Forbes Top paid athletes

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1. Tiger Woods $80.0 million - Golf
Michael Schumacher $80.0 million - F1

2. Peyton Manning $42.0 million - NFL

3. Michael Jordan $35.0 million - retired

4. Shaquille O'Neal $32.0 million - NBA

5. Kevin Garnett $30.0 million - NBA

6. David Beckham $28.0 million- Soccer Andre Agassi
$28.0 million - Tennis

7. Kobe Bryant $26.0 million - NBA Alex Rodriguez $26.0
million - MLB Grant Hill $26.0 million - NBA

8. Barry Bonds $23.0 million - MLB Derek Jeter $23.0
million - MLB

9. Oscar De La Hoya $22.0 million - Boxing
Manny Ramirez $22.0 million - MLB

10. LeBron James $21.0 million - NBA (rookie)

11. Dale Earnhardt Jr. $20.0 million - NASCAR Phil
Mickelson $20.0 million - Golf Vince Carter $20.0
million - NFL Correction it is the Vince

Carter from the NBA

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Arnold Palmer $20.0 million - Golf

The list was actually the top twenty but I put all the
ties together, in contrast the top two female athletes are
Serena and Venus Williams at

$9.5M

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and $8.5M respectively, Forbes only published the Top 5
Females in the

list

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I was looking at and ALL 5 were from Tennis Dave

where does Lance place on that list. I hope he's in
the top 40.

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1. Tiger Woods $80.0 million - Golf
Michael Schumacher $80.0 million - F1

2. Peyton Manning $42.0 million - NFL

3. Michael Jordan $35.0 million - retired

4. Shaquille O'Neal $32.0 million - NBA

5. Kevin Garnett $30.0 million - NBA

6. David Beckham $28.0 million- Soccer Andre Agassi
$28.0 million - Tennis

7. Kobe Bryant $26.0 million - NBA Alex Rodriguez
$26.0 million - MLB Grant Hill $26.0 million - NBA

8. Barry Bonds $23.0 million - MLB Derek Jeter $23.0
million - MLB

9. Oscar De La Hoya $22.0 million - Boxing
Manny Ramirez $22.0 million - MLB

10. LeBron James $21.0 million - NBA (rookie)

11. Dale Earnhardt Jr. $20.0 million - NASCAR Phil
Mickelson $20.0 million - Golf Vince Carter $20.0
million - NFL Correction it is the Vince

Carter from the NBA

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Arnold Palmer $20.0 million - Golf

The list was actually the top twenty but I put all the
ties together, in contrast the top two female athletes
are Serena and Venus Williams at

$9.5M

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and $8.5M respectively, Forbes only published the Top 5
Females in the

list

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I was looking at and ALL 5 were from Tennis Dave

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where does Lance place on that list. I hope he's in
the top 40.

The list I saw only went to the top 20. Also I have always
said that Schumacher is the highest paid athlete based
purely on salary or money earned from winnings as with Tiger
Woods. Ferrari pays Schumacher $40M a year making him the
highest paid athlete. Tiger's money comes mostly from
endorsements

Dave

Dave H said:

1. Tiger Woods $80.0 million - Golf
Michael Schumacher $80.0 million - F1

2. Peyton Manning $42.0 million - NFL

3. Michael Jordan $35.0 million - retired

4. Shaquille O'Neal $32.0 million - NBA

5. Kevin Garnett $30.0 million - NBA

6. David Beckham $28.0 million- Soccer Andre Agassi $28.0
million - Tennis

7. Kobe Bryant $26.0 million - NBA Alex Rodriguez $26.0
million - MLB Grant Hill $26.0 million - NBA

8. Barry Bonds $23.0 million - MLB Derek Jeter $23.0
million - MLB

9. Oscar De La Hoya $22.0 million - Boxing
Manny Ramirez $22.0 million - MLB

10. LeBron James $21.0 million - NBA (rookie)

11. Dale Earnhardt Jr. $20.0 million - NASCAR
Phil Mickelson $20.0 million - Golf
Vince Carter $20.0 million - NFL
Arnold Palmer $20.0 million - Golf

The list was actually the top twenty but I put all the ties
together,

Looks like a very US-biased list. I am quite sure that
Motorcycling superchampion Valentino Rossi makes more than
that. Which kind of US$/Euro Exchange rate are they using?

What surprises me most is the number of golf players. Is it
that big in the USA? In continental Europe noone gives a
damn about that. I'm sure most Europeans don't even consider
it a sport. IMHO it should stay in the same league as chess
or bridge.

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where does Lance place on that list. I hope he's in the
top 40.

The list I saw only went to the top 20. Also I have always
said that Schumacher is the highest paid athlete based
purely on salary or money earned from winnings as with
Tiger Woods. Ferrari pays Schumacher $40M a year making
him the highest paid athlete. Tiger's money comes mostly
from endorsements

Dave

I doubt very seriously that Tiger has earned $80 million
from winnings in his career. No way he makes that from
winnings in a single year. No way. That list HAS to be
including endorsements.

Some of those other figures you list, Alex Rodriquez for
example, that is approx what his purported annual salary is
as he's the top-salaried player in MLB.

What's that about?

Forbes is pretty generous, calling Arnold an athlete. Maybe
he walked at Augusta while failing to make the cut for the
20-something-th year in a row, and then retiring from golf.
(I like Arnie, but I think the classification probably
doesn't fit the man any longer.)

They show a list of the top 50 athletes by earnings.

Lance Armstrong is #24 at $19.2 million. There are no other
cyclists. 50th place is still at $15.0 million.

Here is a statement about how the list was assembled:
/Earnings estimates are for June 2003 to June 2004. Totals
include salaries, bonuses, prize money, endorsements and
appearance fees.

/If I'm not mistaken, prize money earned by cyclists in the
grand tours is usually shared among the team members and
employees (at least so someone said about Lance one year).
So, maybe some of the categories considered aren't really
ending up in the athletes' pockets, but you have to spend
money to make money....

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where does Lance place on that list. I hope he's in
the top 40.

The list I saw only went to the top 20. Also I have
always said that Schumacher is the highest paid athlete
based purely on salary or money earned from winnings as
with Tiger Woods. Ferrari pays Schumacher $40M a year
making him the highest paid athlete. Tiger's money comes
mostly

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endorsements

Dave

I doubt very seriously that Tiger has earned $80 million
from winnings in his career. No way he makes that from
winnings in a single year. No way. That list HAS to be
including endorsements.

Some of those other figures you list, Alex Rodriquez for
example, that is approx what his purported annual salary
is as he's the top-salaried player in MLB.

Uhhh did you read what I wrote? Dave

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What surprises me most is the number of golf players. Is
it that big in the USA? In continental Europe noone gives
a damn about that. I'm sure most Europeans don't even
consider it a sport. IMHO it should stay in the same
league as chess or bridge.

As a nation of Fatties naturally we prefer it. It's also a
social thing for people in business. There are golf stores
in airports that show video replays of golf continuously
... Recently our sports press has been covering the golf US
Open heavily.

Apparently the golfers complained that the course conditions
were too hard and scolded the promoters and even yelled at
the groundskeepers. I don't golf, so I can't explain the
details, but I assume this is like when the peleton stops
and neutralizes the descent of the Kemmelberg due to wet
unsafe conditions. Presumably, the golfers similarly felt
they were in grave physical danger.

In article <40d68ac3$1@darkstar>, Benjamin Weiner

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Davide Tosi said:

What surprises me most is the number of golf players. Is
it that big in the USA? In continental Europe noone
gives a damn about that. I'm sure most Europeans don't
even consider it a sport. IMHO it should stay in the
same league as chess or bridge.

Euros and Asians usually offer star players more money to
play in their tournaments than the American tournaments can,
or will offer.

-WG

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Davide Tosi said:

What surprises me most is the number of golf players.
Is it that big in the USA? In continental Europe noone
gives a damn about that. I'm sure most Europeans don't
even consider it a sport. IMHO it should stay in the
same league as chess or bridge.

Euros and Asians usually offer star players more money to
play in their tournaments than the American tournaments
can, or will offer.

Which part of Europe? I can assure you that in the main
cluster of Europe (Benelux, France, Germany, Italy and
other Alpine nations) golf is not big at all. It does not
have TV airplay except for a few hours nighttime on minor
satellite channels, people don't talk about it, even
businessmen. There are a few people that play it, but I
think that also most of them don't know any yankee player
apart from Tiger. Here there are no golf based advertising
and no big companies that I know of ever targeted golf
watching public for a local campaign. So, if it's true that
Euro organizers pay more money to golf stars than yankee
ones, I wonder where does that money come from. Of course,
in East Europe things are even worst off, since they don't
even have golf clubs. All this is supported by the fact
that there are no big Euro players except for the Brits and
a few Spaniards or Swedes. Usually when a sport is popular
among the population in a certain place, some top
contenders tend to emerge from there.

Of course, if for Europe you mean the British islands and a
couple other places (Spain, Sweden) then the problem to
discuss is not how big is golf in Europe but what is the
Euro culture, since those countries are the farthest from
the "MittelEuropa" culture.