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  1. FACTS

    1. Japanese eat very little fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than
    the Aussies, British or Americans.

    2. Mexicans eat a lot of fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than
    the Aussies, British or Americans.

    3. Africans drink very little red wine and suffer fewer heart attacks
    than the Aussies, British or Americans.

    4. Italians drink large amounts of red wine and suffer fewer heart
    attacks than the Aussies, British or Americans.

    5. Germans drink a lot of beer and eat lots of sausages and fats
    and suffer fewer heart attacks than the Aussies, British or Americans.

    CONCLUSION

    Eat and drink what you like. Speaking English is apparently
    what kills you.

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  2. I agree !!!!!!!!!!!!! I shall revert to French now..
    Merci beaucoup ! ;op

    --
    Will~

    The problem with this world is stupidity, now I'm not saying there should
    be capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the
    safety labels off everything and let the problem solve itself?

    "weightloss" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    FACTS

    1. Japanese eat very little fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than
    the Aussies, British or Americans.

    2. Mexicans eat a lot of fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than
    the Aussies, British or Americans.

    3. Africans drink very little red wine and suffer fewer heart attacks
    than the Aussies, British or Americans.

    4. Italians drink large amounts of red wine and suffer fewer heart
    attacks than the Aussies, British or Americans.

    5. Germans drink a lot of beer and eat lots of sausages and fats
    and suffer fewer heart attacks than the Aussies, British or Americans.

    CONCLUSION

    Eat and drink what you like. Speaking English is apparently
    what kills you.

    --
    Transform your dialup to faster than Broadband for Free!
    http://www.juiceboosted.com/index.php?RequestId=2&Id=lv8tk

  3. weightloss wrote:
    | FACTS
    |
    | 1. Japanese eat very little fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than
    | the Aussies, British or Americans.
    |
    | 2. Mexicans eat a lot of fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than
    | the Aussies, British or Americans.
    |
    | 3. Africans drink very little red wine and suffer fewer heart attacks
    | than the Aussies, British or Americans.
    |
    | 4. Italians drink large amounts of red wine and suffer fewer heart
    | attacks than the Aussies, British or Americans.
    |
    | 5. Germans drink a lot of beer and eat lots of sausages and fats
    | and suffer fewer heart attacks than the Aussies, British or Americans.
    |
    | CONCLUSION
    |
    | Eat and drink what you like. Speaking English is apparently
    | what kills you.

    cute :-P

    --
    Peter
    270/215/180
    Before/Current Pix:
    http://users.thelink.net/marengo/weightlosspix/weightlosspix.html

  4. "weightloss" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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    FACTS


    1. Japanese Sumos eat very little fat and exercise and have the
    highest heart attack rate in the world.

    Quoted message said:


    2. Hindus eat no animal fat and have 15 times the risk of early heart
    attack than Americans.

    Quoted message said:


    3. African Tutsis traditionally eat the highest fat diet known to man
    ( no vegetables, 65% animal fat) and have the average lowest
    cholesterol and heart disease rate of all people known .

    Quoted message said:


    4. There has never been a case of heart disease in a hunter-gatherer
    eating a traditional diet.

    5. Hamburgers ( hold the bun please) are the least profitable item at
    McDonalds.

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    CONCLUSION


    Eat and drink what you like. Your doctor only makes money when you're
    sick!

    Ray Audette
    Author "NeanderThin"
    www.NeanderThin.com

  5. [email hidden] (Ray Audette) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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    2. Hindus eat no animal fat and have 15 times the risk of early heart
    attack than Americans.

    15 times? Why's that? Do you have a source for this?

    Quoted message said:

    3. African Tutsis traditionally eat the highest fat diet known to man
    ( no vegetables, 65% animal fat) and have the average lowest
    cholesterol and heart disease rate of all people known .

    How many of them are regularly tested for cholesterol and heart
    disease?

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    4. There has never been a case of heart disease in a hunter-gatherer
    eating a traditional diet.

    Perhaps because they all die before they're 20?

    Quoted message said:

    5. Hamburgers ( hold the bun please) are the least profitable item at
    McDonalds.

    How is that, when they are so expensive and yet made from recycled
    cardboard and grit?

  6. [email hidden] (The Voice of Reason) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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    2. Hindus eat no animal fat and have 15 times the risk of early heart
    attack than Americans.



    Special Features of CAD among Indians
     Commonly manifests at earlier age, usually a decade earlier
    (around 45-50 years); 3-25 per cent are less than 40 years of age.
     Indians in 30-39 years have 10 times greater risk of AMI than
    Caucasians of same age.
     Age standardised mortality ratio (SMR) for CAD is 313 higher
    in the age group of 20-29 years compares to Whites.
     Indians with CAD has more extensive triple vessel disease (54
    per cent against 21 per cent) than western world; commonly manifests
    with AMI without prior Angina. Analysis of Coronary risk factors often
    fails to explain marked differences in CAD rates among different
    ethnic groups.
     In spite of their wining and dining habits, France has the
    lowest rate of CAD
     In America and African countries, the incidence of CAD is
    lower despite high prevalence of obesity, diabetes mellitus and
    hypertension, elevated Lp(a) and low socio-economic status in African
    countries. On the contrary, the prevalence of CAD in India is higher
    despite lower prevalence of smoking (3 per cent against 27 per cent),
    hypertension (14 per cent against 19 per cent), elevated cholesterol
    (. 240 mg/dl) (17 per cent against 23 per cent) and obesity (31 per
    cent against 3 per cent) and higher prevalence of spiritual faith and
    vegetarianism. As per Framingham's Study, 30-35 per cent Indians with
    CAD lack traditional risk factors except for Diabetes Mellitus (8 per
    cent against 1 per cent in the West).

    Dr (Prof) A K Maity, the author is senior consultant cardiologist,
    former director of Institute of Post-Graduate Medicine Education and
    Research and former professor and head-department of cardiology, SSKM
    Hospital-Kolkata

    Ray Audette
    Author "NeanderThin"
    www.NeanderThin.com

  7. [email hidden] (The Voice of Reason) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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    [email hidden] (Ray Audette) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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    3. African Tutsis traditionally eat the highest fat diet known to man
    ( no vegetables, 65% animal fat) and have the average lowest
    cholesterol and heart disease rate of all people known .

    How many of them are regularly tested for cholesterol and heart
    disease?


    Shaper, A. G. et al,
    "Cardiovascular studies in the Samburu tribe of Northern Kenya."
    American Heart Journal Vol. 63 No. 4 (April 1962) 437-442.

    At least these few thousand were.

    Ray Audette
    Author "NeanderThin"
    www.NeanderThin.com

  8. [email hidden] (The Voice of Reason) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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    [email hidden] (Ray Audette) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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    4. There has never been a case of heart disease in a hunter-gatherer
    eating a traditional diet.

    Perhaps because they all die before they're 20?


    Mark Cohen and G. J. Armelagos,
    Paleopathology at the Origins of Agriculture.
    New York: Academic Press, 1984.

    Civilized humans only exceeded the life expectancy of Paleolithic
    hunter-gatherers people in the 20th century. When people began eating
    technology dependent foods they lost 40% of lifespan. Cohen is a
    professor of anthropology at NYSU.

    Stefansson, Vilhjalmur,
    Cancer: Disease of Civilization.
    New York: Hill and [censored], 1960.
    Documents the unsuccessful 100 year search for cancer
    and heart disease among hunter-gatherers. By the famed arctic
    anthropologist who was the last (white) man to discover new lands in
    the Americas.

    I'll leave the McDonalds slander for their attorneys to handle.

    Ray Audette
    Author "NeanderThin"
    www.NeanderThin.com

  9. jbuch <[email hidden]> wrote in message >

    Quoted message said:

    Where are all the thin people from LOW FAT DIETS that have been
    postulated for the last 40 years?


    Roach, Mary,
    "Advice from the World's Biggest Weight Experts: Their Gain Can Be
    Your Loss."
    Health (March/April 1993) 62-72.
    Describes the traditional, low-fat diet of Japanese sumo wrestlers.

    Centuries old traditions of diet and exercise have shown the results.
    Have you ever seen Dean Ornish in a thong?

    Ever seen a picture of John Harvey Kellogg, inventor of the low fat
    diet and exercise program your doctor recommends. His foundation is
    worth in excess of $12 billion - earned by selling high carbohydrate
    breakfast foods (i.e. corn flakes) to children. He was also the first
    to show that if one fed corn kibble to wolves instead of meat they
    became autistic. Dog food manufacturers and pediatric neurologists
    have been forever grateful for the profits he generated.

    Ray Audette
    Author "NeanderThin"
    www.NeanderThin.com

  10. "Ray Audette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    jbuch <[email hidden]> wrote in message >

    Quoted message said:

    Where are all the thin people from LOW FAT DIETS that have been
    postulated for the last 40 years?


    Roach, Mary,
    "Advice from the World's Biggest Weight Experts: Their Gain Can Be
    Your Loss."
    Health (March/April 1993) 62-72.
    Describes the traditional, low-fat diet of Japanese sumo wrestlers.

    Centuries old traditions of diet and exercise have shown the results.
    Have you ever seen Dean Ornish in a thong?

    Ever seen a picture of John Harvey Kellogg, inventor of the low fat
    diet and exercise program your doctor recommends. His foundation is
    worth in excess of $12 billion - earned by selling high carbohydrate
    breakfast foods (i.e. corn flakes) to children. He was also the first
    to show that if one fed corn kibble to wolves instead of meat they
    became autistic. Dog food manufacturers and pediatric neurologists
    have been forever grateful for the profits he generated.

    Ray Audette
    Author "NeanderThin"
    www.NeanderThin.com

    Your comments would go further, if you didn't ue them as an ad for your
    book. Spam is spam.

    --
    JK Sinrod
    Sinrod Stained Glass Studios
    www.sinrodstudios.com
    Coney Island Memories
    www.sinrodstudios.com/coneymemories

  11. HERE I AM. Consistently eat a high quality, low fat diet of lean protein,
    complex carbohydrates, generally good food, including lovely crunchy whole
    grain rolls and pasta and brown rice. Lots of good fruit and vegetables.
    Small servings of lean protein. Have been at a normal BMI for a year now,
    after being morbidly obese (365 was the most I ever weighed that was
    "official"😉 for most of my life. I am going to be 56 years old tomorrow. And
    have spent my first year at a normal weight this past year, after doing what
    the guy told me to do when I was 17. Eat less, eat good food, exercise more.
    No One Diet Fits All. Eskimos don't thrive on the same diet as Pima Indians.
    Get over it. Find yours and quit wasting all your energy in an incredibly
    short sighted over simplified argument.

    --
    Les
    "Ray Audette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    jbuch <[email hidden]> wrote in message >

    Quoted message said:

    Where are all the thin people from LOW FAT DIETS that have been
    postulated for the last 40 years?


    Roach, Mary,
    "Advice from the World's Biggest Weight Experts: Their Gain Can Be
    Your Loss."
    Health (March/April 1993) 62-72.
    Describes the traditional, low-fat diet of Japanese sumo wrestlers.

    Centuries old traditions of diet and exercise have shown the results.
    Have you ever seen Dean Ornish in a thong?

    Ever seen a picture of John Harvey Kellogg, inventor of the low fat
    diet and exercise program your doctor recommends. His foundation is
    worth in excess of $12 billion - earned by selling high carbohydrate
    breakfast foods (i.e. corn flakes) to children. He was also the first
    to show that if one fed corn kibble to wolves instead of meat they
    became autistic. Dog food manufacturers and pediatric neurologists
    have been forever grateful for the profits he generated.

    Ray Audette
    Author "NeanderThin"
    www.NeanderThin.com

  12. OH Oops, I just answered your question without seeing that you are one of
    the blood suckers that makes money off peoples misery.
    My Bad.

    --
    Les
    "Ray Audette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    jbuch <[email hidden]> wrote in message >

    Quoted message said:

    Where are all the thin people from LOW FAT DIETS that have been
    postulated for the last 40 years?


    Roach, Mary,
    "Advice from the World's Biggest Weight Experts: Their Gain Can Be
    Your Loss."
    Health (March/April 1993) 62-72.
    Describes the traditional, low-fat diet of Japanese sumo wrestlers.

    Centuries old traditions of diet and exercise have shown the results.
    Have you ever seen Dean Ornish in a thong?

    Ever seen a picture of John Harvey Kellogg, inventor of the low fat
    diet and exercise program your doctor recommends. His foundation is
    worth in excess of $12 billion - earned by selling high carbohydrate
    breakfast foods (i.e. corn flakes) to children. He was also the first
    to show that if one fed corn kibble to wolves instead of meat they
    became autistic. Dog food manufacturers and pediatric neurologists
    have been forever grateful for the profits he generated.

    Ray Audette
    Author "NeanderThin"
    www.NeanderThin.com

  13. "jk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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    "Ray Audette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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    Ray Audette
    Author "NeanderThin"
    www.NeanderThin.com

    Your comments would go further, if you didn't ue them as an ad for your
    book. Spam is spam.

    So I guess the stained glass you make is free. Do you pay shipping
    costs too?
    At least I'm not an overweight diet book author like the other guy
    from Dallas who wrote "fit for life" and sells exercise equipment on
    late-night infomercials.

    Ray Audette
    Author "NeanderThin"
    www.NeanderThin.com

  14. jk said:


    "Ray Audette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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    Quoted message said:

    Roach, Mary,
    "Advice from the World's Biggest Weight Experts: Their Gain Can Be
    Your Loss."
    Health (March/April 1993) 62-72.
    Describes the traditional, low-fat diet of Japanese sumo wrestlers.

    Centuries old traditions of diet and exercise have shown the results.
    Have you ever seen Dean Ornish in a thong?

    Heaven forfend.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Ray Audette
    Author "NeanderThin"
    www.NeanderThin.com

    Your comments would go further, if you didn't ue them as an ad for your
    book. Spam is spam.

    Actually, the generally accepted practice in asdlc is that one is
    permitted to include a link to one's website in one's signature file.
    While this isn't properly delineated (there should be a --
    dash dash space hard return before the signature file, I think the above
    meets the spirit of the convention. Your signature file is correctly
    delimited (which is why it doesn't show in my reply) but equally points to
    your commercial ventures.

    What I see is Mr. (Dr.?) Audette posting his opinions, experience and
    research on matters that are relevant to this group. I haven't seen any
    blatant "buy my book" posts from him.

    Postings are not spam simply because the poster could benefit financially
    as a result of someone reading that post.

    Martha

    --
    Only those who risk going too far can possibly find out how far one can
    go. (T.S. Eliott)

  15. jk said:
    Quoted message said:

    Ray Audette
    Author "NeanderThin"
    www.NeanderThin.com

    Your comments would go further, if you didn't ue them as an ad
    for your book. Spam is spam.

    --
    JK Sinrod
    Sinrod Stained Glass Studios
    www.sinrodstudios.com

    Uh, yeah. My eyesight must be going 'cause I'd swear that was a
    commercial website with your name on it in *your* sig file.
    What's up with that?
    At least Ray's book is relevant to ASDLC. Stained glass, while often
    lovely, isn't.

    Carmen

  16. Ray's book is not spam, and it should be required reading in the list
    of low carbohydrate sources. Without Atkins and Eades promoting their
    lowcarb WOE through books and publications, I doubt this newsgroup
    would exist. I myself eat paleo, and consider Ray to be an ultimate
    resource. Ray, I read everything you write - I consider paleo a way
    of life. I eat large quantities of wonderful natural food and
    maintain a six petite dress size. In fact, it was your postings many
    years ago that got me started low carbing and truly believing that
    eating naturally is for optimum health and weight management. So Ray,
    you just keep on writing and signing because some of us are listening!

    Murph

    "jk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    "Ray Audette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    jbuch <[email hidden]> wrote in message >

    Quoted message said:

    Where are all the thin people from LOW FAT DIETS that have been
    postulated for the last 40 years?


    Roach, Mary,
    "Advice from the World's Biggest Weight Experts: Their Gain Can Be
    Your Loss."
    Health (March/April 1993) 62-72.
    Describes the traditional, low-fat diet of Japanese sumo wrestlers.

    Centuries old traditions of diet and exercise have shown the results.
    Have you ever seen Dean Ornish in a thong?

    Ever seen a picture of John Harvey Kellogg, inventor of the low fat
    diet and exercise program your doctor recommends. His foundation is
    worth in excess of $12 billion - earned by selling high carbohydrate
    breakfast foods (i.e. corn flakes) to children. He was also the first
    to show that if one fed corn kibble to wolves instead of meat they
    became autistic. Dog food manufacturers and pediatric neurologists
    have been forever grateful for the profits he generated.

    Ray Audette
    Author "NeanderThin"
    www.NeanderThin.com

    Your comments would go further, if you didn't ue them as an ad for your
    book. Spam is spam.

  17. Lesanne said:

    HERE I AM. Consistently eat a high quality, low fat diet of lean protein,
    complex carbohydrates, generally good food, including lovely crunchy whole
    grain rolls and pasta and brown rice. Lots of good fruit and vegetables.
    Small servings of lean protein. Have been at a normal BMI for a year now,
    after being morbidly obese (365 was the most I ever weighed that was
    "official"😉 for most of my life. I am going to be 56 years old tomorrow. And
    have spent my first year at a normal weight this past year, after doing what
    the guy told me to do when I was 17. Eat less, eat good food, exercise more.
    No One Diet Fits All. Eskimos don't thrive on the same diet as Pima Indians.
    Get over it. Find yours and quit wasting all your energy in an incredibly
    short sighted over simplified argument.

    Yay! This is the 'diet' that suits me too. Don't point an Atkins type
    diet in my direction: I'd be seriously ill on it in very short order.
    One meat heavy meal and I suffer... On the other hand, I have friends
    who do better on low carb diets, and that's just fine if that's what
    suits them. It's all a matter of balance.

    BTW Lesanne, Happy Birthday for tomorrow!

    --
    Kate XXXXXX
    Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
    http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk
    Click on Kate's Pages and explore!

  18. Thank you for saying that Carmen. I was wondering the same thing. :-)

    --
    Cheri
    Type 2, no meds for now.

    Carmen wrote in message <[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:


    Uh, yeah. My eyesight must be going 'cause I'd swear that was a
    commercial website with your name on it in *your* sig file.
    What's up with that?
    At least Ray's book is relevant to ASDLC. Stained glass, while often
    lovely, isn't.

    Carmen

  19. "Ray Audette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    "jk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "Ray Audette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    Ray Audette
    Author "NeanderThin"
    www.NeanderThin.com

    Your comments would go further, if you didn't ue them as an ad for


    your

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    book. Spam is spam.

    So I guess the stained glass you make is free. Do you pay shipping
    costs too?
    At least I'm not an overweight diet book author like the other guy
    from Dallas who wrote "fit for life" and sells exercise equipment on
    late-night infomercials.

    Ray Audette
    Author "NeanderThin"

    Big difference. This is not a related NG to what I do. I don't really
    sell on my website, but only show my work. You comments added to your book,
    make your motives suspect. I was only giving you my opinion.

    --
    JK Sinrod
    Coney Island Memories
    www.sinrodstudios.com/coneymemories

  20. "Martha Gallagher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    jk said:


    "Ray Audette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Roach, Mary,
    "Advice from the World's Biggest Weight Experts: Their Gain Can Be
    Your Loss."
    Health (March/April 1993) 62-72.
    Describes the traditional, low-fat diet of Japanese sumo wrestlers.

    Centuries old traditions of diet and exercise have shown the results.
    Have you ever seen Dean Ornish in a thong?

    Heaven forfend.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Ray Audette
    Author "NeanderThin"
    www.NeanderThin.com

    Your comments would go further, if you didn't ue them as an ad for


    your

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    book. Spam is spam.

    Actually, the generally accepted practice in asdlc is that one is
    permitted to include a link to one's website in one's signature file.
    While this isn't properly delineated (there should be a --
    dash dash space hard return before the signature file, I think the above
    meets the spirit of the convention. Your signature file is correctly
    delimited (which is why it doesn't show in my reply) but equally points to
    your commercial ventures.

    What I see is Mr. (Dr.?) Audette posting his opinions, experience and
    research on matters that are relevant to this group. I haven't seen any
    blatant "buy my book" posts from him.

    Postings are not spam simply because the poster could benefit financially
    as a result of someone reading that post.

    Martha

    --
    Only those who risk going too far can possibly find out how far one can
    go. (T.S. Eliott)

    You convinced me Martha. I'm not opposed to any sig's used. I was only
    politely commenting on his possible motives in posting here. I'm sure his
    book is fine. I don't consider my sig spam, as 100% of my business is done
    purely locally. I only add it so people can see who I am, and what I do.

    --
    JK Sinrod
    Sinrod Stained Glass Studios
    www.sinrodstudios.com
    Coney Island Memories
    www.sinrodstudios.com/coneymemories

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