In a long drawn out series of negotiations, it is increasingly likely that I will be offered first refusal on a fixie.
It's not your usual hack but a genuine 1947 Bates B.A.R (best all rounder) which, to the best of my knowledge, has done little more than a 1000 miles in the past 25 years. It has a flip flop rear wheel and is in sound condition though the frame would benefit from being restoved to restore its sheen. It's still with its original purchaser who can no longer use it due to detriorating knee and hip joints.
In a long drawn out series of negotiations, it is increasingly likely that I will be offered first refusal on a fixie.
It's not your usual hack but a genuine 1947 Bates B.A.R (best all rounder) which, to the best of my knowledge, has done little more than a 1000 miles in the past 25 years. It has a flip flop rear wheel and is in sound condition though the frame would benefit from being restoved to restore its sheen. It's still with its original purchaser who can no longer use it due to detriorating knee and hip joints.
Any ideas what would be a fair price to offer?
unless it's terrible a repaint will probably reduce it's value -- --- Marten Gerritsen
IRTA "pixie question" and it called to mind a dispute on Wikipedia, where user CyclePat is determined to keep creating new articles on the motorized bicycle with every increasing levels of triviality until he finally gets one where the fitting of a "pixie" motor to the Light Delivery bicycle by Canada Cycle and Motor is counted in...
In a long drawn out series of negotiations, it is increasingly likely that I will be offered first refusal on a fixie.
It's not your usual hack but a genuine 1947 Bates B.A.R (best all rounder) which, to the best of my knowledge, has done little more than a 1000 miles in the past 25 years. It has a flip flop rear wheel and is in sound condition though the frame would benefit from being restoved to restore its sheen. It's still with its original purchaser who can no longer use it due to detriorating knee and hip joints.
Any ideas what would be a fair price to offer?
A quick look at the small ads in the latest News & Views [1] seems to suggest that the going rate for *restored* bikes of this age & quality (no Bates [2] in the N&V I looked at but there were 'curly' Hetchins and Baines 'Flying Gates'😉 to be around the £300 to £350 mark. I didn't see anything directly comparable in unrestored condition, but there were a number of good unrestored lightweights at £100/£120/£150.
[1] Veteran-Cycle Club magazine [2] Well, there was one, but it was 1978 - mind you, it was £350 too -- Andrew
In a long drawn out series of negotiations, it is increasingly likely that I will be offered first refusal on a fixie.
It's not your usual hack but a genuine 1947 Bates B.A.R (best all rounder) which, to the best of my knowledge, has done little more than a 1000 miles in the past 25 years. It has a flip flop rear wheel and is in sound condition though the frame would benefit from being restoved to restore its sheen. It's still with its original purchaser who can no longer use it due to detriorating knee and hip joints.
Any ideas what would be a fair price to offer?
unless it's terrible a repaint will probably reduce it's value
As we're only talking a few hundred quid (it isn't a Ferrari 250 GTO) I'd treat it to the respray it deserves. Reproduction decals are available for all the famous makes.
A quick look at the small ads in the latest News & Views [1] seems to suggest that the going rate for *restored* bikes of this age & quality (no Bates [2] in the N&V I looked at but there were 'curly' Hetchins and Baines 'Flying Gates'😉 to be around the £300 to £350 mark. I didn't see anything directly comparable in unrestored condition, but there were a number of good unrestored lightweights at £100/£120/£150.
[1] Veteran-Cycle Club magazine [2] Well, there was one, but it was 1978 - mind you, it was £350 too --
Had a peek at the web site of of the club and am now fighting the urge to join it. I'm surprised at the prices quoted above as they are well adrift of the astronomical prices I've seen on Ebay. A TJ Hughes 'Flying Gate' replica frame is £300+ . I must resist...I must resist......
The situation is reflected in the vintage stationary engine world where my £35 Lister would triple in value.
Still none the wiser as to what a fair price to offer for the Bates would be though.
