Floyd speaks (video too)

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Landis Says Positive News Coming Soon

Cyclist Believes New Findings Will Help Him Retain Tour De France Title

POSTED: 8:36 am PDT September 8, 2006
UPDATED: 12:02 pm PDT September 8, 2006

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/9809757/detail.html

I'm curious to see if they indeed found anything "new" or they are just
trying to poke some holes in the walls of the lab.

It will be interesting given the amount of smoke Jacob's blew in the
Hamilton case. Time will tell--Monday?

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http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/9809757/detail.html

I'm curious to see if they indeed found anything "new" or they are just
trying to poke some holes in the walls of the lab.

We ought to know monday, by the quality of the submission and how much
supporting data they choose to show.

Jacobs has sounded optimistic before and come up short.

-dB

On 9/8/06 4:17 PM, in article
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Quoted message said:

Landis Says Positive News Coming Soon

Cyclist Believes New Findings Will Help Him Retain Tour De France Title

POSTED: 8:36 am PDT September 8, 2006
UPDATED: 12:02 pm PDT September 8, 2006

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/9809757/detail.html

I'm curious to see if they indeed found anything "new" or they are just
trying to poke some holes in the walls of the lab.

It will be interesting given the amount of smoke Jacob's blew in the
Hamilton case. Time will tell--Monday?

Very small......
Compared to the multi-lingual cannon-fodder aftermath that spews from your
spokes-hole.........

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Landis Says Positive News Coming Soon

Did he really say 'positive' news?

Bob Schwartz

NFW -- the UCI and WADA machines will allow the test, process or labs be
proven in court to be deficient in the execution of their duties. If som
that would mean anyone else who was positive would have cause to have thier
case overturned and cause an overhaul of the system. Not going to happen,
Landis guilty or not, will have to take one for the system. Probably why
he's talking about it, to get public opinion on his side in advance of UCI's
politcs to come.

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Landis Says Positive News Coming Soon

Cyclist Believes New Findings Will Help Him Retain Tour De France Title

POSTED: 8:36 am PDT September 8, 2006
UPDATED: 12:02 pm PDT September 8, 2006

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/9809757/detail.html

I'm curious to see if they indeed found anything "new" or they are just
trying to poke some holes in the walls of the lab.

It will be interesting given the amount of smoke Jacob's blew in the
Hamilton case. Time will tell--Monday?

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Quoted message said:

Landis Says Positive News Coming Soon

Cyclist Believes New Findings Will Help Him Retain Tour De France Title

POSTED: 8:36 am PDT September 8, 2006
UPDATED: 12:02 pm PDT September 8, 2006

http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/9809757/detail.html

I'm curious to see if they indeed found anything "new" or they are just
trying to poke some holes in the walls of the lab.

It will be interesting given the amount of smoke Jacob's blew in the
Hamilton case. Time will tell--Monday?

I'm with you. I hope that on Monday we don't hear that the behavior that
went against protocol was that there was a leak concerning Floyd's name
being linked to the A sample. I hope that they have real science that
proves there was a real mistake.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Bob Schwartz said:

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Landis Says Positive News Coming Soon

Did he really say 'positive' news?

Maybe he's more of a smartass than he's been given credit for.

--
tanx,
Howard

Never take a tenant with a monkey.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 23:58:19 -0700, Howard Kveck <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Bob Schwartz said:

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Landis Says Positive News Coming Soon

Did he really say 'positive' news?

Maybe he's more of a smartass than he's been given credit for.

He ain't dumb and he hangs with Dave Z, who is on a most profound level of
irony.

Ron

RonSonic said:

He ain't dumb and he hangs with Dave Z, who is on a most profound level of
irony.

But he's an American, albeit a fairly inoffensive one.

Donald Munro said:

RonSonic said:

He ain't dumb and he hangs with Dave Z, who is on a most profound level of
irony.

But he's an American, albeit a fairly inoffensive one.

This [censored] that American's are incredibly offensive is only true if you
think that success is evil, Israel has no right to exist, nothing is
worth fighting for, Arab States that declare Israel has no right to
exist and forced conversions are good, appeasement is the answer, and
that the UN actually works. Other than that I can point you to just
about any country's folks being totally obnoxious too.
Bill C
Support Palestine! Wipe out the Jews!
http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/arafat_en.html

RonSonic said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

He ain't dumb and he hangs with Dave Z, who is on a most profound level of
irony.

Donald Munro said:

Quoted message said:

But he's an American, albeit a fairly inoffensive one.

Bill C said:

This [censored] that American's are incredibly offensive is only true if you
think that success is evil, Israel has no right to exist, nothing is
worth fighting for,

Dumbass,
If Z groks irony then nothing is worth fighting for because the world will
end soon according to the Steward Theory. Don't worry though, with a name
like Zabriskie I suspect he is really a Kazakh mole (the Kazakh secret
service don't have a very big budget). After all Vino is both the head of
the Kazakh SS and an active agent (why do you think he disrupted Telecom
team tactics last year ?).

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Support Palestine! Wipe out the Jews!
http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/arafat_en.html

How exactly did you get from Zabriskie grokking irony to wiping out jews ?

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(') said:

How exactly did you get from Zabriskie grokking irony to wiping out jews?

Simple. Anyone who questions the least detail of the divine and perfect
guidance of the President of the United States is a atheistic commie
Satan-worshipper and closet Nazi. All such people wish to destroy Zion and
replace the last remnants of the Temple of JWH with a shrine to the axis
of evil. Didn't you know this?

By the way, what does 'irony' mean?

--
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;; Madness takes its toll. Please have exact change.

Simon Brooke said:

in message <[email hidden]>, Donald Munro

(') said:

How exactly did you get from Zabriskie grokking irony to wiping out jews?

Simple. Anyone who questions the least detail of the divine and perfect
guidance of the President of the United States is a atheistic commie
Satan-worshipper and closet Nazi. All such people wish to destroy Zion and
replace the last remnants of the Temple of JWH with a shrine to the axis
of evil. Didn't you know this?

By the way, what does 'irony' mean?

The way fabric gets after you iron it. You know, "gullible" isn't in
the dictionary/

-dB

Simon Brooke said:

By the way, what does 'irony' mean?

Dunno, I think it might be something New Zealanders do with sheep.

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Simon Brooke said:

By the way, what does 'irony' mean?

Dunno, I think it might be something New Zealanders do with sheep.

"I, Ronny" was how Reagan took the Oath.

Simon Brooke said:

in message <[email hidden]>, Donald Munro

(') said:

How exactly did you get from Zabriskie grokking irony to wiping out jews?

Simple. Anyone who questions the least detail of the divine and perfect
guidance of the President of the United States is a atheistic commie
Satan-worshipper and closet Nazi. All such people wish to destroy Zion and
replace the last remnants of the Temple of JWH with a shrine to the axis
of evil. Didn't you know this?

By the way, what does 'irony' mean?

--
[email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

;; Madness takes its toll. Please have exact change.

Well Simon I guess I qualify as all those things you've stated because
I think almost all of our leadership are criminal scumbags with their
own agenda which has nothing to do with the good of the US or any but
them.
What we do have from a large percentage of our British friends is that
the IRA is a criminal scumbag terrorist outfit, and there is much more
of a valid justification for the English to run Northern Ireland than
for the Israelis, who as a recognizeable people have been living there
for thousands of years.
Europe has repeatedly answered in polls in recent years that Israel is
the biggest problem, and many have said that if Israel was replaced by
Palestine which should be there then everything would be fine and
peaceful.
That's garbage. George Galloway was at least as dirty as our
politicians and took [censored] of money from Hussein.
Especially on this anniversary it's really sad to see most of the
world rallying to the core causes the terrorists are pushing for.
How many REAL IRA members are now British MPs? You keep telling us
that we need to recognize and therefore legitimize groups such as
Hezbullah and Hamas.
They make NO secret of their Nazi connections, Mein Kampf was the
number one seller in large areas of the M.E. in the 90s.
Grand Mufti Husseini who is their most venerated spiritual leader of
the 20th century organised SS battalions for [censored] and was one of the
people who helped push the "Final Solution". Arafat as late as the 80s
kept a picture of Husseini with [censored] on his office wall. He later
switched to just one of Husseini. Husseini is cited over and over by
Islamic Leaders and Pana Arabists as THE example of what they need to
be.
They keep screaming at us just what they want to do to us, and people
here in the west keep supporting them?
How can you justify that in any way, shape, or form? And let's not try
the, "it's not the people, it's only their leaders." bit. There have
been way too many historical examples of how quickly, and with gusto,
the "innocent" people are happy to slaughter anyone they can get their
hands on. The "people" are just as responsible, and more dangerous.
It's not on that scale, but the blind devotion of a lot of Americans
to the current administration is a perfect example. They just can't
seem to do anything to make the core 35% or so even think twice.
American bashing is SO in vogue, but where is the bashing of the
Chinese for exterminating Tibet as anything meaningful? How about
France, Germany, and especially Russia blatantly violating the UN
sanctions against Hussein, including shipping him military equipment
and advisers? How about the fact that Europe and the UN, without the US
willingness to send troops has watched the catastrophe in Sudan while
doing nothing effective, and it looks like it's going to spiral out of
control again?
Everyone has their share of obnoxious, virulent, jackasses.
That's the only point I was making, but unless you actually are in
Europe to hear the folks on the Continent [censored] about the "drunken"
Brits, or the "Rude" Germans, etc...there is no bashing, and certainly
nothing on the scale of American bashing.
Certainly we deserve our share, but GOD Forbid, when Americans bash
back.
A huge part of it is that we have been way to active around the globe.
We should've pulled out of Europe almost completely after the Soviet
Union broke up. We should cut our funding of the UN to the average of
the top 5 contributors, same for troops, supplies, etc...
We should get the hell out of the Middle East and Far East and let the
UN defend Taiwan and S. Korea.
I'd love America to sit back and do nothing more than the average of
the security council and then see what the [censored] was.
Bill C

RonSonic said:

In Israel, Muslims and Arabs vote and hold public office and are
elected to the Knesset. Are you going to pretend, even for a moment,
that any majority Muslim political entity in the Middle East is going
to offer Jews the same?

Please show me an example of where this is actually happening that
might serve as a precedent.

Hmmm. How about this as a precedent:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/10/AR2006091000951.html

Robert Chung said:

RonSonic said:

In Israel, Muslims and Arabs vote and hold public office and are
elected to the Knesset. Are you going to pretend, even for a moment,
that any majority Muslim political entity in the Middle East is going
to offer Jews the same?

Please show me an example of where this is actually happening that
might serve as a precedent.

Hmmm. How about this as a precedent:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/10/AR2006091000951.html

Compare and contrast that with the Saudis' moderate stance on
religion. They are "moderates" because they aren't actively calling for
the extermination of Israel. The only vaguely moderate states you could
point to IMO would be Jordan, Egypt, and Lebanon and Lebanon is falling
out of that group.
Bill C

Robert Chung said:

RonSonic said:

In Israel, Muslims and Arabs vote and hold public office and are
elected to the Knesset. Are you going to pretend, even for a moment,
that any majority Muslim political entity in the Middle East is going
to offer Jews the same?

Please show me an example of where this is actually happening that
might serve as a precedent.

Hmmm. How about this as a precedent:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/10/AR2006091000951.html

Compare and contrast that with the Saudis' moderate stance on
religion. They are "moderates" because they aren't actively calling for
the extermination of Israel. The only vaguely moderate states you could
point to IMO would be Jordan, Egypt, and Lebanon and Lebanon is falling
out of that group.
Bill C