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  1. (Food) Police Corruption Scandal

    By Jeff Stier, Esq.

    Nutrition activists like the Center for Science in the Public Interest
    are scaring Americans away from technology that could help us lose
    weight.

    There is plenty of blame to go around for America's growing obesity
    crisis. Responsible or not, fast food, sodas in schools, and even
    SpongeBob Squarepants (see http://cspinet.org/new/200311101.html) have
    all come under attack. But one villain has gotten off scot-free. Until
    today. By scaring consumers about "unnatural products," "processed
    food," and "artificial additives," the food police, led by Michael
    Jacobson's Center for Science in the Public Interest (CSPI), are guilty
    of interfering with American's effort to battle the bulge.

    Some background: The federal government's recently published dietary
    guidelines (see http://www.healthierus.gov/dietaryguidelines/) provide
    a science-based approach to healthy eating. But while the guidelines
    are good, they are a radical departure from how most Americans eat
    today, and for the vast majority of obese Americans, willpower,
    discipline, and guilt only go so far. For those most at risk, the "eat
    only good foods" approach doesn't work. People need help to bridge the
    large gap between how they _are_ eating and how they _should be_
    eating, especially with respect to the number of calories they consume.
    Food technology, while certainly not the only solution, is one
    important tool to help us get there.

    Yet the activists fight scientific advances that could provide
    appealing lower-calorie options, preferring to wag their fingers at us
    until we change our eating behavior. They told us saccharin caused
    cancer, for instance, and they made a big joke out of the promising fat
    substitute, Olestra (see:
    http://www.acsh.org/healthissues/newsID.583/healthissue_detail.asp).
    Yet the artificial sweeteners and fat substitutes on the market are
    perfectly safe. And the food police hype hypothetical threats at the
    expense of our effort to combat the real threat of obesity. Worse yet,
    the predictable opposition to each new technology has a chilling effect
    on the development of new products that can make food taste good with
    fewer calories.

    While consumption habits vary, imagine that a typical overweight person
    drinks a 12-ounce can of cola a day. At 155 calories, that adds up to
    56,575 calories a year. While it would be nice to replace the soda with
    a more nutritious beverage, or with zero-calorie water, that is too big
    a lifestyle adjustment for some people to make (at least at first). But
    if one replaced full-calorie soda with a diet soda (while maintaining
    the same activity level), that modest change alone would result in a
    loss of 16.2 pounds in just one year. Similar losses would take place
    if fat replacers such as Olestra and Z-Trim were made more available as
    well.

    Weight-loss aids like these will help people take small steps, rather
    than demanding they take large leaps. This initial success at weight
    loss may also motivate people to commit to an exercise program. Yet the
    products of food technology, both products that exist and ones in the
    pipeline, are demonized by those who are supposedly promoting the
    public interest.

    They're contributing to the health problems they purport to combat.
    Isn't it time we held them accountable?

    Jeff Stier, Esq., is an associate director of the American Council on
    Science and Health.

    This information was found online at:
    http://www.acsh.org/factsfears/newsID.538/news_detail.asp

  2. (top posting only due to long post...)

    Yes, the food police should shut up when it comes to deadly food
    additives.

    After all, dead people are really skinny aren't they? ;-)

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Bob (this one) said:

    (Food) Police Corruption Scandal

    By Jeff Stier, Esq.

    Nutrition activists like the Center for Science in the Public Interest
    are scaring Americans away from technology that could help us lose
    weight.

    There is plenty of blame to go around for America's growing obesity
    crisis. Responsible or not, fast food, sodas in schools, and even
    SpongeBob Squarepants (see http://cspinet.org/new/200311101.html) have
    all come under attack. But one villain has gotten off scot-free. Until
    today. By scaring consumers about "unnatural products," "processed
    food," and "artificial additives," the food police, led by Michael
    Jacobson's Center for Science in the Public Interest (CSPI), are guilty
    of interfering with American's effort to battle the bulge.

    Some background: The federal government's recently published dietary
    guidelines (see http://www.healthierus.gov/dietaryguidelines/) provide
    a science-based approach to healthy eating. But while the guidelines
    are good, they are a radical departure from how most Americans eat
    today, and for the vast majority of obese Americans, willpower,
    discipline, and guilt only go so far. For those most at risk, the "eat
    only good foods" approach doesn't work. People need help to bridge the
    large gap between how they _are_ eating and how they _should be_
    eating, especially with respect to the number of calories they consume.
    Food technology, while certainly not the only solution, is one
    important tool to help us get there.

    Yet the activists fight scientific advances that could provide
    appealing lower-calorie options, preferring to wag their fingers at us
    until we change our eating behavior. They told us saccharin caused
    cancer, for instance, and they made a big joke out of the promising fat
    substitute, Olestra (see:
    http://www.acsh.org/healthissues/newsID.583/healthissue_detail.asp).
    Yet the artificial sweeteners and fat substitutes on the market are
    perfectly safe. And the food police hype hypothetical threats at the
    expense of our effort to combat the real threat of obesity. Worse yet,
    the predictable opposition to each new technology has a chilling effect
    on the development of new products that can make food taste good with
    fewer calories.

    While consumption habits vary, imagine that a typical overweight person
    drinks a 12-ounce can of cola a day. At 155 calories, that adds up to
    56,575 calories a year. While it would be nice to replace the soda with
    a more nutritious beverage, or with zero-calorie water, that is too big
    a lifestyle adjustment for some people to make (at least at first). But
    if one replaced full-calorie soda with a diet soda (while maintaining
    the same activity level), that modest change alone would result in a
    loss of 16.2 pounds in just one year. Similar losses would take place
    if fat replacers such as Olestra and Z-Trim were made more available as
    well.

    Weight-loss aids like these will help people take small steps, rather
    than demanding they take large leaps. This initial success at weight
    loss may also motivate people to commit to an exercise program. Yet the
    products of food technology, both products that exist and ones in the
    pipeline, are demonized by those who are supposedly promoting the
    public interest.

    They're contributing to the health problems they purport to combat.
    Isn't it time we held them accountable?

    Jeff Stier, Esq., is an associate director of the American Council on
    Science and Health.

    This information was found online at:
    http://www.acsh.org/factsfears/newsID.538/news_detail.asp

  3. Not That It Matters said:

    (top posting only due to long post...)

    Perhaps the concept of editing is too difficult...?

    Quoted message said:

    Yes, the food police should shut up when it comes to deadly food
    additives.

    Well, you named yourself well. Nothing matters when it doesn't apply to
    the topic at hand. There aren't any "deadly food additives" mentioned in
    the piece. I guess you just felt the need to type something... Anything.

    Quoted message said:

    After all, dead people are really skinny aren't they? ;-)

    What a splendidly stupid thing to say.

    Sounds like NTIM is endorsing the wacko "Center for Science in the
    Public Interest." Those cranks who are neither scientific nor operating
    in the public interest.

    Intelligent...? Not that it matters...

    Pastorio

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Bob (this one) said:

    (Food) Police Corruption Scandal

    By Jeff Stier, Esq.

    Nutrition activists like the Center for Science in the Public Interest
    are scaring Americans away from technology that could help us lose
    weight.

    There is plenty of blame to go around for America's growing obesity
    crisis. Responsible or not, fast food, sodas in schools, and even
    SpongeBob Squarepants (see http://cspinet.org/new/200311101.html) have
    all come under attack. But one villain has gotten off scot-free. Until
    today. By scaring consumers about "unnatural products," "processed
    food," and "artificial additives," the food police, led by Michael
    Jacobson's Center for Science in the Public Interest (CSPI), are guilty
    of interfering with American's effort to battle the bulge.

    Some background: The federal government's recently published dietary
    guidelines (see http://www.healthierus.gov/dietaryguidelines/) provide
    a science-based approach to healthy eating. But while the guidelines
    are good, they are a radical departure from how most Americans eat
    today, and for the vast majority of obese Americans, willpower,
    discipline, and guilt only go so far. For those most at risk, the "eat
    only good foods" approach doesn't work. People need help to bridge the
    large gap between how they _are_ eating and how they _should be_
    eating, especially with respect to the number of calories they consume.
    Food technology, while certainly not the only solution, is one
    important tool to help us get there.

    Yet the activists fight scientific advances that could provide
    appealing lower-calorie options, preferring to wag their fingers at us
    until we change our eating behavior. They told us saccharin caused
    cancer, for instance, and they made a big joke out of the promising fat
    substitute, Olestra (see:
    http://www.acsh.org/healthissues/newsID.583/healthissue_detail.asp).
    Yet the artificial sweeteners and fat substitutes on the market are
    perfectly safe. And the food police hype hypothetical threats at the
    expense of our effort to combat the real threat of obesity. Worse yet,
    the predictable opposition to each new technology has a chilling effect
    on the development of new products that can make food taste good with
    fewer calories.

    While consumption habits vary, imagine that a typical overweight person
    drinks a 12-ounce can of cola a day. At 155 calories, that adds up to
    56,575 calories a year. While it would be nice to replace the soda with
    a more nutritious beverage, or with zero-calorie water, that is too big
    a lifestyle adjustment for some people to make (at least at first). But
    if one replaced full-calorie soda with a diet soda (while maintaining
    the same activity level), that modest change alone would result in a
    loss of 16.2 pounds in just one year. Similar losses would take place
    if fat replacers such as Olestra and Z-Trim were made more available as
    well.

    Weight-loss aids like these will help people take small steps, rather
    than demanding they take large leaps. This initial success at weight
    loss may also motivate people to commit to an exercise program. Yet the
    products of food technology, both products that exist and ones in the
    pipeline, are demonized by those who are supposedly promoting the
    public interest.

    They're contributing to the health problems they purport to combat.
    Isn't it time we held them accountable?

    Jeff Stier, Esq., is an associate director of the American Council on
    Science and Health.

    This information was found online at:
    http://www.acsh.org/factsfears/newsID.538/news_detail.asp

  4. Bob (this one) said:

    (Food) Police Corruption Scandal

    By Jeff Stier, Esq.

    Nutrition activists like the Center for Science in the Public Interest
    are scaring Americans away from technology that could help us lose
    weight.

    There is plenty of blame to go around for America's growing obesity
    crisis. Responsible or not, fast food, sodas in schools, and even
    SpongeBob Squarepants (see http://cspinet.org/new/200311101.html) have
    all come under attack. But one villain has gotten off scot-free. Until
    today. By scaring consumers about "unnatural products," "processed
    food," and "artificial additives," the food police, led by Michael
    Jacobson's Center for Science in the Public Interest (CSPI), are guilty
    of interfering with American's effort to battle the bulge.

    Some background: The federal government's recently published dietary
    guidelines (see http://www.healthierus.gov/dietaryguidelines/) provide
    a science-based approach to healthy eating. But while the guidelines
    are good, they are a radical departure from how most Americans eat
    today, and for the vast majority of obese Americans, willpower,
    discipline, and guilt only go so far. For those most at risk, the "eat
    only good foods" approach doesn't work. People need help to bridge the
    large gap between how they _are_ eating and how they _should be_
    eating, especially with respect to the number of calories they consume.
    Food technology, while certainly not the only solution, is one
    important tool to help us get there.

    Yet the activists fight scientific advances that could provide
    appealing lower-calorie options, preferring to wag their fingers at us
    until we change our eating behavior. They told us saccharin caused
    cancer, for instance, and they made a big joke out of the promising fat
    substitute, Olestra (see:
    http://www.acsh.org/healthissues/newsID.583/healthissue_detail.asp).
    Yet the artificial sweeteners and fat substitutes on the market are
    perfectly safe. And the food police hype hypothetical threats at the
    expense of our effort to combat the real threat of obesity. Worse yet,
    the predictable opposition to each new technology has a chilling effect
    on the development of new products that can make food taste good with
    fewer calories.


    [snip]

    It's the same as gun control in Chicago. The politicians rail against a
    problem, while their policies make things worse -- they have a vested
    interest in prolonging the problem. If the problem ever goes away, from
    what will they draw power? Meanwhile, the stupid people keep reelecting
    them because they are seen as *at least doing something*.

    Bob

  5. Bob (this one) said:

    (Food) Police Corruption Scandal

    By Jeff Stier, Esq.

    Nutrition activists like the Center for Science in the Public
    Interest are scaring Americans away from technology that could
    help us lose weight. [snip article]
    Jeff Stier, Esq., is an associate director of the American Council on
    Science and Health.

    Non-U.S. rfc-ers may not be aware that the conflict between the CSPI
    and the ACSH is sadly typical of the current American political
    landscape. That is, the CSPI is a "liberal" organization, generally
    very skeptical of corporate practices and motives and in favor of
    oversight and regulation, while the ACSH is a "conservative"
    organization, generally very skeptical of government and regulation.
    They fight with one another about just about everything except tobacco,
    and whatever actual science supports the position of either group gets
    quickly lost in ideological rhetoric. -aem

  6. Bob (this one) said:

    They're contributing to the health problems they purport to combat.
    Isn't it time we held them accountable?

    Jeff Stier, Esq., is an associate director of the American Council on
    Science and Health.


    It sounds like another class action suit in progress.

    I have a problem with a council appearing to be about science and
    health headed by a lawyer

    Pan Ohco

  7. In article <[email hidden]>,

    aem said:
    Bob (this one) said:

    Nutrition activists like the Center for Science in the Public
    Interest are scaring Americans away from technology that could
    help us lose weight. [snip article]
    Jeff Stier, Esq., is an associate director of the American
    Council on Science and Health.

    Non-U.S. rfc-ers may not be aware that the conflict between the CSPI
    and the ACSH is sadly typical of the current American political
    landscape. That is, the CSPI is a "liberal" organization, generally
    very skeptical of corporate practices and motives and in favor of
    oversight and regulation, while the ACSH is a "conservative"
    organization, generally very skeptical of government and regulation.

    ACSH hadn't entered my awareness until now, but the CSPI you
    could hardly avoid hearing about in the U.S. -- They have nearly
    weekly press conferences, with extensive fawning media coverage,
    always with all-too-predictable hyperventilated scaremongering.
    Chinese food is loaded with deadly sodium and if you eat it you
    will die. Fettucini Alfredo is a heart attack on a plate and
    if you eat it you will die. Etc., etc., etc.

    Quoted message said:

    They fight with one another about just about everything except
    tobacco, and whatever actual science supports the position of
    either group gets quickly lost in ideological rhetoric. -aem

    Actual science... What a concept.

    --
    Mad Science means never having to say | Mike Van Pelt
    "What's the worst thing that could happen?" | mvp at calweb.com
    -- Kevyn, schlockmercenary.com | KE6BVH

  8. Mike Van Pelt said:


    ACSH hadn't entered my awareness until now, but the CSPI you
    could hardly avoid hearing about in the U.S. -- They have nearly
    weekly press conferences, with extensive fawning media coverage,
    always with all-too-predictable hyperventilated scaremongering.
    [snip]

    Right. The one tends to announce positions as an organization. The
    other tends to write and speak through its staffers bylines, with the
    organization sometimes identified in the headnote or footnote, as in
    the OP here. They have been opposing advocacy groups for decades on a
    broad range of issues. I first heard of ACSH when they opposed
    regulating/banning DDT.

    When conservative media like the National Review, Fox News, the
    Washington Times, and the Wall St. Journal want articles, op-ed pieces,
    or quotes on issues like FDA proposals, food safety issues, drug
    reviews and other pharmaceutical industry issues, they often get them
    from the ACSH.

    Quoted message said:

    Actual science... What a concept.

    We would do better with actual science AND with mad science, if we
    could rid ourselves of politicized science. -aem

  9. Pan Ohco said:
    Bob (this one) said:

    They're contributing to the health problems they purport to combat.
    Isn't it time we held them accountable?

    Jeff Stier, Esq., is an associate director of the American Council on
    Science and Health.


    It sounds like another class action suit in progress.

    I have a problem with a council appearing to be about science and
    health headed by a lawyer


    It's Elizabeth Whelan's group, for what that's worth. (Not much in my
    book).

    Sue(tm)
    Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

  10. Before making silly characterizations, please take a moment to visit
    www.acsh.org.

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