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  1. So I imagine this gets asked all the time but whatever; Is in unreasonable to try and run my first
    marathon this fall(The chicago Marathon specifically) if I start training now? I feel like 7 months
    ought to be enough, but thought I'd get some opinions. For the last fours years, I've played
    college-club ultimate frisbee, which as you know entails a lot of running(though obviously not
    marathon-sort of running), but It wasn't really year-round training. I'd be in good shape in the
    spring and slowly go to pot until the fall, when we started playing again. I graduated last may, and
    haven't really exercised as much as I used to in school, so I'm definately not in the best shape of
    my life. But I'll have a long time to train, and I'll have lots of free time this summer(I'm only
    teaching one class four days a week), so it seems the perfect year to do it. Is 7 months long
    enough? how good shape do I need to be in before even thinking about it?

    Dennis O'Dea

  2. "Dennis" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    So I imagine this gets asked all the time but whatever; Is in unreasonable to try and run my first
    marathon this fall(The chicago Marathon specifically) if I start training now? I feel like 7
    months ought to be enough, but thought I'd get some opinions. For the last fours years, I've
    played college-club ultimate frisbee, which as you know entails a lot of running(though obviously
    not marathon-sort of running), but It wasn't really year-round training. I'd be in good shape in
    the spring and slowly go to pot until the fall, when we started playing again. I graduated last
    may, and haven't really exercised as much as I used to in school, so I'm definately not in the
    best shape of my life. But I'll have a long time to train, and I'll have lots of free time this
    summer(I'm only teaching one class four days a week), so it seems the perfect year to do it. Is 7
    months long enough? how good shape do I need to be in before even thinking about it?

    Dennis O'Dea

    Dennis,

    First off, sure 7 months *is* enough time in order to properly prepare to run a marathon. I say this
    because hundreds or thousands (I assume) of people run their first marathon every year with a
    similar ammount of training,...organized fund-raising-marathon-running groups for charity seem to be
    almost everywhere these days.

    That said,...keep in mind that, all else being about equal, you will probably be much more prone to
    injury during training, compared to another runner who follows conventional wisdom and gets 1-2
    years (at least) of running under his/her belt before considering the marathon distance. You can
    keep the injury risks to a minimum if you are prudent about following the advice that a respected
    program will feed you, if you are not especially injury prone, that is...if you have a history of
    bad knees, ankles, etc...I would forget about the marathon and concentrate on very slowly working
    your way into running.

    You will also be more inclined to have a somewhat more "painful" experience with the marathon,
    compared to runners with a longer background in running, but to some of us :::grin:::, that extra
    bit of newbie pain is just another piece of the challenge which makes the finish line that much
    sweeter 🙂

    If your aim is to simply complete the distance in no particular amount of time (which is often
    recommended for a first marathon) then the risks of injury and "painful" experience are likely to be
    greatly reduced. However, if you are looking for the additional challenge of *running* the 26.2
    miles with very little walking involved, then be prepared to suffer extra...not that that's
    necessarily a bad thing per se,...

    I would ask,...what is the main motivation for you wanting to enter this marathon race?

    I recently jumped into running (with only a little casual soccer playing beforehand) and almost
    imediately found my way to a local marathon training group. I was thinking that I had not *really*
    challenged myself with much of anything in my life, and for no particular reason, I felt it was time
    to change that. I set an early goal of a fairly aggressive sub 4 hour finishing time, which meant
    very little walking would be allowed in order to achieve this goal. For 6 months, I worked very
    hard, made some mistakes, suffered some mild-ish injuries, learned a ton about both myself and
    running in general, and managed to finish my marathon in 3h42m. Keeping a relatively slow (but
    steady) running pace through the last mile or so, while my body seemed to be screaming "For the love
    of God, STOP RUNNING!!" was just about the biggest challenge I've ever faced. I crossed that finish
    line a better person for it, and nobody can ever take that away. Yes, it was brutally difficult, but
    that was the *entire* point of why I started the program in the first place...that was MY
    motivation, but yours may very well be quite different...

    Anyway,...for lots more info on first time marathoning, check out some sites like:

    www.runnersworld.com

    www.halhigdon.com

    There's probably tons more,...also may want to check out amazon.com and search for 'marathon'
    books,...there's a bunch to choose from. If you decide to go for it, definitely follow a good
    program/schedule of some sort,...don't just go out and run around for 7 months before race day!

    Hope this helps,

    -Jake

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  3. Jake gave you a great answer. I only want to add that his truly amazing first-marathon performance
    on relatively short training (which he did with eyes wide open, not to mention making my eyes wide
    when he actually succeeded at not just finishing but running pretty fast) is the EXCEPTION. My own
    answer to your question without knowing any more than what you said
    is: if you do your homework on this topic, train smart and progress very slowly, you have a good
    chance at FINISHing at Chicago.

    A time goal of ANY kind regardless of any previous athleticism will cause you to risk injury even
    during training and possibly cause you to not make it to the starting line, much less the finish
    line. Having said all that, if you find that you "take to" the training, a first marathon can be a
    memorable experience and well worth the investment. I did just under 18 months of regular running
    including about 10 months of marathon-directed training (with a 4-month marathon training "program"
    at the end) before running my first marathon--and finishing slow and injured. It hurt, but it was a
    life-changing and positive experience for me. Good luck, please tell us about your progress.-chris

    Dennis said:

    So I imagine this gets asked all the time but whatever; Is in unreasonable to try and run my first
    marathon this fall(The chicago Marathon specifically) if I start training now? I feel like 7
    months ought to be enough, but thought I'd get some opinions. For the last fours years, I've
    played college-club ultimate frisbee, which as you know entails a lot of running(though obviously
    not marathon-sort of running), but It wasn't really year-round training. I'd be in good shape in
    the spring and slowly go to pot until the fall, when we started playing again. I graduated last
    may, and haven't really exercised as much as I used to in school, so I'm definately not in the
    best shape of my life. But I'll have a long time to train, and I'll have lots of free time this
    summer(I'm only teaching one class four days a week), so it seems the perfect year to do it. Is 7
    months long enough? how good shape do I need to be in before even thinking about it?

    Dennis O'Dea

  4. Dennis,

    Plenty of time. I did it in 7 months and I am 60 years old. Three suggestions. First read a couple
    of books on training for the marathon. There are a number of good ones out there (Galloway is my
    preference). Find one that fits your lifestyle and goals. Second find a training partner. As you get
    into longer runs it is very helpful to have someone to get you going when you are down. He/she will
    need your help on occasion too. There are so many people doing marathons that you shouldn't have
    trouble finding a person or two or better yet a group. For me the best part of the marathon training
    was the group interaction. If you are near Chicago I'll bet there are a number of training groups
    set up just for that event. Third, be realistic, a 2:10 is out of the question. It is much better to
    exceed a modest goal than to kill yourself and still not make an impossible one. There is always
    another marathon to set a personal best.

    Good luck.

    Bob

    "Dennis" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    So I imagine this gets asked all the time but whatever; Is in unreasonable to try and run my first
    marathon this fall(The chicago Marathon specifically) if I start training now? I feel like 7
    months ought to be enough, but thought I'd get some opinions. For the last fours years, I've
    played college-club ultimate frisbee, which as you know entails a lot of running(though obviously
    not marathon-sort of running), but It wasn't really year-round training. I'd be in good shape in
    the spring and slowly go to pot until the fall, when we started playing again. I graduated last
    may, and haven't really exercised as much as I used to in school, so I'm definately not in the
    best shape of my life. But I'll have a long time to train, and I'll have lots of free time this
    summer(I'm only teaching one class four days a week), so it seems the perfect year to do it. Is 7
    months long enough? how good shape do I need to be in before even thinking about it?

    Dennis O'Dea

  5. (Dennis) said:

    So I imagine this gets asked all the time but whatever; Is in unreasonable to try and run my first
    marathon this fall(The chicago Marathon specifically) if I start training now? I feel like 7 months
    ought to be enough, but thought I'd get some opinions. For the last fours years, I've played
    college-club ultimate frisbee, which as you know entails a lot of running(though obviously not
    marathon-sort of running), but It wasn't really year-round training. I'd be in good shape in the
    spring and slowly go to pot until the fall, when we started playing again. I graduated last may,
    and haven't really exercised as much as I used to in school, so I'm definately not in the best
    shape of my life. But I'll have a long time to train, and I'll have lots of free time this
    summer(I'm only teaching one class four days a week), so it seems the perfect year to do it. Is 7
    months long enough? how good shape do I need to be in before even thinking about it?

    Dennis O'Dea


    7 months is plenty of time to get your body in shape but your mind won't be ready for it. I always
    reccomend at least 18 months of running before you start training for a marathon but don't let
    that stop you.

    A marathon is very much a battle of your own will. Until you've expereinced that it is like to run
    21 miles and still have 5 to go you won't really know.

    If you are in Chicago get started with CARA (Chicago's running club). Gets lots of experienced
    opinion (something runners are always willing to give). Get yourself a training partner and
    get started.

    my $0.02 Andy

  6. [email hidden] (Dennis) wrote in message
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    (...) But I'll have a long time to train, and I'll have lots of free time this summer(I'm only
    teaching one class four days a week), so it seems the perfect year to do it.

    My answer is a howling but not unconditional "Yes!".

    I can already sense the injury coming: you will find the training in those summer months easier than
    you´d expected, you will believe you´ve passed the rookie stage where you have to watch your mileage
    - and soon you´ll be running "just a little bit more" than the program would call for because you
    have the time and you´re not overweight or middleaged...

    Find a program - "Under four hours" would probably be suitable for your first marathon - and
    stick to it!

    If you discover that your fitness level or running talent would allow a more ambitious time target,
    don´t hesitate to go for it - but don´t increase the mileage.

    (A heart rate monitor would help in gauging your effort level, but it is by no means a necessity.)

    Maintain a training log, keep this newsgroup posted about your progress (if you are social in that
    way), and enjoy of being alive!

    Anders

  7. "jake lee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Anyway,...for lots more info on first time marathoning, check out some


    sites

    Quoted message said:

    like:

    www.runnersworld.com

    www.halhigdon.com

    There's probably tons more,...also may want to check out amazon.com and search for 'marathon'
    books,...there's a bunch to choose from. If you decide to go for it, definitely follow a good
    program/schedule of some sort,...don't just go out and run around for 7 months before race day!

    Seven months is enough time to get in shape to finish a marathon.

    I second the recommendation of following a program/schedule. The two sites that Jake linked have
    training programs for novices. The Runners World program is what I have followed for my two Chicago
    Marathons, and it's a good program for someone without a huge base that wants to finish the race.
    Higdon's plan has longer runs at the start (and more overall) and longer mid-week runs. He does have
    a 12 week pre-training program (halhigdon.comSpringintro.htm) that you could
    follow. An additional note about Higdon's plan is that you can sign up for his Virtual Training
    Program and get your workouts mailed to you every day, along with tips and quotes.

    Good luck! marisa

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