Food for thought

Corvus Corvax said:

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Microsoft is the devil.

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Gman said:

Corvus Corvax said:

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Microsoft is the devil.

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that's all we need.....

On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 06:37:48 -0400, Dave W <[email hidden]> penned:

Quoted message said:

Gman said:

Corvus Corvax said:

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Microsoft is the devil.

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that's all we need.....

As a general rule, I'll take any excuse to bash microsoft, but I'm not sure that this particular
plan is all that awful. As described in the article (and yes, that's a big qualifier), the use of
this system seems to be for the end user of whatever their new news client will be. It will act as a
"smart" client, picking and choosing the most active threads, putting a little icon next to people
with a history of flaming, etc ...

Now, I personally wouldn't use this "client of the future," but c'mon now ... it's not like
newsgroups are particularly private ... it should come as no surprise that someone would think to
collate this kind of data.

It sounds to me like all of this effort is going to go into a "value added" MS news client ... and
hey, if people want to use that, fine by
me. I always seem to revert to something I can run in a terminal window ... don't think microsoft's
gonna go after that market any time soon.

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"Monique Y. Herman" <[email hidden]> wrote in :"]news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

It sounds to me like all of this effort is going to go into a "value added" MS news client ... and
hey, if people want to use that, fine by
me. I always seem to revert to something I can run in a terminal window ... don't think
microsoft's gonna go after that market any time soon.

I have to give micro$oft props for making PC's easier for the common human to use, but they have a
problem with leaving the standard alone... basically, re-writing netiquette to their standards. M$
has some great ideas for making computers and networks user-friendly... but they refuse to share
their ideas with the rest of the world... only sell them to the consumer. if M$ has their way
(yeah... I'm reaching way out here), I'm pretty sure that reading messages in a terminal window
would be almost impossible.

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On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 18:33:29 -0000, Skokatt <chris@[> penned:

Quoted message said:

"Monique Y. Herman" <[email hidden]> wrote in :"]news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

It sounds to me like all of this effort is going to go into a "value added" MS news client ...
and hey, if people want to use that, fine by
me. I always seem to revert to something I can run in a terminal window ... don't think
microsoft's gonna go after that market any time soon.

I have to give micro$oft props for making PC's easier for the common human to use, but they have a
problem with leaving the standard alone... basically, re-writing netiquette to their standards. M$
has some great ideas for making computers and networks user-friendly... but they refuse to share
their ideas with the rest of the world... only sell them to the consumer. if M$ has their way
(yeah... I'm reaching way out here), I'm pretty sure that reading messages in a terminal window
would be almost impossible.

Agbreed on all counts ... but I have trouble envisioning them rewriting nntp. I mean, they might
create a new newsgroup protocol, but then what? microsofties would use it; everyone else would use
something else. In order for MS to change nntp, they'd have to have a significant newsgroup server
market ... and somehow (maybe I'm wrong) I just can't imagine that happening ...

They're scary when it comes to stuff that offices use regularly. I've yet to work somewhere that put
any thought into making sure I have newsgroup access.

I hope I'm right on this one, anyway ...

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monique

Monique Y. Herman said:

On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 18:33:29 -0000, Skokatt <chris@[> penned:

Quoted message said:

"Monique Y. Herman" <[email hidden]> wrote in :"]news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

It sounds to me like all of this effort is going to go into a "value added" MS news client ...
and hey, if people want to use that, fine by
me. I always seem to revert to something I can run in a terminal window ... don't think
microsoft's gonna go after that market any time soon.

I have to give micro$oft props for making PC's easier for the common human to use, but they have a
problem with leaving the standard alone... basically, re-writing netiquette to their standards. M$
has some great ideas for making computers and networks user-friendly... but they refuse to share
their ideas with the rest of the world... only sell them to the consumer. if M$ has their way
(yeah... I'm reaching way out here), I'm pretty sure that reading messages in a terminal window
would be almost impossible.

Agbreed on all counts ... but I have trouble envisioning them rewriting nntp. I mean, they might
create a new newsgroup protocol, but then what? microsofties would use it; everyone else would use
something else. In order for MS to change nntp, they'd have to have a significant newsgroup server
market ... and somehow (maybe I'm wrong) I just can't imagine that happening ...

They're scary when it comes to stuff that offices use regularly. I've yet to work somewhere that
put any thought into making sure I have newsgroup access.

I hope I'm right on this one, anyway ...

However, a news program that let you form your own database just by clicking on a different icon /
using a different key stroke to move on to the next item sounds interesting...

David

On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 07:55:23 GMT, David Kunz <[email hidden]> penned:

Quoted message said:

However, a news program that let you form your own database just by clicking on a different icon /
using a different key stroke to move on to the next item sounds interesting...

David

The newsreader I'm using right now, slrn, seems to have this. It's called "scoring" -- you can set
up a "score" file and each post will be given a numeric value based on the combination of factors
you've set up.

Haven't tried it yet, though.

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