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  1. I 've taken to using fish oil capsules instead of prescription anti-inflammatories when I need it
    (don't want to go the Vioxx route!), but am now concerned about the levels of dioxins & other
    pollutants in these capsules. I assume they're made from farmed fish, and as the oil is
    concentrated, wouldn't the pollutant content also be high? The recent report on contaminated slamon
    got me wondering if maybe I'd be better off not taking the 'natural' solution.

    Any knowledgable comments/information on this appreciated!

    Cheers,
    Ann

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  2. Wed, 14 Jan 2004 21:56:43 GMT in article
    <[email hidden]> Ann B. <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    I 've taken to using fish oil capsules instead of prescription anti-inflammatories when I need it
    (don't want to go the Vioxx route!), but am now concerned about the levels of dioxins & other
    pollutants in these capsules. I assume they're made from farmed fish, and as the oil is
    concentrated, wouldn't the pollutant content also be high? The recent report on contaminated slamon
    got me wondering if maybe I'd be better off not taking the 'natural' solution.

    Any knowledgable comments/information on this appreciated!


    Compared with fish, fish oil, especially the concentrated fish oil, has very low level of
    environmental contaminants.

    --
    Matti Narkia

  3. It is my understanding most fish oil in the US comes from a small otherwise unusable member of the
    herring family. Small fish have little concentrated toxic materials, the larger ones concentrate it
    by eating many small ones.

    Quoted message said:

    I 've taken to using fish oil capsules instead of prescription anti-inflammatories when I need it
    (don't want to go the Vioxx route!), but am now concerned about the levels of dioxins & other
    pollutants in these capsules. I assume they're made from farmed fish, and as the oil is
    concentrated, wouldn't the pollutant content also be high? The recent report on contaminated slamon
    got me wondering if maybe I'd be better off not taking the 'natural' solution.

    Any knowledgable comments/information on this appreciated!

    Cheers,
    Ann

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  4. In article said:


    It is my understanding most fish oil in the US comes from a small otherwise unusable member of the
    herring family. Small fish have little concentrated toxic materials, the larger ones concentrate
    it by eating many small ones.

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    Quoted message said:

    I 've taken to using fish oil capsules instead of prescription anti-inflammatories when I need it
    (don't want to go the Vioxx route!), but am now concerned about the levels of dioxins & other
    pollutants in these capsules. I assume they're made from farmed fish, and as the oil is
    concentrated, wouldn't the pollutant content also be high? The recent report on contaminated
    slamon got me wondering if maybe I'd be better off not taking the 'natural' solution.

    Any knowledgable comments/information on this appreciated!


  5. On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 00:05:04 +0200, Matti Narkia <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Wed, 14 Jan 2004 21:56:43 GMT in article <[email hidden]> Ann B.

    Quoted message said:

    I 've taken to using fish oil capsules instead of prescription anti-inflammatories when I need it
    (don't want to go the Vioxx route!), but am now concerned about the levels of dioxins & other
    pollutants in these capsules. I assume they're made from farmed fish, and as the oil is
    concentrated, wouldn't the pollutant content also be high? The recent report on contaminated
    slamon got me wondering if maybe I'd be better off not taking the 'natural' solution.

    Any knowledgable comments/information on this appreciated!


    Compared with fish, fish oil, especially the concentrated fish oil, has very low level of
    environmental contaminants.

    Any references give numbers for how safe?

    Pete

  6. Thu, 15 Jan 2004 11:25:05 -0800 in article
    <[email hidden]> Pete <[email hidden]>

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    Matti Narkia said:

    Wed, 14 Jan 2004 21:56:43 GMT in article <[email hidden]> Ann B.

    Quoted message said:

    I 've taken to using fish oil capsules instead of prescription anti-inflammatories when I need it
    (don't want to go the Vioxx route!), but am now concerned about the levels of dioxins & other
    pollutants in these capsules. I assume they're made from farmed fish, and as the oil is
    concentrated, wouldn't the pollutant content also be high? The recent report on contaminated
    slamon got me wondering if maybe I'd be better off not taking the 'natural' solution.

    Any knowledgable comments/information on this appreciated!


    Compared with fish, fish oil, especially the concentrated fish oil, has very low level of
    environmental contaminants.

    Any references give numbers for how safe?


    Fish oil contains negligible amounts of mercury. As for other contaminant, if you want to believe
    commercial hype, you should by concentrated pharmaceutical grade fish oil, which has gone through
    both molecular and fractional distillation processes. I found nothing about these distillation
    processes in the context of fish oil from Medline, but for whatever it's worth, many commercial
    sites are keen to boast about these processes.

    Medline references:

    Foran SE, Flood JG, Lewandrowski KB. Measurement of mercury levels in concentrated over-the-counter
    fish oil preparations: is fish oil healthier than fish? Arch Pathol Lab Med. 2003 Dec; 127(12): 1603-
    5. <URL:http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=14632570&dop-
    t=Abstract>

    "... The fish oil brands examined in this manuscript have negligible amounts of mercury and may
    provide a safer alternative to fish consumption. ..."

    Koller H, Luley C, Klein B, Baum H, Biesalski HK. [Contaminating substances in 22 over-the-counter
    fish oil and cod liver oil preparations: cholesterol, heavy metals and vitamin A] Z Ernahrungswiss.
    1989 Mar;28(1):76-83. German. PMID: 2718527 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] <ncbi.nlm.nih-ncbi.nlm.nih-
    .gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=2718527&dopt=Abstract>

    "Fish oil capsules are increasingly used by self-medicating patients. We studied 22 commercial
    fish oil and menhaden oil preparations in respect to accompanying substances that could be
    harmful. The substances measured were: cholesterol as determined by gas liquid chromatography,
    heavy metals measured by atomic absorption, and vitamin A as determined by high-performance
    liquid chromatography (HPLC). The contents of cholesterol and heavy metals were in ranges which
    can be regarded as negligible; the content of vitamin A in menhaden oils, however, was found in
    amounts which warrant that pregnant women do not exceed the dosage as recommended by the
    manufacturers."

    van de Ven WS. Mercury and selenium in cod-liver oil. Clin Toxicol. 1978;12(5):579-81. PMID: 679643
    [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] <ncbi.nlm.nih.govquery.fcgi
    d&list_uids=679643&dopt=Abstract>

    "Cod-liver oil preparations were analyzed for mercury and selenium. The conclusion can be
    drawn that the intake of mercury and selenium in the normal use of these preparations will be
    very low."

    Jacobs MN, Covaci A, Schepens P. Investigation of selected persistent organic pollutants in farmed
    Atlantic salmon (Salmo salar), salmon aquaculture feed, and fish oil components of the feed. Environ
    Sci Technol. 2002 Jul 1; 36(13): 2797-805 <URL:http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Re-
    trieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=12144249&dopt=Abstract>

    Hilbert G, Lillemark L, Balchen S, Hojskov CS. Reduction of organochlorine contaminants from fish
    oil during refining. Chemosphere. 1998 Sep; 37(7): 1241-52. <URL:http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez-
    /query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=9734319&dopt=Abstract>

    Jimenez B, Wright C, Kelly M, Startin JR. Levels of PCDDs, PCDFs and non-ortho PCBs in dietary
    supplement fish oil obtained in Spain. Chemosphere. 1996 Feb; 32(3): 461-7. <URL:http://www.ncbi.nl-
    m.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=8907223&dopt=Abstract>

    Commercial sites:

    Impurities in fish oil <URL:http://www.iherb.com/mercury.html>

    "... Molecular distillation is the only method (currently) that can remove metals, pcbs and
    other toxins to below detectable levels for human consumption. ..."

    <URL:http://news.drsears.com/archives/july/omega3.htm>

    "... Some manufacturers have relied on "molecular distillation" as a touch-up process to remove
    a small proportion of these contaminants. Although this is an improved "clean-up" step,
    molecular distillation does not remove all the deadly contaminants that they claim and that the
    consumer is led to believe. Molecularly distilled fish oil products do not qualify as
    "pharmaceutical grade" regardless of what the manufacturer says. In fact, it is the crude
    starting material for the production of OmegaRx. Additional and costly processing is then
    required to guarantee that contaminants and saturated fats have been substantially removed from
    the oil. This can only be done by a complex engineering process known as "fractional
    distillation," the only guarantee that you are consuming "pharmaceutical-grade" oils. If a fish
    oil product does not undergo fractional distillation, then it still contains relatively high
    levels of toxins. ..."

    --
    Matti Narkia

  7. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
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    Wed, 14 Jan 2004 21:56:43 GMT in article
    <[email hidden]> Ann B. <[email hidden]>
    wrote:

    >I 've taken to using fish oil capsules instead of prescription anti-inflammatories when I need
    >it, but am now concerned about the levels of dioxins & other pollutants in these capsules. I
    >assume they're made from farmed fish, and as the oil is concentrated, wouldn't the pollutant
    >content also be high? The recent report on contaminated slamon got me wondering if maybe I'd be
    >better off not taking the 'natural' solution.
    >
    >Any knowledgable comments/information on this appreciated!
    >
    Compared with fish, fish oil, especially the concentrated fish oil, has very low level of
    environmental contaminants.

    Any references give numbers for how safe?

    Here are some numbers from the canadian government labs, but I have lost the reference:

    Mean TEQ Values for Dioxins & Furans in Fish Oil (ppt fat)* (Minimum-Maximum Values)

    9.9 (7.06-12.67)

    Mean PCB TEQ Values in Fish Oil (ppt*fat) (Minimum-Maximum Values)

    10.1 (0.0-2.13)

    Mean Total PCB Values
    in Fish Oil (ppb**fat)
    (Minimum-Maximum Values)

    10.1 (1.16 - 140.3)

    Mean Values for DDT in Fish Oil (ppb**)

    11.5 (ND - 44)

    Mean Values for Mercury in Fish Oil (ppm?)

    Not detectable

    Mean Values for DDT in Fish Oil (ppb**)

    12.5 (ND - 44)

    Elmer

  8. Thanks to everyone who responded. I've now got plenty of follow-up reading to do!

    Ann B. said:

    I 've taken to using fish oil capsules instead of prescription anti-inflammatories when I need it
    (don't want to go the Vioxx route!), but am now concerned about the levels of dioxins & other
    pollutants in these capsules. I assume they're made from farmed fish, and as the oil is
    concentrated, wouldn't the pollutant content also be high? The recent report on contaminated slamon
    got me wondering if maybe I'd be better off not taking the 'natural' solution.

    Any knowledgable comments/information on this appreciated!

    Cheers,
    Ann

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    Cheers,
    Ann

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  9. Many feel that the "North Sea/ Cold Water" sources would be cleaner for toxins.

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    Quoted message said:

    Thanks to everyone who responded. I've now got plenty of follow-up reading to do!

    Ann B. said:

    I 've taken to using fish oil capsules instead of prescription anti-inflammatories when I need it
    (don't want to go the Vioxx route!), but am now concerned about the levels of dioxins & other
    pollutants in these capsules. I assume they're made from farmed fish, and as the oil is
    concentrated, wouldn't the pollutant content also be high? The recent report on contaminated
    slamon got me wondering if maybe I'd be better off not taking the 'natural' solution.

    Any knowledgable comments/information on this appreciated!

    Cheers,
    Ann

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    Cheers,
    Ann

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