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  1. I'm a very infrequent poster here (about once a year!) but a regular reader, and thought someone on
    URW could answer this.

    Whenever I go for a walk at The Roaches, I end up having a pint at the New Inn in Flash. There's a
    sign on the way in to the village welcoming you to "the highest village in Britain" at 1558 ft. I
    don't have anything to compare it against, but is this really true? It just surprises me that the
    highest village would be in the White Peak as opposed to, well, almost anywhere else actually!

  2. Simon said:

    Whenever I go for a walk at The Roaches, I end up having a pint at the New Inn in Flash. There's a
    sign on the way in to the village welcoming you to "the highest village in Britain" at 1558 ft. I
    don't have anything to compare it against, but is this really true? It just surprises me that the
    highest village would be in the White Peak as opposed to, well, almost anywhere else actually!

    Not a definitive answer, but this strikes me as higher than anywhere that springs to mind in
    Scotland. That's about the height of the Drumochter pass, and Dalwhinnie (something of a benchmark
    in desolate sites for a village to my mind) is well down from there. Even in upland areas villages
    tend to be in valleys.

    Pete.
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    Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net [email hidden]
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  3. Simon said:

    I'm a very infrequent poster here (about once a year!) but a regular reader, and thought someone on
    URW could answer this.

    Whenever I go for a walk at The Roaches, I end up having a pint at the New Inn in Flash. There's a
    sign on the way in to the village welcoming you to "the highest village in Britain" at 1558 ft. I
    don't have anything to compare it against, but is this really true? It just surprises me that the
    highest village would be in the White Peak as opposed to, well, almost anywhere else actually!

    I make 1558ft 467m

    Tomintoul in the Cairngorms is at 345m.

    Wanlockhead in Dumfries and Galloway is at 420m

    The usual fount of all knowledge as to the highest whatever is TAC
    --
    Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

  4. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Phil Cook said:
    Simon said:

    I'm a very infrequent poster here (about once a year!) but a regular reader, and thought someone
    on URW could answer this.

    Whenever I go for a walk at The Roaches, I end up having a pint at the New Inn in Flash. There's a
    sign on the way in to the village welcoming you to "the highest village in Britain" at 1558 ft. I
    don't have anything to compare it against, but is this really true? It just surprises me that the
    highest village would be in the White Peak as opposed to, well, almost anywhere else actually!

    I make 1558ft 467m

    Tomintoul in the Cairngorms is at 345m.

    Wanlockhead in Dumfries and Galloway is at 420m

    We're at 200m, and that's considered high and exposed. Which - for the UK - it clearly is.

    Up the hill, Princetown is at up to 450m (how do you assign a spot height to a town that isn't on
    the flat?) and doesn't confront visitors with "highest this or that" signs, though I believe it may
    have some contenders (e.g. highest railway station[disused]?)

    Quoted message said:

    The usual fount of all knowledge as to the highest whatever is TAC

    EXPN TAC?

    --
    Nick Kew

  5. Simon said:

    I'm a very infrequent poster here (about once a year!) but a regular reader, and thought someone
    on URW could answer this.

    Whenever I go for a walk at The Roaches, I end up having a pint at the New Inn in Flash. There's a
    sign on the way in to the village welcoming you to "the highest village in Britain" at 1558 ft. I
    don't have anything to compare it against, but is this really true? It just surprises me that the
    highest village would be in the White Peak as opposed to, well, almost anywhere else actually!

    I think Wanlockhead (sp?) in the borders is the highest.

    Katherine

  6. Quoted message said:

    I think Wanlockhead (sp?) in the borders is the highest.

    Katherine

    I've just Googled Wanlockhead and, according to a local site, it's at 1531 ft, making it the highest
    in Scotland.

    Flash appears to have it so far..........

  7. Simon said:
    Quoted message said:

    I think Wanlockhead (sp?) in the borders is the highest.

    Katherine

    I've just Googled Wanlockhead and, according to a local site, it's at 1531 ft, making it the
    highest in Scotland.

    Flash appears to have it so far..........

    The OS have always maintained that Flash is the highest village -
    ordnancesurvey.co.ukgeofacts look under the Highest Sections.

  8. I think you'll find that Flash is actually 'Dark Peak' rather than White Peak. It's situated on what
    must be the southern most extent of the gritstones on a ridge that extends from the Roaches up
    through Flash, Axe Edge, Burbage and Black Edges on the outskirts of Buxton. Immediately to the
    south of this is limestone.

    "Simon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm a very infrequent poster here (about once a year!) but a regular


    reader,

    Quoted message said:

    and thought someone on URW could answer this.

    Whenever I go for a walk at The Roaches, I end up having a pint at the New Inn in Flash. There's a
    sign on the way in to the village welcoming you to "the highest village in Britain" at 1558 ft. I
    don't have anything to compare it against, but is this really true? It just surprises me that the
    highest village would be in the White Peak as opposed to, well, almost anywhere else actually!

  9. In article <[email hidden]>, Nick Kew <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The usual fount of all knowledge as to the highest whatever is TAC

    EXPN TAC?

    The Angry Corrie - bubl.ac.uktac

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    dscs.demon.co.ukdscs.demon.co.uk

  10. "Andrew W" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I think you'll find that Flash is actually 'Dark Peak' rather than White Peak. It's situated on
    what must be the southern most extent of the gritstones

    Not quite right - the gritstone actually goes to the SE of Leek, just about the Churnett Valley.

  11. On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 11:32:58 +0000, Peter Clinch
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Its higher than any other i can think of.

    There is something cute about the highest something being in Staffordshire.

    Nenthead, Cumberland ,must run it close. Wanlockhead is definitely a little lower but at least is in
    a Glen, so most daysfrom there finish with a downhill. Catching a bus at Flash was always a cruel
    end to a day

    Richard Webb

  12. Quoted message said:

    I think Wanlockhead (sp?) in the borders is the highest.

    Flash pips it by about 30m... Wanlockhead is Scotland's highest. The pubs gone though, but there is
    a high pub over in Leadhills, next door

    Richard Webb

  13. On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 19:44:35 -0000, "Rifleman" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    "Andrew W" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I think you'll find that Flash is actually 'Dark Peak' rather than White Peak. It's situated on
    what must be the southern most extent of the gritstones

    Not quite right - the gritstone actually goes to the SE of Leek, just about the Churnett Valley.

    True, and Stanton Lees quarry and Nine Ladies Circle, which have been "in the news" recently are in
    an area of gritstone which is also quite far south in the Peak (a couple of miles from me in the
    south White Peak).
    --
    Paul Lydon Winster, Derbyshire, UK

  14. "Chris Street" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    The OS have always maintained that Flash is the highest village -
    ordnancesurvey.co.ukgeofacts look under the Highest Sections.

    Thanks for providing that link, I've been looking for a site listing the geographical extremes of
    the UK for ages! Just out of interest, the OS site only shows the longest rivers in each country,
    does anyone know of an on-line source listing, say, the top twenty?

    Paul
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  15. "Paul Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    "Chris Street" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    The OS have always maintained that Flash is the highest village -
    ordnancesurvey.co.ukgeofacts look under the Highest Sections.

    Thanks for providing that link, I've been looking for a site listing the geographical extremes of
    the UK for ages! Just out of interest, the OS


    site

    Quoted message said:

    only shows the longest rivers in each country, does anyone know of an on-line source listing, say,
    the top twenty?

    Paul
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    Err - surely they've got the other bit wrong tho - i.e. Highest points for isolated buildings - No
    Snowdon Cafe, Ptarmigan Restaurant or even Cairngorm Weather Station.

    druidh

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    from "druidh" <[email hidden]> contains these words:

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    Err - surely they've got the other bit wrong tho - i.e. Highest points for isolated buildings - No
    Snowdon Cafe, Ptarmigan Restaurant or even Cairngorm Weather Station.

    I haven't had a look at the site so may be wrong but the thing that immediately strikes me about the
    Snowdon Cafe is that it is not occupied permanently and that might apply also to the Ptarmigan.
    AFASIK the weather centre is not occupied at all.

    The highest occupied building in the country used to be the Ben Nevis Observatory.

    --

    Roger

  17. "Roger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    The message <[email hidden]> from "druidh"
    <[email hidden]> contains these words:

    Quoted message said:

    Err - surely they've got the other bit wrong tho - i.e. Highest points


    for

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    isolated buildings - No Snowdon Cafe, Ptarmigan Restaurant or even


    Cairngorm

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Weather Station.

    I haven't had a look at the site so may be wrong but the thing that immediately strikes me about
    the Snowdon Cafe is that it is not occupied permanently and that might apply also to the
    Ptarmigan. AFASIK the weather centre is not occupied at all.

    The highest occupied building in the country used to be the Ben Nevis Observatory.

    --


    aha - but the site just mentions isolated buildings - not "dwellings"

    druidh

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    from "druidh" <[email hidden]> contains these words:

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    aha - but the site just mentions isolated buildings - not "dwellings"

    Perhaps you should make them aware of their mistake then. They get far too much of our money to be
    allowed to get away with such sloppy reporting.

    The last time I was there (late 80s) there was still a building (the emergency shelter) on the
    summit of Ben Nevis. Has that now gone the same way as the high level shelters in the Cairngorms,
    destroyed by a PC ethos that would rather deny shelter to those in extremis than allow any hint that
    they have encouraged the feckless to risk their lives in any way.

    --

    Roger

  19. On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 08:55:59 GMT, Roger <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    The last time I was there (late 80s) there was still a building (the emergency shelter) on the
    summit of Ben Nevis. Has that now gone the same way as the high level shelters in the Cairngorms

    Still there. They've removed the one at the top of No 4 Gully, since it was falling to pieces and in
    any case was usually covered by snow in the winter.

  20. In article <[email hidden]>, druidh
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Regarding ordnancesurvey.co.ukgeofacts

    Quoted message said:

    "Roger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    The message <[email hidden]> from "druidh"
    <[email hidden]> contains these words:

    Quoted message said:

    Err - surely they've got the other bit wrong tho - i.e. Highest points


    for

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    isolated buildings - No Snowdon Cafe, Ptarmigan Restaurant or even


    Cairngorm

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Weather Station.

    I haven't had a look at the site so may be wrong but the thing that immediately strikes me about
    the Snowdon Cafe is that it is not occupied permanently and that might apply also to the
    Ptarmigan. AFASIK the weather centre is not occupied at all.

    The highest occupied building in the country used to be the Ben Nevis Observatory.

    --


    aha - but the site just mentions isolated buildings - not "dwellings"


    Aha - but it also has the word "settlement" at the top of the column ;-)

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