Footwear for winter running?

Micheal Artindale said:

In order to get ready for my first triathlon this July, I plan on
doing som running this winter.

Problem is, here, the winters are cold, snowy, and icy.

I was first thinking of some shoes with cleats, but they would not be
wam enough. do they make boots that would be good for running, yet
not slide on ice?

I've never heard of a running "boot". Can't help but feel that running in
boots would be bad for your knees/feet/tendons. If it's grip you're after,
this might help.

http://www.skyrunner.com/screwshoe.htm

Tim

Micheal Artindale said:

In order to get ready for my first triathlon this July, I plan on
doing som running this winter.

Problem is, here, the winters are cold, snowy, and icy.

I was first thinking of some shoes with cleats, but they would not be
wam enough. do they make boots that would be good for running, yet
not slide on ice?

I've never heard of a running "boot". Can't help but feel that running in
boots would be bad for your knees/feet/tendons. If it's grip you're after,
this might help.

http://www.skyrunner.com/screwshoe.htm

Tim

I run through the winters with my normal running shoes and only miss a
few days per season, but you might be further north with worse weather.
Hardly anyone around here shovels there sidewalks anymore but the
streets are usually passable.
I'm leery of ice, one slip and fall can be pretty damaging, but running
on light snow is not a big problem for me. I've looked at cleats but
they don't seem like they'd be too good on the intermittent spots of
pavement. For me snow has not been a big hindrance, but I don't go all
out on slick pavement
Eric

Micheal Artindale said:

In order to get ready for my first triathlon this July, I plan on doing som
running this winter.

Problem is, here, the winters are cold, snowy, and icy.

I was first thinking of some shoes with cleats, but they would not be wam
enough. do they make boots that would be good for running, yet not slide on
ice?

Thanks

Micheal

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I run through the winters with my normal running shoes and only miss a
few days per season, but you might be further north with worse weather.
Hardly anyone around here shovels there sidewalks anymore but the
streets are usually passable.
I'm leery of ice, one slip and fall can be pretty damaging, but running
on light snow is not a big problem for me. I've looked at cleats but
they don't seem like they'd be too good on the intermittent spots of
pavement. For me snow has not been a big hindrance, but I don't go all
out on slick pavement

I live in Northern Ontario, Canada. Here they do plough the roads and
sidwalks, however, sometimes, even walking is a challenge.

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Eric

Micheal Artindale said:

In order to get ready for my first triathlon this July, I plan on doing

som

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running this winter.

Problem is, here, the winters are cold, snowy, and icy.

I was first thinking of some shoes with cleats, but they would not be

wam

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enough. do they make boots that would be good for running, yet not slide

on

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ice?

Thanks

Micheal

well, so much for my thoughts 🙂
In many ways wish I was living up there with you. I'm in Cincinnati. One
of my students is from Ontario and is not real happy living here for
school. I asked him why he prefers Ontario and he replied "We got beer,
hockey, and clean air, what else matters?"
Eric

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I run through the winters with my normal running shoes and only miss a
few days per season, but you might be further north with worse weather.
Hardly anyone around here shovels there sidewalks anymore but the
streets are usually passable.
I'm leery of ice, one slip and fall can be pretty damaging, but running
on light snow is not a big problem for me. I've looked at cleats but
they don't seem like they'd be too good on the intermittent spots of
pavement. For me snow has not been a big hindrance, but I don't go all
out on slick pavement

I live in Northern Ontario, Canada. Here they do plough the roads and
sidwalks, however, sometimes, even walking is a challenge.

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Eric

Micheal Artindale said:

In order to get ready for my first triathlon this July, I plan on doing

som

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

running this winter.

Problem is, here, the winters are cold, snowy, and icy.

I was first thinking of some shoes with cleats, but they would not be

wam

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Quoted message said:

enough. do they make boots that would be good for running, yet not slide

on

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

ice?

Thanks

Micheal

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well, so much for my thoughts 🙂
In many ways wish I was living up there with you. I'm in Cincinnati. One
of my students is from Ontario and is not real happy living here for
school. I asked him why he prefers Ontario and he replied "We got beer,
hockey, and clean air, what else matters?"

ROTFLMAO

Ok, our "light" beer is your regular beer. 5.5% alcohol is our regular beer.

In Ontario, we have 2 hockey teams. And everyone knows either wont win the
cup.

You have to head north of me to get "clean air", although, we may get about
10 days of smog here.

Micheal

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Eric

Micheal Artindale said:

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I run through the winters with my normal running shoes and only miss a
few days per season, but you might be further north with worse weather.
Hardly anyone around here shovels there sidewalks anymore but the
streets are usually passable.
I'm leery of ice, one slip and fall can be pretty damaging, but running
on light snow is not a big problem for me. I've looked at cleats but
they don't seem like they'd be too good on the intermittent spots of
pavement. For me snow has not been a big hindrance, but I don't go all
out on slick pavement

I live in Northern Ontario, Canada. Here they do plough the roads and
sidwalks, however, sometimes, even walking is a challenge.

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Eric

Micheal Artindale wrote:

>In order to get ready for my first triathlon this July, I plan on doing

som

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>running this winter.
>
>Problem is, here, the winters are cold, snowy, and icy.
>
>I was first thinking of some shoes with cleats, but they would not be

wam

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>enough. do they make boots that would be good for running, yet not

slide

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on

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>ice?
>
>Thanks
>
>Micheal
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>

Micheal Artindale said:

In order to get ready for my first triathlon this July, I plan on doing som
running this winter.

Problem is, here, the winters are cold, snowy, and icy.

I was first thinking of some shoes with cleats, but they would not be wam
enough. do they make boots that would be good for running, yet not slide on
ice?

Thanks

Micheal

Tim already mentioned screw shoes.

There's also studded icebug shoes (haven't used) that look like they
might work well and I know people who like them. Discussion and links here:
http://tinyurl.com/a356h

Stabil-icers are like a strap-on screw shoe. I haven't used them yet
(bought them last week), but the tread on my trail shoes is such that
it's difficult to put screws in so am trying this approach. (also
looking for shoes that fit my biomechanics that I can use with screws)

You may also look at running shoes (probably trail shoes) that have
softer outsoles. They tend to cling to rock and ice better than those
with harder soles, esp. if it's cold. The slipperiest ice seems to be
under warmer temperatures.

Things that haven't worked for me (Alaska, mostly on trails now, but
used to run roads, including a tri at +1F as my 1st race): My experience
is that yak trax are ok on hard-packed snow, but the coils don't bite
into ice - in fact they elevate the rest of your shoe above it so you
have even less traction. Ice joggers are also strap-on devices, but
traction like studs on car, and aren't too bad for icy roads, but I've
found on lumpy ice of trails, they can't always reach the surface. This
is why I'm trying screw-like devices this year. Beware that they do seem
to alter stride somewhat for some people.

Temperature-wise, I'll just wear regular running shoes down to about 0F.
If it's colder than that for long runs, I hope we have enough snow to
snowshoe run (or xc ski), then I use a neoprene overbootie (mine's made
for mtn bikers / cyclists, but there are some designed for ss runners).
For short runs (less than 60 min) below 0F, I can usually get by with my
regular trail shoes (Brooks Trespass, only ones that work for me
biomechanically), which have a decent grip for snow. I am looking at
shoes with denser mesh (Brooks Cascadia or Adrenaline ASR) than my
very-breezy summer shoes, but I have problems with shoe fit /
biomechanics, so jury is out on those.

Use Smartwool socks. I use heavier ones in colder weather. Will probably
look at using liner sock in wetter conditions.

I don't think you want to look at boots - too rigid for running. But you
might find an neoprene overbootie or toe cap cover that works. Lots of
people run year round in colder environments, and more amenities are
becoming available.

Dot

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"If we reach all our goals, we are not setting them high enough."
- Matt Carpenter

Micheal Artindale said:

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I run through the winters with my normal running shoes and only miss a
few days per season, but you might be further north with worse weather.
Hardly anyone around here shovels there sidewalks anymore but the
streets are usually passable.
I'm leery of ice, one slip and fall can be pretty damaging, but running
on light snow is not a big problem for me. I've looked at cleats but
they don't seem like they'd be too good on the intermittent spots of
pavement. For me snow has not been a big hindrance, but I don't go all
out on slick pavement

I live in Northern Ontario, Canada. Here they do plough the roads and
sidwalks, however, sometimes, even walking is a challenge.

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Eric

Hi Eric,

I live on the south shore of Lake Superior on Michigan's Keweenaw
Peninsula. We average 200+ inches (500+ cm) of snow during our winter
season. I don't run through the winter anymore (I cross-country ski
instead), but I used to run every day all winter long. I used regular
running shoes and didn't have any trouble.

I guess I wore fairly thick socks, and ran more upright on icy
stretches. When you hit an icy patch, try to push up, not off, and you
shouldn't slip much.

My runs in triathlons sucked this year and I'm flirting with the idea of
maintaining some kind of running base this winter. Skiing is great for
fitness and it's easy on the joints, so in that sense it's good for me.
Maybe what I need to do is, rather than run during the winter, make a
concentrated effort to get back into running shape early in the spring.
Right now, I typically ski until the middle of April, then start
running.

How's the skiing up by you?

Bob

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Micheal Artindale said:

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I run through the winters with my normal running shoes and only miss a
few days per season, but you might be further north with worse weather.
Hardly anyone around here shovels there sidewalks anymore but the
streets are usually passable.
I'm leery of ice, one slip and fall can be pretty damaging, but running
on light snow is not a big problem for me. I've looked at cleats but
they don't seem like they'd be too good on the intermittent spots of
pavement. For me snow has not been a big hindrance, but I don't go all
out on slick pavement

I live in Northern Ontario, Canada. Here they do plough the roads and
sidwalks, however, sometimes, even walking is a challenge.

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Eric

Hi Eric,

I live on the south shore of Lake Superior on Michigan's Keweenaw
Peninsula. We average 200+ inches (500+ cm) of snow during our winter
season. I don't run through the winter anymore (I cross-country ski
instead), but I used to run every day all winter long. I used regular
running shoes and didn't have any trouble.

I guess I wore fairly thick socks, and ran more upright on icy
stretches. When you hit an icy patch, try to push up, not off, and you
shouldn't slip much.

My runs in triathlons sucked this year and I'm flirting with the idea of
maintaining some kind of running base this winter. Skiing is great for
fitness and it's easy on the joints, so in that sense it's good for me.
Maybe what I need to do is, rather than run during the winter, make a
concentrated effort to get back into running shape early in the spring.
Right now, I typically ski until the middle of April, then start
running.

How's the skiing up by you?

XC skiing here is great. we have 2 local clubs that groom trails.

Since i dont like ice, i will likely wait and start running in the spring,
and days when the ices is not there.

Micheal

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Bob

I'm using one type of running shoes for whole year...this one:
http://www.olympikus.com/img/managerFiles/tb_colecao_modelo/fotoAmpliada_35.jpg
(or older models similar to this one)
I'm running about 170 km/month, changing shoes every 500km...and I have no
problems...
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Best regards
Sgt Pepper
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Quoted message said:

In order to get ready for my first triathlon this July, I plan on doing

som

Quoted message said:

running this winter.

Problem is, here, the winters are cold, snowy, and icy.

I was first thinking of some shoes with cleats, but they would not be wam
enough. do they make boots that would be good for running, yet not slide

on

Quoted message said:

ice?

Thanks

Micheal

10 days of smog? we get about 10 days out of every two weeks of smog in
summer.
I was in Montanan a few years ago, went running, and kept running, and
running, and running... wondered why all of a sudden I could breath so
well... as soon as I returned home my lungs started burning before two
miles.
Eric

Micheal Artindale said:

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well, so much for my thoughts 🙂
In many ways wish I was living up there with you. I'm in Cincinnati. One
of my students is from Ontario and is not real happy living here for
school. I asked him why he prefers Ontario and he replied "We got beer,
hockey, and clean air, what else matters?"

ROTFLMAO

Ok, our "light" beer is your regular beer. 5.5% alcohol is our regular beer.

In Ontario, we have 2 hockey teams. And everyone knows either wont win the
cup.

You have to head north of me to get "clean air", although, we may get about
10 days of smog here.

Micheal

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Eric

Micheal Artindale said:

"Eric" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>I run through the winters with my normal running shoes and only miss a
>few days per season, but you might be further north with worse weather.
>Hardly anyone around here shovels there sidewalks anymore but the
>streets are usually passable.
>I'm leery of ice, one slip and fall can be pretty damaging, but running
>on light snow is not a big problem for me. I've looked at cleats but
>they don't seem like they'd be too good on the intermittent spots of
>pavement. For me snow has not been a big hindrance, but I don't go all
>out on slick pavement

I live in Northern Ontario, Canada. Here they do plough the roads and
sidwalks, however, sometimes, even walking is a challenge.

>Eric
>
>Micheal Artindale wrote:
>
>
>>In order to get ready for my first triathlon this July, I plan on doing

som

>>running this winter.
>>
>>Problem is, here, the winters are cold, snowy, and icy.
>>
>>I was first thinking of some shoes with cleats, but they would not be

wam

>>enough. do they make boots that would be good for running, yet not

slide

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on

>>ice?
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Micheal
>>
>>

I'm still not back to 100% after a slip/fall on an icy patch two years ago
( Wisconsin here ). Gots to be careful with the snowy season out there...

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I'm using one type of running shoes for whole year...this one:
http://www.olympikus.com/img/managerFiles/tb_colecao_modelo/fotoAmpliada_35.jpg
(or older models similar to this one)
I'm running about 170 km/month, changing shoes every 500km...and I have no
problems...
÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷
Best regards
Sgt Pepper
÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷

"Micheal Artindale" <[email hidden]> pí¹e v diskusním
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Quoted message said:

In order to get ready for my first triathlon this July, I plan on doing

som

Quoted message said:

running this winter.

Problem is, here, the winters are cold, snowy, and icy.

I was first thinking of some shoes with cleats, but they would not be wam
enough. do they make boots that would be good for running, yet not slide

on

Quoted message said:

ice?

Thanks

Micheal

I'm still not back to 100% after a slip/fall on an icy patch two years ago
( Wisconsin here ). Gots to be careful with the snowy season out there...

"Sgt Pepper" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I'm using one type of running shoes for whole year...this one:
http://www.olympikus.com/img/managerFiles/tb_colecao_modelo/fotoAmpliada_35.jpg
(or older models similar to this one)
I'm running about 170 km/month, changing shoes every 500km...and I have no
problems...
÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷
Best regards
Sgt Pepper
÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷÷

"Micheal Artindale" <[email hidden]> pí¹e v diskusním
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Quoted message said:

In order to get ready for my first triathlon this July, I plan on doing

som

Quoted message said:

running this winter.

Problem is, here, the winters are cold, snowy, and icy.

I was first thinking of some shoes with cleats, but they would not be wam
enough. do they make boots that would be good for running, yet not slide

on

Quoted message said:

ice?

Thanks

Micheal