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  1. Hi folks!

    Yesterday I picked up my first bike for around 20 years. I picked a pair
    of Rideback Adventures for my wife and I in appropriate sizes and my
    limited experience with them so far has led me to think they're super
    comfortable and great fun. We spent a good couple of hours riding around
    the woods and trails through a private estate yesterday in the dappled
    sunshine.

    Anyway, to get these things home, I got a halfords rear mounted cycle
    carrier for the car. Not only does this seem a nightmare of straps and
    buckles, but going around corners and watching five hundred quids worth
    of bikes swaying around on the back (I'm sure it was fitted as snugly as
    it could be) was very unnerving.

    What do people use to carry bikes from place to place? I fancied some
    kind of roof mounted affair but couldn't organise one in time to pick
    the bikes up.

    Cheers! (looking forward to going out again today, after the GP..)

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  2. Quoted message said:

    What do people use to carry bikes from place to place? I fancied some
    kind of roof mounted affair but couldn't organise one in time to pick
    the bikes up.

    Tow-bar mounted cycle rack from www.roofbox.co.uk

    The Unfit Family use a Tradekar Silver Bike two bike carrier with a third bike
    adapter. Vernon has actually modified the third bike adapter so it's stronger,
    more secure and makes carrying three road bikes much easier. This bike carrier
    has a tilting action where you can access the boot with the carrier & bikes
    loaded.

    It's been used to transport three bikes to Italy & back, & Germany & back, as
    well as being used every week to get bikes to time trials.

    Cheers, helen s

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  3. dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers said:


    Tow-bar mounted cycle rack from www.roofbox.co.uk

    The Unfit Family use a Tradekar Silver Bike two bike carrier with a third bike
    adapter. Vernon has actually modified the third bike adapter so it's stronger,
    more secure and makes carrying three road bikes much easier. This bike carrier
    has a tilting action where you can access the boot with the carrier & bikes
    loaded.

    Cheers I'll have a look at that. Need a towbar first mind.. :-)

  4. Quoted message said:


    Cheers I'll have a look at that. Need a towbar first mind.. :-)

    Well worth getting one installed IMO.

    Cheers, helen s

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  5. dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers said:


    The Unfit Family use a Tradekar Silver Bike two bike carrier with a third bike
    adapter.

    .... being used every week to get bikes to time trials.

    Why not ride?

    John B

  6. On Sun, 23 May 2004 10:31:33 +0100 someone who may be Gary
    <[email hidden]> wrote this:-

    Quoted message said:

    What do people use to carry bikes from place to place?

    Cycling is perhaps the best way:-) There are also buses and trains.

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  7. "Gary" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    What do people use to carry bikes from place to place? I fancied some
    kind of roof mounted affair but couldn't organise one in time to pick
    the bikes up.

    Take no notice of those who think there is something wrong with carrying a
    bike on a car ;-)

    I use Thule roof bars currently because they're the only company who made
    good bars to fit my car, on my previous car I had H*lfords (don't ask about
    the asterisk :-) own brand which seemed of the same quality for less money,
    they are also Swedish made so I wonder if they're made by Thule for
    H*lfords.

    To carry the bike I use a Thule carrier that allows both wheels to remain
    fitted to the bike and has a swinging arm with a clamp that grips the
    down-tube.
    The downside of this is that it's not suitable for monocoque bike frames and
    without a piece of cloth inside the clamp the bikes paintwork can get
    marked.

    A variation of this is another type by Thule (amongst others no doubt)
    whereby the front wheel is removed and the forks fitted to a quick release
    on the bike carrier, a friend has this type and they fine.
    Seperate carriers are available for the front wheel(s) if space inside the
    car is at a premium.
    I can see no downside to these except that one suspension fork manufacturer,
    Pace, states their warranty is void if you use that method of bike transit.
    Hardly a major concern.

    The downside to roof carrying is extra fuel consumption, think circa 20%,
    and remembering before entering anywhere with a height restriction.
    The upside is nothing stopping access to the boot, no risk of reversing the
    bikes into something, no risk of some bozo hitting them in a rear-ender and
    no need for additional lighting (although some rear mounted carriers hold
    bikes above the light clusters).
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    Pete

  8. Gary said:

    Hi folks!

    Yesterday I picked up my first bike for around 20 years. I picked a
    pair of Rideback Adventures for my wife and I in appropriate sizes
    and my limited experience with them so far has led me to think
    they're super comfortable and great fun. We spent a good couple of
    hours riding around the woods and trails through a private estate
    yesterday in the dappled sunshine.

    Anyway, to get these things home, I got a halfords rear mounted cycle
    carrier for the car. Not only does this seem a nightmare of straps and
    buckles, but going around corners and watching five hundred quids
    worth of bikes swaying around on the back (I'm sure it was fitted as
    snugly as it could be) was very unnerving.

    What do people use to carry bikes from place to place? I fancied some
    kind of roof mounted affair but couldn't organise one in time to pick
    the bikes up.

    The only time I ever carried a bike on my car, I tied it down with loads of
    cable ties. Then the rack worked it's way off as I stormed home... I imagine
    the towbar / roof racks are a bit more secure than these straps and clips
    type arrangements.

  9. Gary said:

    Hi folks!

    Yesterday I picked up my first bike for around 20 years. I picked a
    pair of Rideback Adventures for my wife and I in appropriate sizes
    and my limited experience with them so far has led me to think
    they're super comfortable and great fun. We spent a good couple of
    hours riding around the woods and trails through a private estate
    yesterday in the dappled sunshine.

    Anyway, to get these things home, I got a halfords rear mounted cycle
    carrier for the car. Not only does this seem a nightmare of straps and
    buckles, but going around corners and watching five hundred quids
    worth of bikes swaying around on the back (I'm sure it was fitted as
    snugly as it could be) was very unnerving.

    What do people use to carry bikes from place to place? I fancied some
    kind of roof mounted affair but couldn't organise one in time to pick
    the bikes up.

    Cheers! (looking forward to going out again today, after the GP..)

    My bikes go inside the car when being driven around - which is very rare.

  10. Peter B said:

    Take no notice of those who think there is something wrong with carrying a
    bike on a car ;-)

    Well, for going from Northumberland to the south coast on holiday, there
    isn't much else one can do. Plus, a lot of the places I'd like to cycle
    are in the region of 25-30-40 miles away. Some people may be able to
    cycle 25 miles to a place, cycle round it for a few hours then cycle
    home but not me. Not yet - and probably not ever.

    Quoted message said:

    I use Thule roof bars currently because they're the only company who made
    good bars to fit my car, on my previous car I had H*lfords (don't ask about
    the asterisk :-) own brand which seemed of the same quality for less money,
    they are also Swedish made so I wonder if they're made by Thule for
    H*lfords.

    I looked at the Thule bars in the same store, they had the bars and the
    Thule roof bar cycle carriers but not the foot attachments for attaching
    the bars to the roof. I think I'll get a set of Renault roof bars.

    Quoted message said:

    To carry the bike I use a Thule carrier that allows both wheels to remain
    fitted to the bike and has a swinging arm with a clamp that grips the
    down-tube.
    The downside of this is that it's not suitable for monocoque bike frames and
    without a piece of cloth inside the clamp the bikes paintwork can get
    marked.

    I'd prefer this kind of attachment, not having much place else to store
    the wheels.

    Quoted message said:

    A variation of this is another type by Thule (amongst others no doubt)
    whereby the front wheel is removed and the forks fitted to a quick release
    on the bike carrier, a friend has this type and they fine.
    Seperate carriers are available for the front wheel(s) if space inside the
    car is at a premium.

    But I see that can be solved :-) Still no point making it more complex imo.

    Quoted message said:

    I can see no downside to these except that one suspension fork manufacturer,
    Pace, states their warranty is void if you use that method of bike transit.
    Hardly a major concern.

    I don't think that's a problem.

    Quoted message said:

    The downside to roof carrying is extra fuel consumption, think circa 20%,
    and remembering before entering anywhere with a height restriction.
    The upside is nothing stopping access to the boot, no risk of reversing the
    bikes into something, no risk of some bozo hitting them in a rear-ender and
    no need for additional lighting (although some rear mounted carriers hold
    bikes above the light clusters).

    The hight thing would be a worry but far less so than seeing the bikes
    wave around on this thing on the back. The carrier I have currently
    carries the bikes high above the lights and plate.

    Thanks for the tips!

    G

  11. Quoted message said:

    Well, for going from Northumberland to the south coast on holiday

    If you get the chance, visit Cragside on the outskirts of Rothbury (more
    norhtern Northumberland), it is quite stunning.

    Cheers, helen s
    (Northumbrian lass)

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  12. dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers said:


    If you get the chance, visit Cragside on the outskirts of Rothbury (more
    norhtern Northumberland), it is quite stunning.

    Oh aye. We go to cragside and walk the grounds quite regularly. It's one
    of the great justifications for our Nat.Trust cards. The other place we
    like to do is Wallington, also Gibside.

    One of the questions nagging me is do these trust places allow cycling?
    I don't recall seeing too many bikes on the grounds over the years or I
    might be mis remembering.

  13. Quoted message said:

    One of the questions nagging me is do these trust places allow cycling?
    I don't recall seeing too many bikes on the grounds over the years or I
    might be mis remembering.

    I know what you mean - but they do allow people to drive on their roads!

    Cheers, helen s

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  14. Peter B said:


    "Gary" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    What do people use to carry bikes from place to place? I fancied some
    kind of roof mounted affair but couldn't organise one in time to pick
    the bikes up.

    Take no notice of those who think there is something wrong with carrying a
    bike on a car ;-)

    Sacriledge alert. DING DING DING DING DING

    Never ever ever put a bike on a c*r.
    OK, sometimes in dire emergencies you can bolt a c*r to a bike, and
    sometimes in life or death situations [1] you can drive said c*r, but
    please pleeeeeze never ever let a c*r ever carry a bike ;-)

    [1] for the bike

    John B

  15. Peter B said:

    To carry the bike I use a Thule carrier that allows both wheels to
    remain fitted to the bike and has a swinging arm with a clamp that
    grips the down-tube.

    How stable is this type of carrier?

    I'm also looking for a cycle carrier; previous types I've tried have been on
    the roof (upside down - not an option now with all the gadgets on the bike),
    rear hatch (don't fancy them this time because it's a new car), or inside
    (again, it's a new car - don't want the bike inside).

    With the type where the wheels are in a channel and there is a swinging arm,
    I'd be worried about the whole thing swinging to the side.

    Also, how easy is it for wimpish people to get bikes up there?

    Regards,

    Pete.

  16. Quoted message said:


    Also, how easy is it for wimpish people to get bikes up there?

    Of course, even this wimpy-girlie can manage to get the tow-bar mounted bike
    carrier mounted on to the tow-bar, locked on and load on three bikes with no
    hassle at all. No damage to new car, no damage to bikes and bikes securely held
    in a very stable way. I'm very glad that when t'other half & got our current
    car, we had a tow-bar fitted and made the choice we did. IIRC it cost about
    £150 for the tow bar & similar for the bike carrier. It was money well-spent.

    Cheers, helen s

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  17. JohnB [email hidden] opined the following...

    Quoted message said:

    Sacriledge alert. DING DING DING DING DING

    Never ever ever put a bike on a c*r.
    OK, sometimes in dire emergencies you can bolt a c*r to a bike, and
    sometimes in life or death situations [1] you can drive said c*r, but
    please pleeeeeze never ever let a c*r ever carry a bike ;-)

    [1] for the bike

    In some ways I agree. When I cycled to Peebles, I was amazed at the
    number of cars with bikes on them that passed me, until I remembered
    that the Glentress trail was near there, and that this was how the
    MTBers got their bikes to the start.

    On the other hand, I went to France with my folks at Easter and we took
    our bikes with us. It would be unfeasible to stay where we did without
    the storage capacity of the car, and there is no way I could convince my
    parents to cycle from Cambridgeshire to Britanny.

    I do however tend to mutter "Ride it, don't carry it" when I see cars
    around town with bikes hung off them!

    Jon

  18. Jon Senior said:


    JohnB [email hidden] opined the following...

    Quoted message said:

    Sacriledge alert. DING DING DING DING DING

    Never ever ever put a bike on a c*r.
    OK, sometimes in dire emergencies you can bolt a c*r to a bike, and
    sometimes in life or death situations [1] you can drive said c*r, but
    please pleeeeeze never ever let a c*r ever carry a bike ;-)

    [1] for the bike

    In some ways I agree. When I cycled to Peebles, I was amazed at the
    number of cars with bikes on them that passed me, until I remembered
    that the Glentress trail was near there, and that this was how the
    MTBers got their bikes to the start.

    A few years ago I cycled down to the New Forest Cycling Week with the
    family. On the way we had to cross the A32 and it took 25 minutes before
    a lorry driver saw our plight, stopped to hold up the rest of the
    traffic, and let us cross.

    On arrival at the event the campsite attendant expressed delight that we
    were the first to arrive by cycle. Nearly everyone else was motorised -
    and thus part of the traffic problem we had experienced.

    Luckily there is a 'lightweight area' for those arriving by cycle,
    except one party was caught out when the AA arrived to fix their car
    which was parked about 50 yards away.

    The numbers of so-called cyclists who arrive by c*r to this and similar
    events - York, Mildenhall - never fails to astound me.

    I suppose they have their excuses, ...err, I mean reasons ;-)

    Quoted message said:

    I do however tend to mutter "Ride it, don't carry it" when I see cars
    around town with bikes hung off them!

    Ditto.

    John B

  19. "Peter Connolly" <[email hidden]> wrote
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    Quoted message said:
    Peter B said:

    To carry the bike I use a Thule carrier that allows both wheels to
    remain fitted to the bike and has a swinging arm with a clamp that
    grips the down-tube.

    How stable is this type of carrier?

    No problem.

    Quoted message said:

    With the type where the wheels are in a channel and there is a swinging


    arm,

    Quoted message said:

    I'd be worried about the whole thing swinging to the side.

    Believe me, that doesn't happen.

    Quoted message said:

    Also, how easy is it for wimpish people to get bikes up there?

    It is a little awkward, the taller the vehicle and heavier the bike the more
    of a problem.
    If this is a concern get a tow-bar mount carrier re Helens suggestion.
    --
    Regards,
    Pete

  20. On Sun, 23 May 2004 19:26:17 +0100 someone who may be Gary
    <[email hidden]> wrote this:-

    Quoted message said:

    One of the questions nagging me is do these trust places allow cycling?
    I don't recall seeing too many bikes on the grounds over the years or I
    might be mis remembering.

    A few years ago the organisation in Scotland was promoting
    alternative means of getting to their places than the car. I think
    the southern organisation was doing much the same thing.

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