Floyd is...

On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 16:57:56 -0700, "G.T." <[email hidden]>

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Either Floyd is one helluvan actor or he has not knowingly used
testosterone. He really seems like he has no idea how his samples showed up
positive. He brought up four possible reasons for the results and he's
leaning towards the fourth of those which is tampering.

His reasons are of the "dog ate my homework" variety, convincing only
to the naive or gullible.

Meanwhile, on the subject of unexplained mysteries, did O.J. ever find
the "real killers?" These insoluble puzzles keep me up at night.

"Doug Taylor" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 16:57:56 -0700, "G.T." <[email hidden]>

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Either Floyd is one helluvan actor or he has not knowingly used
testosterone. He really seems like he has no idea how his samples showed

up

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positive. He brought up four possible reasons for the results and he's
leaning towards the fourth of those which is tampering.

His reasons are of the "dog ate my homework" variety, convincing only
to the naive or gullible.

Well, as opposed to OJ, he knows how to play sincere.

Greg

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On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 16:57:56 -0700, "G.T." <[email hidden]>

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Either Floyd is one helluvan actor or he has not knowingly used
testosterone. He really seems like he has no idea how his samples showed up
positive. He brought up four possible reasons for the results and he's
leaning towards the fourth of those which is tampering.

His reasons are of the "dog ate my homework" variety, convincing only
to the naive or gullible.

Meanwhile, on the subject of unexplained mysteries, did O.J. ever find
the "real killers?" These insoluble puzzles keep me up at night.

Give the man a break. He's been looking very hard for those
killers on golf courses all over south Florida.

Doug Taylor said:

On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 16:57:56 -0700, "G.T." <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Either Floyd is one helluvan actor or he has not knowingly used
testosterone. He really seems like he has no idea how his samples showed up
positive. He brought up four possible reasons for the results and he's
leaning towards the fourth of those which is tampering.

His reasons are of the "dog ate my homework" variety, convincing only
to the naive or gullible.

Meanwhile, on the subject of unexplained mysteries, did O.J. ever find
the "real killers?" These insoluble puzzles keep me up at night.

What? You think the "real killers" are the same guys who tampered with
Floyd's urine? Great theory! How'd you like to be on Floyd's PR team?
😉

Bob Dole said:

What? You think the "real killers" are the same guys who tampered with
Floyd's urine? Great theory! How'd you like to be on Floyd's PR team?
😉

Dutch mafia.

Donald Munro said:

Bob Dole said:

What? You think the "real killers" are the same guys who tampered with
Floyd's urine? Great theory! How'd you like to be on Floyd's PR team?
😉

Dutch mafia.

Whaaaat??? Do they make you eat cheese and then stomp you with wooden
shoes?? The Dutch are very nice and their women are fine.

Best,
Bill Black

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Don't be fooled. He's hitting MANY different media opportunities this
week. This is way bigger than "aw shucks Floyd" answering the phone
and agreeing to do the talk shows. All of it is planned. My guess is
his L.A. attorney has hired a publicist for him. He's probably calling
THEM right now.

I'm surprised that nobody has uncovered the real reason Floyd is doing
all of these media appearances: he needs to fill his bank account now
because he won't be earning a living as a cyclist anymore. He's
cashing in on his notariety, and I would hazard a guess that he's
making more bank on the positive dope test than he would have as a
one-time Tour winner.
He knows he's not going to win his case (otherwise he'd have hired a
better lawyer) but he's hoping to win in the court of public opinion.

G.T. said:

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...at work here today. Should I chase him down and grill him?

I do have a syringe for him to autograph.

So far Jay introduced him in his monologue as "a man with too much
testosterone" to pretty positive applause. I didn't hear what joke preceded
that.

That was his intro for Bill Mahr.

yeahyeah said:

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I'm surprised that nobody has uncovered the real reason Floyd is doing
all of these media appearances: he needs to fill his bank account now
because he won't be earning a living as a cyclist anymore. He's
cashing in on his notariety, and I would hazard a guess that he's
making more bank on the positive dope test than he would have as a
one-time Tour winner.
He knows he's not going to win his case (otherwise he'd have hired a
better lawyer) but he's hoping to win in the court of public opinion.

The appearances don't directly impact his bank account. Floyd doesn't
make any money for appearing on tv or radio news shows. And the Tonight
Show pays its guests less than $1000.

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Hahahahahaha, Floyd just ripped Bill Maher a good one, Floyd's definitely
funnier on his toes than Lance.

Either Floyd is one helluvan actor or he has not knowingly used
testosterone. He really seems like he has no idea how his samples showed up
positive. He brought up four possible reasons for the results and he's
leaning towards the fourth of those which is tampering.

Greg

Gee, I wish I coulda seen the Floyd interview. My local Atlanta station
seemed to think that folks would be more interested in Cynthia
McKinney's concession speech. She lost, doesn't that demonstrate lack
of interest? I would think so. Local news has really gone down the tube
with the advent of cable news.

Linda

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Hahahahahaha, Floyd just ripped Bill Maher a good one, Floyd's definitely
funnier on his toes than Lance.

Either Floyd is one helluvan actor or he has not knowingly used
testosterone. He really seems like he has no idea how his samples showed
up
positive. He brought up four possible reasons for the results and he's
leaning towards the fourth of those which is tampering.

Greg

Gee, I wish I coulda seen the Floyd interview. My local Atlanta station
seemed to think that folks would be more interested in Cynthia
McKinney's concession speech. She lost, doesn't that demonstrate lack
of interest? I would think so. Local news has really gone down the tube
with the advent of cable news.

Linda

This may sound strange, but I know a few people who don't own a TV, not
because they can't afford one, they chose not to. I ask them what they do
for entertainment, they read. They don't follow sports.
It makes me wonder what we as sports enthusiast have created in these
athletes. In a Barry Bonds interview he mentioned he was jealous of all the
attention Mark McGwire got when he hit 70 home runs in a season. I hope
this isn't the case with Floyd of Sir Lance. I would have been just as proud
of Landis if he just finished the Tour and didn't make the podium. Aside
from stage 16 and the controversial stage 17, he rode very well.
-tom

yeahyeah said:

Quoted message said:

Don't be fooled. He's hitting MANY different media opportunities this
week. This is way bigger than "aw shucks Floyd" answering the phone
and agreeing to do the talk shows. All of it is planned. My guess is
his L.A. attorney has hired a publicist for him. He's probably calling
THEM right now.

I'm surprised that nobody has uncovered the real reason Floyd is doing
all of these media appearances: he needs to fill his bank account now
because he won't be earning a living as a cyclist anymore. He's
cashing in on his notariety, and I would hazard a guess that he's
making more bank on the positive dope test than he would have as a
one-time Tour winner.
He knows he's not going to win his case (otherwise he'd have hired a
better lawyer) but he's hoping to win in the court of public opinion.

The talk shows and news programs typically do not pay for these
appearances. Well, actually, the talk shows do, but it is just a small
"token fee" mandated by the existing union contracts. If you go on a
TV show, they pay you like $300 (or something in that range). I think
the best he can hope for right now is someone offering him movie or
book rights to his "story". He is not being paid by Phonak, and who
knows about individual sponsorships he has. Let's hope he banked a bit
of money. Sounds like he dropped a dime on his gated community
lifestyle.

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yeahyeah said:

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Don't be fooled. He's hitting MANY different media opportunities this
week. This is way bigger than "aw shucks Floyd" answering the phone
and agreeing to do the talk shows. All of it is planned. My guess is
his L.A. attorney has hired a publicist for him. He's probably calling
THEM right now.

I'm surprised that nobody has uncovered the real reason Floyd is doing
all of these media appearances: he needs to fill his bank account now
because he won't be earning a living as a cyclist anymore. He's
cashing in on his notariety, and I would hazard a guess that he's
making more bank on the positive dope test than he would have as a
one-time Tour winner.
He knows he's not going to win his case (otherwise he'd have hired a
better lawyer) but he's hoping to win in the court of public opinion.

The talk shows and news programs typically do not pay for these
appearances. Well, actually, the talk shows do, but it is just a small
"token fee" mandated by the existing union contracts. If you go on a
TV show, they pay you like $300 (or something in that range). I think
the best he can hope for right now is someone offering him movie or
book rights to his "story". He is not being paid by Phonak, and who
knows about individual sponsorships he has. Let's hope he banked a bit
of money. Sounds like he dropped a dime on his gated community
lifestyle.

He's sure not spending it on the 700 a month apartment he shares with Dave Z
in Spain.

yeahyeah said:

I'm surprised that nobody has uncovered the real reason Floyd is doing
all of these media appearances: he needs to fill his bank account now
because he won't be earning a living as a cyclist anymore. He's
cashing in on his notariety, and I would hazard a guess that he's

And all cheques are made out to the Floyd Landis Foundation.

Doug Taylor said:

On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 16:57:56 -0700, "G.T." <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Either Floyd is one helluvan actor or he has not knowingly used
testosterone. He really seems like he has no idea how his samples showed up
positive. He brought up four possible reasons for the results and he's
leaning towards the fourth of those which is tampering.

His reasons are of the "dog ate my homework" variety, convincing only
to the naive or gullible.

Thanks for the laugh this generated.

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Meanwhile, on the subject of unexplained mysteries, did O.J. ever find
the "real killers?" These insoluble puzzles keep me up at night.

Keith said:

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Meanwhile, on the subject of unexplained mysteries, did O.J. ever find
the "real killers?" These insoluble puzzles keep me up at night.

OJ would have been convicted if they hadn't had a bunch of corrupt
cops manufacturing evidence they didn't need to convict him.

Come to think of it... French labs with their "stellar" reputation...
yeah, it could turn out the same :-)

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Keith said:

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Meanwhile, on the subject of unexplained mysteries, did O.J. ever find
the "real killers?" These insoluble puzzles keep me up at night.

OJ would have been convicted if they hadn't had a bunch of corrupt
cops manufacturing evidence they didn't need to convict him.

Come to think of it... French labs with their "stellar" reputation...
yeah, it could turn out the same :-)

OJ was found guilty of wrongful death by a jury verdict by a preponderance
of the evidence---same standard Landis faces.

In article <[email hidden]>,

- Bob - said:

OJ would have been convicted if they hadn't had a bunch of corrupt
cops manufacturing evidence they didn't need to convict him.

Since we are speaking hypothetically ...

Simpson made a ~30 minute statement to police. This
statement was admissible. It was not used by the
prosecution. Vincent Bugliosi was Los Angeles District
Attorney for some time, and was very good at it. Bugliosi
asserts that basing his case on that statement alone he
could have obtained a guilty verdict against Simpson.

Bugliosi's approach to trying cases is to prepare his case
thoroughly and carefully. He assumes the other attorney is
incompetent, and is seldom wrong. He tells us that the
prosecuting attorney in the Simpson case was incompetent,
and betrayed the people of California. In his book he
devotes one whole chapter to discussing incompetence.

--
Michael Press

In article <[email hidden]>,

Michael Press said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

- Bob - said:

OJ would have been convicted if they hadn't had a bunch of corrupt
cops manufacturing evidence they didn't need to convict him.

Since we are speaking hypothetically ...

Simpson made a ~30 minute statement to police. This
statement was admissible. It was not used by the
prosecution. Vincent Bugliosi was Los Angeles District
Attorney for some time, and was very good at it. Bugliosi
asserts that basing his case on that statement alone he
could have obtained a guilty verdict against Simpson.

Bugliosi's approach to trying cases is to prepare his case
thoroughly and carefully. He assumes the other attorney is
incompetent, and is seldom wrong. He tells us that the
prosecuting attorney in the Simpson case was incompetent,
and betrayed the people of California. In his book he
devotes one whole chapter to discussing incompetence.

District attorney Gil Garcetti was a hack. The guy seemed to be a grandstander
extraordinaire - he micromanaged the case horribly. Besides, what convictions did he
get in any high profile case? Pretty much zero.

--
tanx,
Howard

Never take a tenant with a monkey.

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