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Peter Clinch twisted the electrons to say:
> The double sided SPuDs (platform one side, clipless mech the other)
> might well be a Cunning Plan on such a machine though.

My experience of them has been no matter what sort of shoes you're
wearing (SPDs or ordinary) you always get the wrong side of the pedal on
the first attempt! <grins> I suspect it's just a case of it being more
memorable when it goes wrong ...

My grasshopper has them fitted, but only because I didn't use to commute
in my SPDs and change shoes at work. Since I'm now using the SPDs all
the time, I might change the pedals (though I'm not sure what to ATM).
--
These opinions might not even be mine ...
Let alone connected with my employer ...
 
Alistair Gunn wrote:
> Peter Clinch twisted the electrons to say:
>> The double sided SPuDs (platform one side, clipless mech the other)
>> might well be a Cunning Plan on such a machine though.
>
> My experience of them has been no matter what sort of shoes you're
> wearing (SPDs or ordinary) you always get the wrong side of the pedal
> on the first attempt! <grins> I suspect it's just a case of it
> being more memorable when it goes wrong ...
>
> My grasshopper has them fitted, but only because I didn't use to
> commute in my SPDs and change shoes at work. Since I'm now using the
> SPDs all the time, I might change the pedals (though I'm not sure
> what to ATM).

How about to the most poplular clipless model in the world: Shimano M520 ?

Easy to use, reliable, cheap....

http://search.ebay.co.uk/shimano-m520_W0QQfromZR40QQpqryZshimnaoQ20m520

~PB
 
in message <[email protected]>, Pete Biggs
('[email protected]') wrote:

> Alistair Gunn wrote:
>> Peter Clinch twisted the electrons to say:
>>> The double sided SPuDs (platform one side, clipless mech the other)
>>> might well be a Cunning Plan on such a machine though.
>>
>> My experience of them has been no matter what sort of shoes you're
>> wearing (SPDs or ordinary) you always get the wrong side of the pedal
>> on the first attempt! <grins> I suspect it's just a case of it
>> being more memorable when it goes wrong ...
>>
>> My grasshopper has them fitted, but only because I didn't use to
>> commute in my SPDs and change shoes at work. Since I'm now using the
>> SPDs all the time, I might change the pedals (though I'm not sure
>> what to ATM).
>
> How about to the most poplular clipless model in the world: Shimano M520
> ?
>
> Easy to use, reliable, cheap....
>
> http://search.ebay.co.uk/shimano-m520_W0QQfromZR40QQpqryZshimnaoQ20m520

.... don't shed dirt at all well, so better as commuting pedals than as
mountain bike pedals. Still, at 16 quid a pair, quite a bargain.

--
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in message <[email protected]>, POHB
('[email protected]') wrote:

> Ben C wrote:
>> Most people don't really pull up on the pedal anyway, except perhaps
>> when sprinting ferociously.
>
> I ride with SPDs but I don't think I ever pull up, they just make life
> easier by stopping my feet slipping around on the pedals over bumps and
> potholes. Having gotten used to them I feel kind of insecure without
> them, a bit like being in a car with no seat belt.

I certainly hate hitting a rocky descent without both feet securely clipped
in. Very insecure feeling.

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A: Like a spider, but nowhere near as intelligent.
 
Simon Brooke said the following on 12/12/2006 17:05:

> I certainly hate hitting a rocky descent without both feet securely clipped
> in. Very insecure feeling.

Yup. Although I ride flats on my MTB, before I got proper grippy shoes
and spiky pedals I just used my cleat-fitted "road" shoes. (This was
not long after I got back into MTB'ing - I used toe-straps in my
previous MTB life).

After a particularly undignified both-feet-bounced-off-the-pedals rocky
descent, that idea went right out the window! Fortunately no-one could
see my dignity disappearing into the dirt behind me :)

One day I'll go to SPuDs on my MTB, but not just yet...

--
Paul Boyd
http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/
 
Simon Brooke twisted the electrons to say:
> in message <[email protected]>, Pete Biggs
> ('[email protected]') wrote:
> > How about to the most poplular clipless model in the world: Shimano
> > M520?
> >
> > Easy to use, reliable, cheap....
> > http://search.ebay.co.uk/shimano-m520_W0QQfromZR40QQpqryZshimnaoQ20m520
> ... don't shed dirt at all well, so better as commuting pedals than as
> mountain bike pedals. Still, at 16 quid a pair, quite a bargain.

Shedding dirt isn't an issue for me particularly, since I can't see me
taking the Grasshopper down any really knarly off-road routes at any
point. That said I am considering EggBeaters as replacement pedals, but
that could just be because they look cool!
--
These opinions might not even be mine ...
Let alone connected with my employer ...
 
"Alistair Gunn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Peter Clinch twisted the electrons to say:
>> The double sided SPuDs (platform one side, clipless mech the other)
>> might well be a Cunning Plan on such a machine though.
>
> My experience of them has been no matter what sort of shoes you're
> wearing (SPDs or ordinary) you always get the wrong side of the pedal on
> the first attempt! <grins> I suspect it's just a case of it being more
> memorable when it goes wrong ...
>
> My grasshopper has them fitted, but only because I didn't use to commute
> in my SPDs and change shoes at work. Since I'm now using the SPDs all
> the time, I might change the pedals (though I'm not sure what to ATM).
> --
> These opinions might not even be mine ...
> Let alone connected with my employer ...

I fitted these this year for my touring bike. The idea was that at night I
could shed my bike shoes and wear sandals' trainers etc.

I never did! Well I did a couple of times but I find that cycling for some
4/5000 miles a year on SPD pedals I can't cope, mentally, with adjusting to
platform pedals in the evenings -- my feet keep flying off the pedals when
least expected. And fumbling with my feet to get the right side is a pain!

So I am back to the £16 basic SPD pedals and glad to be there! I still have
fond memories of my first two days of converting! 4 unexpected dismounts in
all ( one v embarrassing in front of a truckie and several "yooofs who fell
about lafing" -- after I fell gently sideways on day 2 as I stopped at
traffic lights!!!!!)

--
Trevor A Panther
In South Yorkshire,
England, United Kingdom.
www.tapan.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
 
Simon Brooke wrote:

>> How about to the most poplular clipless model in the world: Shimano
>> M520 ?
>>
>> Easy to use, reliable, cheap....
>>
>> http://search.ebay.co.uk/shimano-m520_W0QQfromZR40QQpqryZshimnaoQ20m520
>
> ... don't shed dirt at all well, so better as commuting pedals than as
> mountain bike pedals. Still, at 16 quid a pair, quite a bargain.

They shed dirt great compared to Look pedals. Not that I could imagine
mountain biking in Looks. But shoes end up muddy after a visit to frighten
the bunnies.

~PB
 
Simon Brooke wrote:
> I certainly hate hitting a rocky descent without both feet securely
> clipped in. Very insecure feeling.

On the other foot, I don't like being near deep drops or deep water /with/
my feet securely clipped in. Narrow towpaths and certain bridges are a bit
woooaaarrr.

~PB
 
"Pinky" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> I fitted these this year for my touring bike. The idea was that at night I
> could shed my bike shoes and wear sandals' trainers etc.
>
> I never did! Well I did a couple of times but I find that cycling for some
> 4/5000 miles a year on SPD pedals I can't cope, mentally, with adjusting
> to platform pedals in the evenings -- my feet keep flying off the pedals
> when least expected. And fumbling with my feet to get the right side is a
> pain!
>
> So I am back to the £16 basic SPD pedals and glad to be there! I still
> have fond memories of my first two days of converting! 4 unexpected
> dismounts in all ( one v embarrassing in front of a truckie and several
> "yooofs who fell about lafing" -- after I fell gently sideways on day 2 as
> I stopped at traffic lights!!!!!)
>

Since changing over to clipless pedals (Look) a few years ago now, I've
rarely been on a bike that has 'normal' pedals on it. The odd time I have
has felt seriously wierd! Forgot that I can't pull a pedal up but have to
push. Strange bringing the foot up as when pulling on a pedal only to find
air :) I can't get on with spds, preferring Look pedals. I find that the
small area of contact provided by spd means I have difficultly clipping in
and travelling any distance, the small contact area gives me pain in the
sole of my foot. Give me Look pedals & I'm a happy bunny.
 
Alistair Gunn wrote:

> Shedding dirt isn't an issue for me particularly, since I can't see me
> taking the Grasshopper down any really knarly off-road routes at any
> point. That said I am considering EggBeaters as replacement pedals, but
> that could just be because they look cool!

I use Time ATACs. They will (allegedly) do real cack better than SPuDs
but I like them as there's more positive engagement, less problems from
cleat wear related unintentional release and more float (exec. summary,
they just seem to work better).
They don't look as cool as eggbeaters but are, I assume, /slightly/
better for the odd foray in conventional shoes.

Pete.
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net [email protected] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/
 
in message <[email protected]>, Peter Clinch
('[email protected]') wrote:

> Alistair Gunn wrote:
>
>> Shedding dirt isn't an issue for me particularly, since I can't see me
>> taking the Grasshopper down any really knarly off-road routes at any
>> point. That said I am considering EggBeaters as replacement pedals, but
>> that could just be because they look cool!
>
> I use Time ATACs. They will (allegedly) do real cack better than SPuDs

So do I (on my mountain bikes), and they do. I'm thinking of fitting them
to my winter road bike, as well, so as to have fewer different pairs of
shoes.

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in message <[email protected]>, Paul Boyd
('usenet.dont.work@plusnet') wrote:

> Simon Brooke said the following on 12/12/2006 17:05:
>
>> I certainly hate hitting a rocky descent without both feet securely
>> clipped in. Very insecure feeling.
>
> Yup. Although I ride flats on my MTB, before I got proper grippy shoes
> and spiky pedals I just used my cleat-fitted "road" shoes. (This was
> not long after I got back into MTB'ing - I used toe-straps in my
> previous MTB life).
>
> After a particularly undignified both-feet-bounced-off-the-pedals rocky
> descent, that idea went right out the window! Fortunately no-one could
> see my dignity disappearing into the dirt behind me :)
>
> One day I'll go to SPuDs on my MTB, but not just yet...

Do. They make much more difference on a mountain bike, where a foot
slipping of a pedal can mean injury, than on a road bike. The flats with
little pegs in that many people who don't like the idea of cleats seem to
use seem designed to cause injury to the shins.

--
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Simon Brooke said the following on 13/12/2006 14:06:

> The flats with
> little pegs in that many people who don't like the idea of cleats seem to
> use seem designed to cause injury to the shins.

....and then they wear shin-guards partly to protect against that. I did
actually order some SPDs at the same time as the bike, but it was from
SJSC who basically CBA to do anything about it. So I just stuck an old
pair of toe-straps on, then managed to break a strap in an, er,
unscheduled dismount, so stuck with flats.

I'll be on SPDs soon. I'm quite happy with them on my road bike!

--
Paul Boyd
http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/
 
In article <[email protected]>
Simon Brooke <[email protected]> wrote:
<snip>
> The flats with
> little pegs in that many people who don't like the idea of cleats seem to
> use seem designed to cause injury to the shins.
>
They are really grippy though and haven't damaged me yet, although I
must admit my riding is much more moderate than it used to be.
 
Simon Brooke wrote:
> Do. They make much more difference on a mountain bike, where a foot
> slipping of a pedal can mean injury, than on a road bike. The flats with
> little pegs in that many people who don't like the idea of cleats seem to
> use seem designed to cause injury to the shins.

I've think I've had no more flat-pedal-to-shin incidents than
falling-over-while-clipped-in ones. The former hurt more, the latter are
more embarrassing -- I'm undecided as to which is worse. :)

Anthony
 
On 13/12/2006 17:15, Anthony Jones said,

> I've think I've had no more flat-pedal-to-shin incidents than
> falling-over-while-clipped-in ones. The former hurt more, the latter are
> more embarrassing -- I'm undecided as to which is worse. :)

No-one can see your pain, but they can see your embarrassment :)

Anyway, I've just ordered some Time Atac pedals for my MTB, so a whole
new learning curve is ahead of me. SPDs on one bike, Time on t'other -
should be fun!

--
Paul Boyd
http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/
 
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