Fitness thru cycling

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BTW : Normally serious cyclists are thin/skinny, but the other day I saw a fat club cyclist
obviously rather good!!

Wasnt me was it :-p

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Hi, I've sadly put on weight. What kind of daily distance do I need to do, to start bringing my
weight down? Any one succeeded?

The only time I have managed to lose weight was when not cycling. Cycling long distances makes you
very very hungry. I believe that your body has very effective calorie counters that make what you
are attempting to do difficult.

You still have to eat less than your hunger tells you to, although the good bit is that the absolute
quantity is larger.

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Hi, I've sadly put on weight. What kind of daily distance do I need to do, to start bringing my
weight down? Any one succeeded?

In another thread I worked out that the 5000 miles a year I cycle burns up nearly 3 stones of fat.
I also watch my diet - I don't eat takeaways, pies, pastries, biscuits, chocolate etc, mainly lean
meat, pastas, rice and breads and fruit +veg. I believe the cycling helps enormously in keeping my
weight down.

Simon

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Hi, I've sadly put on weight. What kind of daily distance do I need to do, to start bringing my
weight down? Any one succeeded?

Yes. I lost 10 kg in 6 weeks by cycling about 1250 km on a tour of India.

Its mostly gone back on again :~(

If you burn about 3500 calories (IIRC) you loose about 0.5 kg.

It depends how you ride but an hour's ride might win you 500 cals.

Cycling alone is not enough. Its all about the balance between food in and enregy out.

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BTW : Normally serious cyclists are thin/skinny, but the other day I saw a fat club cyclist
obviously rather good!!

There are plenty of us about.

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Hi, I've sadly put on weight. What kind of daily distance do I need to do, to start bringing my
weight down? Any one succeeded?

In another thread I worked out that the 5000 miles a year I cycle burns

up

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nearly 3 stones of fat. I also watch my diet - I don't eat takeaways,

pies,

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pastries, biscuits, chocolate etc, mainly lean meat, pastas, rice and

breads

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and fruit +veg. I believe the cycling helps enormously in keeping my

weight

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down.

I also watch my diet, I just eat takeaways, pies, pastries, biscuits, chocolate etc

A few lagers to wash it all down ... mmm .. I love life 🙂

zzapper said:

BTW : Normally serious cyclists are thin/skinny, but the other day I saw a fat club cyclist
obviously rather good!!

I thought you ment me until you got to the good bit!

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I also watch my diet, I just eat takeaways, pies, pastries, biscuits, chocolate etc

A few lagers to wash it all down ... mmm .. I love life 🙂

That's OK as long as you cycle enough to burn all those calories from the fatty food - I can't do
it. Even doing 5000 miles is just enough to keep my weight stable at 12.5 stone (OK I could give up
beer but life wouldn't be worth living :-) I'm not actually losing any weight.

So if I ate fatty foods, I'd put weight on unless I increased my mileage to 6 - 7000 miles a year
to compensate - which I'm not sure I could do. I've always reckoned that it's far easier not to eat
1000 Calories than it is to burn it off.

Simon

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I also watch my diet, I just eat takeaways, pies, pastries, biscuits, chocolate etc

A few lagers to wash it all down ... mmm .. I love life 🙂

That's OK as long as you cycle enough to burn all those calories from the
fatty food - I can't do it. Even doing 5000 miles is just enough to keep

my

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weight stable at 12.5 stone (OK I could give up beer but life wouldn't be worth living :-) I'm not
actually losing any weight.

So if I ate fatty foods, I'd put weight on unless I increased my mileage

to

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6 - 7000 miles a year to compensate - which I'm not sure I could do. I've always reckoned that
it's far easier not to eat 1000 Calories than it is

to

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burn it off.

Well, I already did have quite a weight before I started. I haven't really noticed a lot of weight
coming off, but i have seen a lot of conversion to muscle. I don't mind being 14-15 stone, if I
don't have a spare tyre ...

Still, I'm not missing out on the good things of life. I found that having too many curries over the
years has put me off them, I cannot understand people who pay for delivery pizzas ........ mmm, Thai
food on the other hand .......

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So if I ate fatty foods, I'd put weight on unless I increased my mileage

to

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6 - 7000 miles a year to compensate - which I'm not sure I could do.

You see, I'm not convinced on that one. If I eat fatty foods, it cuts the appetite better. If I eat
carrots or apples, I end up still nibbling all night long.

Obviously far far easier to go past the appetite barrier (ie I stuff myself) with fatty foods.

For the record - I am a bit overweight but usually constant - whether I'm doing 200 miles or 0
miles a week.

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I also watch my diet, I just eat takeaways, pies, pastries, biscuits, chocolate etc

A few lagers to wash it all down ... mmm .. I love life 🙂

That's OK as long as you cycle enough to burn all those calories from

the

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fatty food - I can't do it. Even doing 5000 miles is just enough to keep

my

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weight stable at 12.5 stone (OK I could give up beer but life wouldn't

be

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worth living :-) I'm not actually losing any weight.

So if I ate fatty foods, I'd put weight on unless I increased my

mileage

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to

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6 - 7000 miles a year to compensate - which I'm not sure I could do.

I've

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always reckoned that it's far easier not to eat 1000 Calories than it is

to

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burn it off.

Well, I already did have quite a weight before I started. I haven't really noticed a lot of weight
coming off, but i have seen a lot of conversion to muscle. I don't mind being 14-15 stone, if I
don't have a spare tyre ...

Yes, you're right about the weight - I was 10.5 stone at 21 but haven't put on 2 stone of fat in
the last 25 years. It's better to go on waist size to get an idea of the fat, or get it measured by
the calliper technique or stand on one of those electronic fat monitors at sports centres. Simon

1. You may have put on weight, but are you actually overweight for you age/height?

2. Assuming you are overweight, the only way to lose weight is calories in need to be less than
calories out.

3. Even though you could do 2 above by eating nothing but Mars bars - it's much healthier and more
interesting esting to do it following principles of healthy eating. Lots of fruit, veg, low-fat
and *lean* meats & fish.

4. I'm in the process of doing the above and for self-discipline I go to the doc's once a fortnight
& the nurse weighs me. I *need* the discipline of getting on the scales! This last fortnight
lost 2 kilos.

5. Don't "diet" - think long-term healthy lifestyle.

Best of luck, helen s (fatbirdonabike heading to be slightlypodgybirdonabike)

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So if I ate fatty foods, I'd put weight on unless I increased my

mileage

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to

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6 - 7000 miles a year to compensate - which I'm not sure I could do.

You see, I'm not convinced on that one. If I eat fatty foods, it cuts the appetite better. If I
eat carrots or apples, I end up still nibbling all night long.

Obviously far far easier to go past the appetite barrier (ie I stuff

myself)

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with fatty foods.

For the record - I am a bit overweight but usually constant - whether I'm doing 200 miles or 0
miles a week.

I find I'm satiated with lean protein like steak, pork, turkey, chicken and tuna with a bit of
bread. Simon

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steak, pork, turkey, chicken and tuna with a bit of bread.

mmmm.

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Hi, I've sadly put on weight. What kind of daily distance do I need to do, to start bringing my
weight down? Any one succeeded?

My experience is you don't get lighter through cycling, but you get a lot fitter so you no longer
look flabbly or feel awful. Furthermore, you _do_ get thinner (in most places). It's just that
muscle weighs more than flab.

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3. Even though you could do 2 above by eating nothing but Mars bars - it's much healthier and more
interesting esting to do it following principles of healthy eating. Lots of fruit, veg, low-fat
and *lean* meats & fish.

Or more precisely, a moderate amount of the above! Lots of it will be more than you need...

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4. I'm in the process of doing the above and for self-discipline I go to the doc's once a
fortnight & the nurse weighs me. I *need* the discipline of getting on the scales! This last
fortnight lost 2 kilos.

Good work. I lost about 6 Kg over September through a slight increase in exercise and a major
reduction in food intake, though I made very sure there was still plenty of fibre, vitamins, protein
etc. for general "housekeeping" and some fat anyway as AIUI that helps the body metabolise the rest.

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5. Don't "diet" - think long-term healthy lifestyle.

My major diet above was for a general trim up before embarking on the longer term lifestyle thingy.
There's no point in losing it just to put it back on, so longer term thinking is indeed essential.
But I do find the Big Diet approach with fast results is psychologically good: I tried and failed on
numerous occasions to go for longer term gentle reduction, but by biting the bullet and getting
*very* strict I got results that are encouraging enough to keep me a Good Boy. My main enemy for
weight loss is snacking, and I found it easier to cut it out 100% than just to reduce it.

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Simon Mason said:

I find I'm satiated with lean protein like steak, pork, turkey, chicken and tuna with a bit of
bread. Simon

Not all in the same meal, I trust?

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Thnx for all the replies, I was hoping that someone might however suggest a realistic program eg x
kms per day etc.

Sadly I love pies!!

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Hi, I've sadly put on weight. What kind of daily distance do I need to do, to start bringing my
weight down? Any one succeeded?

The only time I have managed to lose weight was when not cycling. Cycling long distances makes you
very very hungry. I believe that your body has very effective calorie counters that make what you
are attempting to do difficult.

You still have to eat less than your hunger tells you to, although the good bit is that the
absolute quantity is larger.

Cycling long distances will indeed cause you to eat more in order to replace the extra energy you
have used. However, you will also become fitter which means your body becomes more efficient at
metabolising food (or fat) into energy, so less of it ends up as surplus.

Increasing your fitness level is not simply about the number of miles
- it also depends on your speed. A good way to start would be to decide how much time you have
available each day and then do as many miles as you can in that time. You can then measure your
fitness level by counting the number of miles.