First Time

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What do I need to look like to enter a WNSO or other amateur natural bb
contest?

5' 10"
36 Waist
160-165 lbs
22 years old

Low fat (7-11% BMI), some abs developed, good pecks, start of gluts.

Look, I know next to nothing about bb'ing, but...

160-odd lb, 5-10 and a 36"waist? 7 - 11% BF? I think not, my friend, with
respect. I'm 48, 5'10, 195 lb, with a 34" waist, and my bf is well into the
high teens, I'd estimate.

Stephen

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What do I need to look like to enter a WNSO or other amateur natural bb
contest?

5' 10"
36 Waist
160-165 lbs
22 years old

Low fat (7-11% BMI), some abs developed, good pecks, start of gluts.

Roughly:
70% waist
35% neck, arms, calves
60% thighs

Percentages are of chest.

Single-digit bodyfat percentage, too.

21 Feb 2005 said:

Date: 21 Feb 2005 14:48:34 -0800
From: [email hidden]
Newsgroups: misc.fitness.weights
Subject: First Time

What do I need to look like to enter a WNSO or other amateur natural bb
contest?

5' 10"
36 Waist
160-165 lbs
22 years old

Low fat (7-11% BMI), some abs developed, good pecks, start of gluts.

JPEGs please.

<reexamining numbers>

Uhh, never mind.

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What do I need to look like to enter a WNSO or other amateur natural bb
contest?

5' 10"
36 Waist
160-165 lbs
22 years old

Low fat (7-11% BMI), some abs developed, good pecks, start of gluts.

Wrong. Those numbers do NOT add up. How do you have a 36 inch waste and say
that you can see abs.... on top of that, you say you may be 7% body fat?
LOL!!!!! I'm ripped and I'm 7 percent. Like another poster said, you're
probably in the high teens, at best. But then you say you're 5'10" and 160?
My head hurts just trying to figure out what you must look like.

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What do I need to look like to enter a WNSO or other amateur natural bb
contest?

5' 10"
36 Waist
160-165 lbs
22 years old

Low fat (7-11% BMI), some abs developed, good pecks, start of gluts.

Wrong. Those numbers do NOT add up. How do you have a 36 inch waste and

say

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that you can see abs.... on top of that, you say you may be 7% body fat?
LOL!!!!! I'm ripped and I'm 7 percent. Like another poster said, you're
probably in the high teens, at best. But then you say you're 5'10" and

160?

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My head hurts just trying to figure out what you must look like.

Skinny with big love handles....but you can see abs. He needs a lot of gym
time.

BTW, what is the average waist size of a 7-11% BF man?

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What do I need to look like to enter a WNSO or other amateur natural bb
contest?

5' 10"
36 Waist
160-165 lbs
22 years old

Low fat (7-11% BMI), some abs developed, good pecks, start of gluts.

Wrong. Those numbers do NOT add up. How do you have a 36 inch waste and

say

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that you can see abs.... on top of that, you say you may be 7% body fat?
LOL!!!!! I'm ripped and I'm 7 percent. Like another poster said, you're
probably in the high teens, at best. But then you say you're 5'10" and

160?

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My head hurts just trying to figure out what you must look like.

Skinny with big love handles....but you can see abs. He needs a lot of gym
time.

BTW, what is the average waist size of a 7-11% BF man?

I can't tell you the average, but I'm 6', 175 and I'm at 30. So 36 just
baffles me to no ends.

John said:

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What do I need to look like to enter a WNSO or other amateur
natural bb contest?

5' 10"
36 Waist
160-165 lbs
22 years old

Low fat (7-11% BMI), some abs developed, good pecks, start of gluts.

Wrong. Those numbers do NOT add up. How do you have a 36 inch waste
and say that you can see abs.... on top of that, you say you may be
7% body fat? LOL!!!!! I'm ripped and I'm 7 percent. Like another
poster said, you're probably in the high teens, at best. But then
you say you're 5'10" and 160? My head hurts just trying to figure
out what you must look like.

Skinny with big love handles....but you can see abs. He needs a lot
of gym time.

BTW, what is the average waist size of a 7-11% BF man?

I'm 47, 5' 10", 191 and about 11.5% BF. I wear 33" Levis and they are
comfortably loose. I could fit in 32s, but too tight for my taste.
--
-Larry

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Skinny with big love handles....but you can see abs. He needs a lot

of gym

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time.

BTW, what is the average waist size of a 7-11% BF man?

I can't tell you the average, but I'm 6', 175 and I'm at 30. So 36

just

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baffles me to no ends.

When my estimated bodyfat was around 11% these were my stats

6'
167lbs
29-30" waist

Eric

Stephen Mulholland said:

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What do I need to look like to enter a WNSO or other amateur

natural bb

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contest?

5' 10"
36 Waist
160-165 lbs
22 years old

Low fat (7-11% BMI), some abs developed, good pecks, start of

gluts.

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Look, I know next to nothing about bb'ing, but...

160-odd lb, 5-10 and a 36"waist? 7 - 11% BF? I think not, my

friend, with

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respect. I'm 48, 5'10, 195 lb, with a 34" waist, and my bf is well

into the

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high teens, I'd estimate.

He could be disproportionatley short legs but I'd be very surprised if
a person with a 36" waist at 5'10" was only 160 lbs AND 7-11% BF.

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I'm 47, 5' 10", 191 and about 11.5% BF. I wear 33" Levis and they

are

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comfortably loose. I could fit in 32s, but too tight for my taste.
--

Can't go by the Levi's....I can wear a 36" waist comfortably and I'm
6'0" and 240 lbs...I haven't measured my waist in a while but I'm
guessing somewhere around 38". I have some 38" jeans but they fall off
me...

In article <[email hidden]>,

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What do I need to look like to enter a WNSO or other amateur natural bb
contest?

5' 10"
36 Waist
160-165 lbs
22 years old

Low fat (7-11% BMI), some abs developed, good pecks, start of gluts.

Your numbers tell us bodybuilding is not in your future.

--
Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/

"gman99" <[email hidden]> wrote

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I'm 47, 5' 10", 191 and about 11.5% BF. I wear 33" Levis and they
are comfortably loose. I could fit in 32s, but too tight for my taste.
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Can't go by the Levi's....I can wear a 36" waist comfortably and I'm
6'0" and 240 lbs...I haven't measured my waist in a while but I'm
guessing somewhere around 38". I have some 38" jeans but they fall off
me...

Gman99, where do you carry your weight? I can't figure out how 38s can be
too loose, yet you are 240# and 6'.

Just curious,
Selene

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hopefully this reply is all you'll need to satisfy whatever pointless
urge that caused you to write the above disastrously unamusing [censored]. --
Fish! - of Arcadia

In article <[email hidden]>, "Selene"

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"gman99" <[email hidden]> wrote

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I'm 47, 5' 10", 191 and about 11.5% BF. I wear 33" Levis and they
are comfortably loose. I could fit in 32s, but too tight for my taste.
--

Can't go by the Levi's....I can wear a 36" waist comfortably and I'm
6'0" and 240 lbs...I haven't measured my waist in a while but I'm
guessing somewhere around 38". I have some 38" jeans but they fall off
me...

Gman99, where do you carry your weight? I can't figure out how 38s can be
too loose, yet you are 240# and 6'.

I'm 5'9" and 220 and wear 34 levis if they go around my legs. But I carry
a lot of my weight in the legs.

"Hobbes" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Selene said:

"gman99" <[email hidden]> wrote

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> I'm 47, 5' 10", 191 and about 11.5% BF. I wear 33" Levis and they
> are comfortably loose. I could fit in 32s, but too tight for my

taste.

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Can't go by the Levi's....I can wear a 36" waist comfortably and I'm
6'0" and 240 lbs...I haven't measured my waist in a while but I'm
guessing somewhere around 38". I have some 38" jeans but they fall off
me...

Gman99, where do you carry your weight? I can't figure out how 38s can

be

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too loose, yet you are 240# and 6'.

I'm 5'9" and 220 and wear 34 levis if they go around my legs. But I carry
a lot of my weight in the legs.

I'm surprised you can wear Levis. I've seen photos of you and I didn't
think they made Levis for the likes of you. <g> You're why kilts were
invented.

Seriously, that's what I was wondering about. If a man (or woman, I guess)
is heavy, but not big around, then they usually carry their weight in their
thighs (whether it's muscle or fat, so I guess this would apply to both men
and women) (which is not to say that there are not legly muscular women out
there, just that fat women tend to carry their fat lower than men, so the
thigh thing could be an issue for women as often as men, which I had not
considered when I started this sentence...now, where was I?)

If weight is being carried in the thighs, whether fat or muscle, then I
thought Levis didn't fit, regardless of the waist size.

Am I making _any_ sense?

Selene
perhaps needs more coffee

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hopefully this reply is all you'll need to satisfy whatever pointless
urge that caused you to write the above disastrously unamusing [censored]. --
Fish! - of Arcadia

In article <[email hidden]>, "Selene"

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"Hobbes" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Selene said:

"gman99" <[email hidden]> wrote
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> >
> > I'm 47, 5' 10", 191 and about 11.5% BF. I wear 33" Levis and they
> > are comfortably loose. I could fit in 32s, but too tight for my

taste.

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>
> Can't go by the Levi's....I can wear a 36" waist comfortably and I'm
> 6'0" and 240 lbs...I haven't measured my waist in a while but I'm
> guessing somewhere around 38". I have some 38" jeans but they fall off
> me...
>

Gman99, where do you carry your weight? I can't figure out how 38s can

be

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too loose, yet you are 240# and 6'.

I'm 5'9" and 220 and wear 34 levis if they go around my legs. But I carry
a lot of my weight in the legs.

I'm surprised you can wear Levis. I've seen photos of you and I didn't
think they made Levis for the likes of you. <g> You're why kilts were
invented.

Seriously, that's what I was wondering about. If a man (or woman, I guess)
is heavy, but not big around, then they usually carry their weight in their
thighs (whether it's muscle or fat, so I guess this would apply to both men
and women) (which is not to say that there are not legly muscular women out
there, just that fat women tend to carry their fat lower than men, so the
thigh thing could be an issue for women as often as men, which I had not
considered when I started this sentence...now, where was I?)

If weight is being carried in the thighs, whether fat or muscle, then I
thought Levis didn't fit, regardless of the waist size.

Am I making _any_ sense?

I couldn't wear jeans for years, but when they came out with relaxed fit
jeans and wide leg jeans I can start getting into them. Normally I still
buy a waist size larger, for comfort in my legs.

So you can't get into an original jean, but yeah, you can wear them now.

I'm wearing jeans in the shots Elzi took of our trail ride.

http://www.moleculegirl.com/notmotorcycle.jpg

Selene said:

"gman99" <[email hidden]> wrote

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I'm 47, 5' 10", 191 and about 11.5% BF. I wear 33" Levis and

they

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are comfortably loose. I could fit in 32s, but too tight for my

taste.

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Can't go by the Levi's....I can wear a 36" waist comfortably and

I'm

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6'0" and 240 lbs...I haven't measured my waist in a while but I'm
guessing somewhere around 38". I have some 38" jeans but they fall

off

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me...

Gman99, where do you carry your weight? I can't figure out how 38s

can be

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too loose, yet you are 240# and 6'.

Just curious,
Selene

I have disproportionately short legs... aka Fred Flinstone syndrome 🙂
I have a 30" inseam. I can't wear slim fits...I find straight legs a
little too snug so get the relaxed fit. Some people say I'm carrying a
good 50 lbs on my shoulders 🙂

"gman99" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Selene said:

"gman99" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Can't go by the Levi's....I can wear a 36" waist comfortably and
I'm 6'0" and 240 lbs...I haven't measured my waist in a while but
I'm guessing somewhere around 38". I have some 38" jeans but
they fall off me...

Gman99, where do you carry your weight? I can't figure out how 38s
can be too loose, yet you are 240# and 6'.

I have disproportionately short legs... aka Fred Flinstone syndrome 🙂
I have a 30" inseam. I can't wear slim fits...I find straight legs a
little too snug so get the relaxed fit. Some people say I'm carrying a
good 50 lbs on my shoulders 🙂

Why would short legs make you....ah, I think I get it. You're as big as a
taller guy, but the shorter legs make it seem disproportional.

Now, Keith went and offered up a jpeg without any prompting. I think you
need to do the same <g>

I was wondering if it was a shoulder thang. As a girly girl, I forget about
that part. Youse menfolk are just shaped differnt!

S.

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There's nothing scarier than a soybean wielding a chainsaw. -- Lucas Buck

"Selene" wrote

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I was wondering if it was a shoulder thang. As a girly girl, I forget
about
that part. Youse menfolk are just shaped differnt!

Yep, we got an outie instead of an innie.

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Why would short legs make you....ah, I think I get it. You're as big

as a

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taller guy, but the shorter legs make it seem disproportional.

Now, Keith went and offered up a jpeg without any prompting. I think

you

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need to do the same <g>

I was wondering if it was a shoulder thang. As a girly girl, I

forget about

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that part. Youse menfolk are just shaped differnt!

I do have wide shoulders / wide back...don't get me wrong...I also have
some spare tissue shall we say 🙂 My point was that jean waist size is
not a good or accurate measure.

Sorry...no jpegs to offer. I neither have a digital camera nor am I
prone to taking or having pictures taken of myself (or anything for
that matter). I was in London, UK for six months...took less than 10
pictures...just not a shutter bug.