme, which is fine. But
letting Cofidis continue is a crime. Don't even talk about the
stupidity of the proposed Pro Tour (www.uci.ch) for the future. Talk
about killing tradition.

good riddance to both. Oh and it's Hein no "z"

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2) Dario Pieri Mr Krispy Kreme was second in P-R in 2003, 17 kilos
heavier this year, and will be unemployed by 2005.

sucks to be him

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3) Sea Otter road events It took this long for teams and racers to
figure out that Rick Sutton is a clown, and should only be promoting
fourth of july town fairs in Montana.

umm ok if you say so, but mtb is at an all time low in USA sponsership
and TV time wise, (and I'm only guessing particapationshipwise) except
DH of course, and is that really bike racing?

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4) USPS Team. Don't lose heart, The US has had a team in the Tour
EVERY year since 1986, and American's have won half of the last 20
Tour de France. Someone will pick up the slack. Don't be surprised if
it is Dodge (Daimler-Chrysler).

yep some US team will emerge but will they comand the likes of Postal,
which is likely to become BarryFloor out of Beligium?

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You heard it here first. Look how accurate my Gord/Mario thread is a
year later.

Mario and his train will school the US teams.

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Thanks,
Ronde Chumpion

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Rick Sutton is a clown, and should only be promoting

fourth of july town fairs in Montana.<<

Please moderate your advocacy of relegating Mr. Sutton to our neck. From my
vantage point, it looks as though Sea Otter needs him far more than any Montana
town might. Oh, and by the way, they're called "county" fairs, not "town" fairs
in these parts. Unless you're talking "ro-day-o"; in that case, most every town
has one at some point during the summer.
Geoff Proctor
Helena MT

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4) USPS Team. Don't lose heart, The US has had a team in the Tour
EVERY year since 1986, and American's have won half of the last 20
Tour de France. Someone will pick up the slack. Don't be surprised if
it is Dodge (Daimler-Chrysler).

Isn't that 8 of the last 18? Which either ties the US or puts them one
ahead of Spain 🙂

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4) USPS Team. Don't lose heart, The US has had a team in the Tour
EVERY year since 1986, and American's have won half of the last 20
Tour de France. Someone will pick up the slack. Don't be surprised if
it is Dodge (Daimler-Chrysler).

Isn't that 8 of the last 18? Which either ties the US or puts them one
ahead of Spain 🙂

And while we are at it, Tiger, why didn't you point out the when referenced in the plural, Tour de France is a total no-no.

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4) USPS Team. Don't lose heart, The US has had a team in the Tour
EVERY year since 1986, and American's have won half of the last 20
Tour de France. Someone will pick up the slack. Don't be surprised if
it is Dodge (Daimler-Chrysler).

Isn't that 8 of the last 18? Which either ties the US or puts them one
ahead of Spain 🙂

1969 - Eddy Merckx #1 - Belgium #1
1970 - Eddy Merckx #2 - Belgium #2
1971 - Eddy Merckx #3 - Belgium #3
1972 - Eddy Merckx #4 - Belgium #4
1973 - Luis Ocaña #1 - Spain #1
1974 - Eddy Merckx #5 - Belgium #5
1975 - Bernard Thevenet #1 - France #1
1976 - Lucien Van Impe #1 - Belgium #6
1977 - Bernard Thevenet #2 - France #2
1978 - Bernard Hinault #1 - France #3
1979 - Bernard Hinault #2 - France #4
1980 - Joop Zoetemelk #1 - Netherlands #1
1981 - Bernard Hinault #3 - France #5
1982 - Bernard Hinault #4 - France #6
1983 - Laurent Fignon #1 - France #7
1984 - Laurent Fignon #2 - France #8
1985 - Bernard Hinault #5 - France #9
1986 - Greg LeMond #1 - USA #1
1987 - Stephen Roche #1 - Ireland #1
1988 - Pedro Delgado #1 - Spain #2
1989 - Greg Lemond #2 - USA #2
1990 - Greg Lemond #3 - USA #3
1991 - Miguel Indurain #1 - Spain #3
1992 - Miguel Indurain #2 - Spain #4
1993 - Miguel Indurain #3 - Spain #5
1994 - Miguel Indurain #4 - Spain #6
1995 - Miguel Indurain #5 - Spain #7
1996 - Bjarne Riis #1 - Denmark #1
1997 - Jan Ullrich #1 - Germany #1
1998 - Marco Pantani #1 - Italy #1
1999 - Lance Armstrong #1 - USA #4
2000 - Lance Armstrong #2 - USA #5
2001 - Lance Armstrong #3 - USA #6
2002 - Lance Armstrong #4 - USA #7
2003 - Lance Armstrong #5 - USA #8

So ... In the last 35 years:

France - 9 wins
USA - 8 wins
Spain - 7 wins
Belgium - 6 wins
Netherlands - 1 win
Denmark - 1 win
Germany - 1 win
Italy - 1 win
Ireland - 1 win

In the last 15 years:

USA - 7 wins
Spain - 5 wins
Denmark - 1 win
Germany - 1 win
Italy - 1 win

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2) Dario Pieri Mr Krispy Kreme was second in P-R in 2003, 17 kilos
heavier this year, and will be unemployed by 2005.

Pieri was already a fattie, I don't see how he could be that much (17
kg!) fatter this year and still be a pro. But he was a bit tubbier in
2004.

The good thing about being a fattie is that losing weight is a
relatively easier way to get better. It worked for Roger Hammond.

-Amit

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4) USPS Team. Don't lose heart, The US has had a team in the Tour
EVERY year since 1986, and American's have won half of the last 20
Tour de France. Someone will pick up the slack. Don't be surprised if
it is Dodge (Daimler-Chrysler).

If yer right, Dodge will take over sponsorship after Postal and the
average speed of the euro peleton will increase another 2% from
domestiques taking breaks to "do all the work getting water bottles"
in the caravan. The draft back there behind the Hemis will be
enormous. Guys will drop back before they launch an attack. Team
Dodge will go bankrupt in one year from filling the tanks of the Hemis
in the team "cars", unless they happen to be Mercedes wagons.