Fisher frame size from serial number?

Fisher does indeed measure center-top
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Ya got your money from him, right?

-kurd

"Geoff" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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I recently sold a Gary Fisher frame on Ebay and the buyer is disputing the frame size as I listed
it (I believe he is measuring the frame center-center instead of center-top). The only proof I
have that the frame size is indeed the size I listed is a bill of sale with the serial number of
the frame (although the bill of sale does indicate the size I stated in the auction). Does anyone
know if I can demonstrate the size of the frame from the serial number?

Thanks,

Geoff

Kurd said:

Fisher does indeed measure center-top
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Ya got your money from him, right?

-kurd

Yeah - I got the money from him. I'm just concerned that he may try and make a stink about me
alledgedly misrepresenting the frame size in the auction listing. He says that both he and "a bike
shop manager" measured the frame and arrived at a medium size (17.5"😉 as opposed to the large (19"😉
size I stated in the listing. My bill of sale clearly says that the frame size is a Large (I also
measured the frame prior to listing). I just want to cover my bases since I don't have a way of
demonstrating the frame size since I no longer possess the frame.

On a related note, does anyone know if the center-center measurement of a Large Gary Fisher Marlin
frame is 17.5"?

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Originally posted by Geoff

BKurd said:

Fisher does indeed measure center-top
fisherbikes.comsizing.aspOpen ↗

Ya got your money from him, right?

-kurd

Yeah - I got the money from him. I'm just concerned that he may try and make a stink about me
alledgedly misrepresenting the frame size in the auction listing. He says that both he and "a bike
shop manager" measured the frame and arrived at a medium size (17.5"😉 as opposed to the large (19"😉
size I stated in the listing. My bill of sale clearly says that the frame size is a Large (I also
measured the frame prior to listing). I just want to cover my bases since I don't have a way of
demonstrating the frame size since I no longer possess the frame.

On a related note, does anyone know if the center-center measurement of a Large Gary Fisher Marlin
frame is 17.5"? [/B]

Large is the size 19" c-t and Medium is 17.5" - unless that bike has a 3" diameter top tube there's no way the difference between c-c and c-t will explain it.

http://www.fisherbikes.com/bikes/sizing.asp?series=genesis&bike=Marlin

You didn't say what the serial number is - some manufacturers include the frame size in the serial number... worth a check. Also you could go to your local Fisher dealer and take some measurements of both sizes of frame. I think you're on good footing with the sales receipt, but this guy could make a stink on your eBay seller's rating.

DiabloScott said:

Large is the size 19" c-t and Medium is 17.5" - unless that bike has a 3" diameter top tube
there's no way the difference between c-c and c-t will explain it.

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You didn't say what the serial number is - some manufacturers include the frame size in the serial
number... worth a check. Also you could go to your local Fisher dealer and take some measurements
of both sizes of frame. I think you're on good footing with the sales receipt, but this guy could
make a stink on your eBay seller's rating.

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Thanks for your input. I considered going to my local Fisher dealer and taking some measurements,
not sure what the proper etiquette is though.

The seat tube does extend some distance above the top tube; maybe half the top tube diameter + the
seat tube extension would explain the 1.5" difference.

I did look for any obvious relationship between the serial number and the frame size and didn't
notice any.

I emailed Fisher regarding the serial number and have yet to hear a response. I'm not sure how
responsive Fisher is, but hopefully I'll get an answer either way.

"Geoff" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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Thanks for your input. I considered going to my local Fisher dealer and taking some measurements,
not sure what the proper etiquette is though.

The seat tube does extend some distance above the top tube; maybe half the top tube diameter + the
seat tube extension would explain the 1.5" difference.

I did look for any obvious relationship between the serial number and the frame size and didn't
notice any.

I emailed Fisher regarding the serial number and have yet to hear a response. I'm not sure how
responsive Fisher is, but hopefully I'll get an answer either way.

You can go to a shop and measure merrily. They likely don't care..you can simply say you're checking
your measurements based on your old frame. No big deal. From my days with Trek and most
manufacturers, there was no correlation between serial number and frame size. However, they will be
able to work back from the serial number to find the frame size for you I suspect. Also, the shop
you bought it from will likely have the size printed on the invoice (your bill of sale). If the bill
says "size large" and buddy is unhappy, that's really not your fault. If he's so particular about
sizing, he should have insisted on you measuring the frame manually (as I or most anyone who rides
seriously would..) getting explicit C to C measurements for top tube, seat tube and chainstay
length. An unfortunate lack of communication on his part.

Good luck,

Scott..

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Thanks for your input. I considered going to my local Fisher dealer and taking some measurements,
not sure what the proper etiquette is though.

Geoff: I don't think a shop is going to give you a bad time about measuring the frame size of a
couple bikes on their floor. I'd tell them the exact truth; no need to make anything up (and people
have a way of catching on when you're making something up, and they almost always suspect something
worse than whatever the actual truth is).

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Quoted post said:

Originally posted by Mike Jacoubowsk
> Thanks for your input. I considered going to my local Fisher dealer and taking some measurements,

Quoted message said:

not sure what the proper etiquette is though.

Geoff: I don't think a shop is going to give you a bad time about measuring the frame size of a
couple bikes on their floor. I'd tell them the exact truth; no need to make anything up (and people
have a way of catching on when you're making something up, and they almost always suspect something
worse than whatever the actual truth is).

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Yeah, buy some Hammergel or something while you're there... bike shops take that as a gesture of respect. Also, no frames in the world are measured to the top of the seatpost extention. You're doing this just in case he tries to give negative feedback on you so you'll have a good response... otherwise I wouldn't make this an issue if your buyer doesn't.