For the "Yeah, right" file

Robert Chung <[email hidden]> wrote:
:> "Oops! Murphy's Law costs Ullrich German victory"
:>
:> "'We don't have measurements to confirm this, but we can estimate
:> that this mistake caused a 20 Watt loss'" [said the manufacturer of
:> the wheel in question].
:>
:> http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech.php?id=tech/2005/news/08-27

Too damn much science for normal humans to deal with...

🙂

Robert Chung said:

"Oops! Murphy's Law costs Ullrich German victory"

"'We don't have measurements to confirm this, but we can estimate that
this mistake caused a 20 Watt loss'" [said the manufacturer of the wheel
in question].

http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech.php?id=tech/2005/news/08-27

"Yeah, right."

I couldn't help but notice Jan saying something to the effect of "I was
ill", "It would have been nice to win" and "Second is still pretty good."

Truly, the heart of a champion.

In article <[email hidden]>, "Robert Chung" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

"Oops! Murphy's Law costs Ullrich German victory"

"'We don't have measurements to confirm this, but we can estimate that
this mistake caused a 20 Watt loss'" [said the manufacturer of the wheel
in question].

http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech.php?id=tech/2005/news/08-27

I think that at least 20 Watts were lost here:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2005/vuelta05/index.php?id=vuelta052/2_14g

--
tanx,
Howard

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Howard Kveck said:

I think that at least 20 Watts were lost here:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2005/vuelta05/index.php?id=vuelta052/2_14g

Discovery Channel team = Shimano?

Dude is lucky to be in one piece to contemplate "the reason for his
loss of power"..

Howard Kveck said:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2005/vuelta05/index.php?id=vuelta052/2_14g

Jesus, he lost his head! No wonder he had to stop.

So much for the superior pinch bolt design. He even pulled the drive
side completely out of the BB. Was this a mechanical/materials failure
or was is a shoddy installation?

Neither. Pedal cleat retention was set too tight.
/s

In article <[email hidden]>,

Quoted message said:

Howard Kveck said:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2005/vuelta05/index.php?id=vuelta052/2_14g

Jesus, he lost his head! No wonder he had to stop.

Helmet rule violation?

--
tanx,
Howard

Butter is love.

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In article <[email hidden]>,

amakyonin said:

So much for the superior pinch bolt design. He even pulled the drive
side completely out of the BB. Was this a mechanical/materials failure
or was is a shoddy installation?

Well, since the crank spindle (or axle, if you prefer) is permanently
attached to the right crank arm, once the left arm came off, the whole assembly
could slide right out of the bb. Why'd the left arm come loose? It's hard to
know without inside info. I'd tend to lean toward mechanic error, though. Bolts
left loose, perhaps.

--
tanx,
Howard

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Teacher:

"A double negative is equivalent to a positive, but a double positive is
never equivalent to a negative."

Student:

"Yeah, right."

Sheldon "All Generalizations Are False" Brown
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Sheldon Brown said:

Teacher:

"A double negative is equivalent to a positive, but a double positive is
never equivalent to a negative."

Student:

"Yeah, right."

Sheldon "All Generalizations Are False" Brown
+--------------------------------------------+
| If you haven't yet discovered the novels |
| of Neal Stephenson, don't wait! |
| Start with Snow Crash or Quicksilver |
+--------------------------------------------+
Harris Cyclery, West Newton, Massachusetts
Phone 617-244-9772 FAX 617-244-1041
http://harriscyclery.com
Hard-to-find parts shipped Worldwide
http://captainbike.com http://sheldonbrown.com

Dear Sheldon,

I call and raise you one.

And yes I said yes I will yes.

J. Joyce

In article <[email hidden]>,

Sheldon Brown said:

Teacher:

"A double negative is equivalent to a positive, but a double positive is
never equivalent to a negative."

Student:

"Yeah, right."

Sheldon "All Generalizations Are False" Brown

Hmm, doesn't this fall into the "Two wrongs don't make a right, but three
lefts do" category?

--
tanx,
Howard

Butter is love.

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Sheldon Brown said:

Teacher:

"A double negative is equivalent to a positive, but a double positive is
never equivalent to a negative."

Student:

"Yeah, right."

Sheldon "All Generalizations Are False" Brown

FYI, there's actually a real story here, and not a simply a
student-teacher urban legend. The actual punch line is "Yeah, yeah";
the "teacher" was the English philopher of language J. L. Ausin, and
the "student" was the (recently) late lamented philosopher and
wise-cracker Sidney Morgenbesser. All of this is somewhat corroborated
at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidney_Morgenbesser

and some of the links therein

John "took a seminar with Sidney and knows a guy who witnessed the
famous wise crack" Albin