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  1. Well last night was the last hockey practise of the year but
    unfortunately the pitch was iced over so we couldn't play. However not
    to be daunted by the situation and having an empty carpark we decided
    that this would be the ideal time to test the Flaming Ball prior to the
    flaming hockey after our winter warmer tournament - what an absolute
    blast and here's the evidence - we used a monkey fist knot made from
    fire rope and a good quantity of parafin

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    Hopefully this is all the incentive that is needed for people to come
    to the tournament on 20th January - I'll insert a link to the thread
    later

    Roland

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  2. I like the long exposure pictures of the puck in motion.

    But lofting the flaming puck during a game is a no-no. The flaming
    puck needs to stay on the ground during a game for the safety of the
    players.

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  3. john_childs said:

    I like the long exposure pictures of the puck in motion.

    But lofting the flaming puck during a game is a no-no. The flaming
    puck needs to stay on the ground during a game for the safety of the
    players.

    Thats very true we we more having a knock around to test the puck and
    to see what was possible - we will be banning lifting / lofting of the
    puck/ball at the winter warmer as I for one don't fancy a flaming puck
    in the face - for any one trying it would be worth mentioning that we
    had two fire extinguishers close at hand and will in future be making
    sure we have a large container of water and a fire blanket just in
    case. Additionally we had two specatators ready to pounce in an
    emergency - whilst it is fun its worth remembering that fire is
    dangerous and safety has to be the number one concern.

    We have Tom our resident photographer to thank for the long exposures

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  4. john_childs said:

    I like the long exposure pictures of the puck in motion.

    But lofting the flaming puck during a game is a no-no. The flaming
    puck needs to stay on the ground during a game for the safety of the
    players.

    But lofting is what makes it make the wicked whoosh noises best, and
    air-shots and handing it down are super-fun. As long as people aren't
    wearing plastic clothes, then fire hitting you isn't too bad. In the
    attached picture, I'm repeatedly twisting fire poi round myself, this
    was okay for about 5 minutes. The flaming puck never touches you for
    anywhere near as long.

    Joe the pyromaniac

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  5. I really need to learn the monkey fist knot

    Nice pics , i like those long exposures

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  6. dan de man said:

    I really need to learn the monkey fist knot

    [image: http://www.homeofpoi.com/images/poi/monkeyfist_large.gif]

    The little piece of wire sticking out the middle is to attatch it to
    chains. You don't actually need to put anything in the centre to tie
    the knot, but it helps add weight to the knot. Soaking the wick in fuel
    will make it heavier, of course.

    [image:
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    Lifted from the 'The home of poi'
    (http://www.homeofpoi.com/articles/monkey_fist.php)

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  7. dan de man said:

    I really need to learn the monkey fist knot

    I was just thinking the same thing. 'Here's the first thing I found on
    google.' (http://www.realknots.com/knots/faqknot.htm)

    While I definitely can't fly to the UK Jan. 20, you have convinced me
    to try and set up a game here in Richmond. Thanks for the awesome
    pics.

    edit: Beat me to it

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  8. Our monkey fist is made with 14mm kevlar rope, nothing in the middle.
    With that thick rope it doesn't need it, and is at least as heavy as
    you want for hockey.

    In this test game, the end was just cut, not tied in, it would probably
    be sensible to splice the ends together using kevlar thread, as towards
    the end, the rope did undo slightly and it doesn't roll so well then.

    Joe

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  9. well that is cool i wish the hockey games around here would do this but
    i can see alot of people chickening out as soon as i pull out a fire
    ball to play with lol

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  10. we did that with a furry green soccer ball, it was a blast. yet we had
    no safety equiptment.. 🙁

    Those photos are awsome

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  11. roland said:

    Well last night was the last _-hockey-_ practise of the year but
    unfortunately the pitch was _-iced_over_-_so we couldn't play.

    irony much?

    looks like alot of fun, i wish there was a group of people around here
    who played uni hockey.

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  12. roland said:

    Thats very true we we more having a knock around to test the puck and to
    see what was possible - we will be banning lifting / lofting of the
    puck/ball at the winter warmer as I for one don't fancy a flaming puck
    in the face - for any one trying it would be worth mentioning that we
    had two fire extinguishers close at hand and will in future be making
    sure we have a large container of water and a fire blanket just in
    case. Additionally we had two specatators ready to pounce in an
    emergency - whilst it is fun its worth remembering that fire is
    dangerous and safety has to be the number one concern.

    We have Tom our resident photographer to thank for the long exposures

    I mentioned the lofting mainly for the young pyros here who may get
    some ideas of trying some flaming puck hockey on their own. Kids can
    get some foolish ideas when it comes to playing with fire. For safety
    sake it is a good idea to make a rule that the puck has to stay on the
    ground during the game. I've played flaming puck hockey with Darren
    Bedford and that's the rule he has.

    For getting the long exposure photos the lofting looks really nice. I
    really like those photos.

    Darren uses a flat ribbon style of wick in a monkey fist style of ball.
    Then drills two holes through and puts two long bolts with big washers
    through to hold it all together.

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  13. joemarshall said:

    But lofting is what makes it make the wicked whoosh noises best, and
    air-shots and handing it down are super-fun. As long as people aren't
    wearing plastic clothes, then fire hitting you isn't too bad. In the
    attached picture, I'm repeatedly twisting fire poi round myself, this
    was okay for about 5 minutes. The flaming puck never touches you for
    anywhere near as long.

    Joe the pyromaniac

    Most of the time if the puck happened to hit you you'd be fine as long
    as you're wearing sensible clothing. The problem comes with the other
    times.

    When playing with Darren the puck starts out very heavy with fuel. The
    first hit of the puck leaves flaming fuel splashed on the blade of the
    hockey stick. There is a short trail of flame left on the ground from
    where the puck was hit. If the puck is heavy with fuel like that and
    hits someone hard it could splash fuel on them. That would not be
    good. So that's the reason for keeping the puck on the ground.

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  14. How do you take photos like that? 😕

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  15. john_childs said:


    Darren uses a flat ribbon style of wick in a monkey fist style of ball.
    Then drills two holes through and puts two long bolts with big washers
    through to hold it all together.

    Be weary of the bolts - Getting hit with flaming wicking is not
    ussually a problem. Getting hit with any metal parts after they have
    heated up is painful (and very, very hot).

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  16. john_childs said:

    I mentioned the lofting mainly for the young pyros here who may get some
    ideas of trying some flaming puck hockey on their own. Kids can get
    some foolish ideas when it comes to playing with fire. For safety sake
    it is a good idea to make a rule that the puck has to stay on the
    ground during the game. I've played flaming puck hockey with Darren
    Bedford and that's the rule he has.

    For getting the long exposure photos the lofting looks really nice. I
    really like those photos.

    Darren uses a flat ribbon style of wick in a monkey fist style of ball.
    Then drills two holes through and puts two long bolts with big washers
    through to hold it all together.

    You're absolutely right John, I should have stressed the precautions
    we'd taken in the first post, as you say there is a risk but done
    sensibly and with the correct precautions this can be minimised so the
    no Lofting rules makes a lot of sense as does fire extinguishers and
    fire blankets close at hand.

    Roland

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  17. Greetings fire bugs !

    Here is a little history and instruction on the game of flaming puck
    hockey and the puck itself.

    I have had many requests lately inquiring about how I created and make
    the "Bedford Ball of Fire" used to play "flaming puck hockey" so I am
    here to let people know about it and how to make one of your own so you
    and your friends can give it a try.

    I first invented the puck and game of Flaming puck hockey about 7 years
    ago.
    Since then it has been played at the 2001, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006
    National Unicycle conventions. 2002 was also a UNICON year and they
    happened back to back in WA USA.

    It was a big hit at every convention and will be again in 2007 at the
    NAUCC at the end of July in Saline MI !!! Can't wait ! Check their
    wedsite for more details at www.naucc2007.com

    The way I would like to see the game played worldwide, at least for
    safety sake, would be with these few safety rules:

    1. The "puck" MUST be kept on the ground at all times !
    (It will deflect and become airbourne at times so always keep your eyes
    on the puck.)

    2. The "nets" should be boxes about 12"/30cm high - 12"/30cm deep -
    18"/45cm wide.
    (I have been using plastic crates that fold up for the last 7 years. I
    have to replace them a couple times a year mostly from riders hitting,
    falling on or riding into them and breaking them. Do not use full size
    hockey nets with a net backing or wooden crates.)

    3. There should be NO goalie and no ideling in front of the net.
    (That way no one should ever be shot directly at with the ball of
    fire.
    With the small nets, no goalie and no ideling, everyone should be much
    safer and it is still fairly hard to score.)

    "RINK" notes:

    The outer boundry should be marked on the ground with a center line
    dividing both halves.
    You can use chalk as it isn't permanent and washes away with water.
    The "nets" should be about 3 feet in from the ends. The size of the
    rink should be at least 30'x60'. The rink size usually depends on what
    we can find at the conventions.
    Whoever shots the puck out of the "rink", the other team brings it in
    from the point where it left.

    Lighting the "PUCK":

    There should be a person in charge of lighting the puck and shooting it
    in.
    It should not be someone playing the game.

    IMPORTANT NOTES !!!

    The fuel used should be camping fuel, NEVER GASOLINE !!!
    You can mix it 60% camping fuel with 40% BBQ starter fluid for a longer
    brighter burn time.

    You should have a large neck metal can to soak the puck in.
    Fill the can and drop the puck in to soak until the air bubbles stop.

    You MUSH use metal BBQ tongs to lift the soaked puck out of the can of
    fuel.
    NEVER USE YOUR HANDS.
    Your hands will catch on fire if you get any fuel on them !

    You MUST use a BBQ igniter to light the puck.
    NEVER USE A LIGHTER OR MATCHES.
    The flame that comes off the puck is huge and lights really fast.
    You will be burnt if you don't use a BBQ igniter !

    I know from experience about the above two notes !!!!!
    I got burnt, and it hurt ! ...but only once !

    PLACEMENT of CAN OF FUEL:
    The can of fuel should be about 4' from where you light the puck.
    Remove the puck with the tongs, place it about 4 feet away and then
    light the puck with the BBQ igniter. Keep the igniter in the same spot
    away from the fuel where you light the puck.

    The reason for doing it this way is to prevent the fumes that come off
    the fuel from being ignited. They are very combustable ! The can can
    catch on fire if it is too close to the puck when you light it.

    Again, I know this from experience.

    FIRST SHOT of the puck:
    The first shot MUST be a hard shot to make sure the puck sprays off the
    fuel on the outer edges of the puck. If not the fuel will spray the
    unicyclists and cause bad burns. If you don't get the fuel out of the
    outer edges of the puck, it will cause the stick blades to catch on
    fire. (See notes about sticks below.)
    The first shot should be along the center line without interference
    from the players until the huge ball of fire dies down a little.
    Usually within about 30' or so.
    The shooter should also have his own stick.

    Flaming puck HOCKEY STICKS

    You should ONLY use plastic blades. NEVER use wooded blades.
    The wooden blades will catch on fire as the fuel soaks in from shooting
    the puck. Wooden blades are also a hazzard to other riders who ride
    over them.
    Wooden blades break easily when you ride over them. Plastic ones just
    bend.
    Sometime the pastic blades catch on fire too so watch out.

    Additional notes:

    Flaming puck hockey is a lot of fun to play, but it can be dangerous
    too.
    Always pay attention no matter if you are playing or watching the
    game.
    Always keep the game under control and don't get too aggressive.
    Never play where the puck leaving the rink can cause something to catch
    on fire like grass, leaves, cars, your little sister, etc

    VERY IMPORTANT NOTE:
    ALWAYS HAVE A FIRE EXTINGUISHER ON HAND JUST IN CASE !!!

    I have never had a real problem and I don't want anyone else to ever
    have a problem either !!! (except the burn hand when figuing out the
    fuel / lighter issue the very first time.)
    PLAY SAFE !!!

    NEVER SEEN THE GAME... or want to see a great video...

    To see an awesome video of the game at the 2003 National Unicycle meet
    in MN USA, go to:

    www.thedan.com

    Look for the video in THE DAN'S gallery. IT ROCKS ! ...and so does Dan
    !

    You will also see the FLAMING UNICYCLE in the same video !!!
    NOT RECOMMENDED AT ALL !!! That was scary stuff !

    (Check out some other outstanding videos by Dan while you are there
    too.
    Here are my recommedations: His Music video, Le Goat, Jack's Addiction,
    Mamma's gone Banana's, etc...)

    If you want to see another sweet flaming puck video, you will have to
    get a a copy of the 2006 NAUCC CONVENTION DVD by Brian MacKenzie.

    HOW TO MAKE A FLAMING UNICYCLE HOCKEY PUCK !

    What it's made of:

    You will need some juggling torch wick. Most likey about a metre should
    be enough.
    You will need 4 aluminum fasteners. (I will find out their proper name
    and length and post the info soon.)

    1. Cut the torch wick into two pieces the same size.

    2. Start with the two pieces on a 90 degree angle with both ends
    together forming a corner.
    Pull one piece back and wrap it over the top of the other piece about
    half way.

    3. Start wrapping the wick over one another, one fold at a time.
    You will see a cude starting to be formed.

    4. Keep wrapping until the wick makes a perfect square.
    Make sure you wrap it really tight as the layers build up.
    Whatever the width of the wick is will determine the cube size.
    (I will get the wick width too and post it soon.)

    5. Once the cube is completed, cut the last piece about a half wrap
    longer and wrap it under and tuck it in so there is no cut end
    exposed.

    6. This is the hard part... You need to pierce the puck all the way
    through all layers so that you can get the 4 aluminum fasteners all the
    way through to hold the puck together.

    I use a metal scriber, thin steel rod with a point and handle, to start
    the hole then use another larger diameter rod to open the hole a little
    further. It is hard and takes a lot of time to make the puck. Usually
    end up with blisters from making it.

    7. Once the hole is open, you need to get the fastener all the way
    through the hole and get the screw in the other end to hold them
    together. All 4 fasteners need to be installed.

    Once it is build, it lasts a long time. (I guess that depends on how
    often you use it.)

    There are no sharp edges or points or any metal that will burn you so
    don't worry about that.
    (Don't be stupid and pick up a puck that just went out either !!!)

    NOTE: You really should have two pucks so one can be re-lite and put
    back into play after the first puck goes out. If not there is a little
    delay in re-lighting the puck.

    Make sure you keep an eye on the puck after it goes out so you can find
    it.
    Make sure you send the puck that is out back to the shooter before the
    next puck is put into play or you may never find it. A black puck in
    the dark is had to find !

    If you have any other questions about the game, let me know and I will
    be happy to answer them for you.

    Enjoy the ride,
    Darren

    www.bedfordunicycles.ca

    P.S. Post your comments on THEDAN.CON's flaming puck video here too
    !!!
    Thank you !

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