Figuring Mile Split Times

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I'd like to know the equation used to figure out mile times.
Say I run 6.1 miles and it takes me 54 mins and 22 sec.
How would I figure the exact mile average times?

You divide the total time by the total distance.
You'll need to convert the time into seconds
to make life easier.

So, for the specific example above,
Time = 54min 22sec = (54*60)sec + 22 sec = 3240 + 22 = 3262 sec
Distance = 6.1miles

Divide 3262 sec by 6.1 miles to get 534.754 seconds per mile.

534.75 seconds = 8 min and 54.75 seconds per mile is your mile avg.

You can also do a search on the internet to find calculators
that will do this for you. You just put in the "6.1" and "54:22"
and it will tell you the average.

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remove $ sign to reply) (CP said:

I'd like to know the equation used to figure out mile times.
Say I run 6.1 miles and it takes me 54 mins and 22 sec.
How would I figure the exact mile average times?

You divide the total time by the total distance.
You'll need to convert the time into seconds
to make life easier.

So, for the specific example above,
Time = 54min 22sec = (54*60)sec + 22 sec = 3240 + 22 = 3262 sec
Distance = 6.1miles

Divide 3262 sec by 6.1 miles to get 534.754 seconds per mile.

534.75 seconds = 8 min and 54.75 seconds per mile is your mile avg.

You can also do a search on the internet to find calculators
that will do this for you. You just put in the "6.1" and "54:22"
and it will tell you the average.

-jobs

Or, convert the seconds to minutes by dividing by 60, thus 54:22 converts to
54.37 . Then divide 54.33 by 6.1 to give you the average. This is 8.91.
You would then need to convert the decimal place back to seconds by
multiplying by 60. So let's say the above is 8:55 (.91*60).

To me it is less complicated this way since I can do a lot of the divisions
by 60 in my head fairly quickly. Even when running, you can at least ball
park it by memorizing 10 sec = .16666..., 20 sec = .33333 min; 30 sec = .5
min; 40 sec = .666666... min; 50 sec = .833333... min.

I would suggest setting up an Excel sheet with the formulae in it so that
all you need to do is punch in the time and then the distance and divide.
You can even use one of the custom number functions so you do not need to
convert the time just enter it as 54:33. The answer will be given in the
proper format.

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I'd like to know the equation used to figure out mile times.
Say I run 6.1 miles and it takes me 54 mins and 22 sec.
How would I figure the exact mile average times?
Thanks for your help.
CP

Here's how. 54:22 is 3262 seconds. Divide that by
6.1 is 535 seconds per mile. This is 8.92 minutes per mile,
which is 8 minutes 55 seconds per mile.

Thanks again.
I really appreciate it.

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(remove $ sign to reply) (CP) said:

I'd like to know the equation used to figure out mile times.
Say I run 6.1 miles and it takes me 54 mins and 22 sec.
How would I figure the exact mile average times?
Thanks for your help.
CP

Here's how. 54:22 is 3262 seconds. Divide that by
6.1 is 535 seconds per mile. This is 8.92 minutes per mile,
which is 8 minutes 55 seconds per mile.

(remove $ sign to reply) (CP) said:

I'd like to know the equation used to figure out mile times.
Say I run 6.1 miles and it takes me 54 mins and 22 sec.
How would I figure the exact mile average times?

I've found this little pace calculator very useful over the years...
http://www.veggie.org/pace.calculator/

freeware.

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Thanks again.
I really appreciate it.

Maybe you want to use some of the resources you can find here:

http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/4/4_1/index.shtml

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remove $ sign to reply) (CP said:

I'd like to know the equation used to figure out mile times.
Say I run 6.1 miles and it takes me 54 mins and 22 sec.
How would I figure the exact mile average times?

You divide the total time by the total distance.
You'll need to convert the time into seconds
to make life easier.

So, for the specific example above,
Time = 54min 22sec = (54*60)sec + 22 sec = 3240 + 22 = 3262 sec
Distance = 6.1miles

Divide 3262 sec by 6.1 miles to get 534.754 seconds per mile.

534.75 seconds = 8 min and 54.75 seconds per mile is your mile avg.

You can also do a search on the internet to find calculators
that will do this for you. You just put in the "6.1" and "54:22"
and it will tell you the average.

Or, convert the seconds to minutes by dividing by 60, thus 54:22 converts to
54.37 . Then divide 54.33 by 6.1 to give you the average. This is 8.91.
You would then need to convert the decimal place back to seconds by
multiplying by 60. So let's say the above is 8:55 (.91*60).

For figuring these things in your head, I find it easier to work
more with minutes than seconds also. But I seem to work even more
differently than this. For starters, I don't mind approximate
answers.

Ex: 6.1 miles in 54:22
*If it were exactly 9 minutes per mile, the time would be 54.9 minutes.
The minutes are right, but we have 32 extra seconds.
*32 seconds divided by 6.1 miles is 5 seconds per mile with 1.5 seconds
left over, so we're at 9:00 - :05, or 8:55 per mile.
*1.5 seconds divided by 6.1 miles is negligible. We're done.
If you didn't consider it negligible, then 1.5 divided by 6.1 is
almost exactly .25, so 8:55 - .25, or 8:54.75 minutes/mile.

You do have to track whether to add the increment or subtract it.
But I find it easier to do successive approximations in my head while
running than to carry exact division tables.

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To me it is less complicated this way since I can do a lot of the divisions
by 60 in my head fairly quickly. Even when running, you can at least ball
park it by memorizing 10 sec = .16666..., 20 sec = .33333 min; 30 sec = .5
min; 40 sec = .666666... min; 50 sec = .833333... min.

Easier:
6 seconds = 0.1 minutes
12 seconds = 0.2
(etc).

15 seconds = 0.25 minutes
30 seconds = 0.50 minutes
45 seconds = 0.75 minutes

-- with this, you're never more than 3 seconds (0.05 minutes) off.

--
Robert Grumbine http://www.radix.net/~bobg/ Science faqs and amateur activities notes and links.
Sagredo (Galileo Galilei) "You present these recondite matters with too much
evidence and ease; this great facility makes them less appreciated than they
would be had they been presented in a more abstruse manner." Two New Sciences

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remove $ sign to reply) (CP <[email hidden]> wrote:
> I'd like to know the equation used to figure out mile times.
> Say I run 6.1 miles and it takes me 54 mins and 22 sec.
> How would I figure the exact mile average times?

You divide the total time by the total distance.
You'll need to convert the time into seconds
to make life easier.

So, for the specific example above,
Time = 54min 22sec = (54*60)sec + 22 sec = 3240 + 22 = 3262 sec
Distance = 6.1miles

Divide 3262 sec by 6.1 miles to get 534.754 seconds per mile.

534.75 seconds = 8 min and 54.75 seconds per mile is your mile avg.

You can also do a search on the internet to find calculators
that will do this for you. You just put in the "6.1" and "54:22"
and it will tell you the average.

Or, convert the seconds to minutes by dividing by 60, thus 54:22 converts

to

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54.37 . Then divide 54.33 by 6.1 to give you the average. This is

8.91.

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You would then need to convert the decimal place back to seconds by
multiplying by 60. So let's say the above is 8:55 (.91*60).

For figuring these things in your head, I find it easier to work
more with minutes than seconds also. But I seem to work even more
differently than this. For starters, I don't mind approximate
answers.

Ex: 6.1 miles in 54:22
*If it were exactly 9 minutes per mile, the time would be 54.9 minutes.
The minutes are right, but we have 32 extra seconds.
*32 seconds divided by 6.1 miles is 5 seconds per mile with 1.5 seconds
left over, so we're at 9:00 - :05, or 8:55 per mile.
*1.5 seconds divided by 6.1 miles is negligible. We're done.
If you didn't consider it negligible, then 1.5 divided by 6.1 is
almost exactly .25, so 8:55 - .25, or 8:54.75 minutes/mile.

You do have to track whether to add the increment or subtract it.
But I find it easier to do successive approximations in my head while
running than to carry exact division tables.

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To me it is less complicated this way since I can do a lot of the

divisions

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by 60 in my head fairly quickly. Even when running, you can at least

ball

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park it by memorizing 10 sec = .16666..., 20 sec = .33333 min; 30 sec =

..5

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min; 40 sec = .666666... min; 50 sec = .833333... min.

Easier:
6 seconds = 0.1 minutes
12 seconds = 0.2
(etc).

15 seconds = 0.25 minutes
30 seconds = 0.50 minutes
45 seconds = 0.75 minutes

-- with this, you're never more than 3 seconds (0.05 minutes) off.

When running I have no problems with "ballparking it" either. And as
one runs more especially the same distance, you begin to learn and remember
what those paces come out to be. If you know a few major ones around the
times you normally run then you can get even closer. For instance running 6
min/mile pace for a 10K gives one a total time of 37:12, 7 min/mile is 43:32
(or close) so you can begin to narrow it down. One really does not need to
know that many of these since we typically run races in a fairly narrow band
of times (at least shorter races).

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--
Robert Grumbine http://www.radix.net/~bobg/ Science faqs and amateur

activities notes and links.

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Sagredo (Galileo Galilei) "You present these recondite matters with too

much

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evidence and ease; this great facility makes them less appreciated than

they

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would be had they been presented in a more abstruse manner." Two New

Sciences

Sam said:

When running I have no problems with "ballparking it" either. And as
one runs more especially the same distance, you begin to learn and remember
what those paces come out to be. If you know a few major ones around the
times you normally run then you can get even closer. For instance running 6
min/mile pace for a 10K gives one a total time of 37:12, 7 min/mile is 43:32
(or close) so you can begin to narrow it down. One really does not need to
know that many of these since we typically run races in a fairly narrow band
of times (at least shorter races).

Exactly. For example, suppose you did your 1.14 mile interval in 6:15. What's
your pace ?

Well, 6 minutes per mile is 6 minutes plus an extra 54 seconds - about 3
seconds which is about 51. Likewise, you get about 45 seconds for 5:30 pace. So
subtract some number between 45 and 51 and there's your pace. So the 6:15
interval is about a 5:30 pace.

Doing fast mental arithmetic is about remembering a few numbers and knowing
some convenient tricks, you don't need to be a math genius.

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

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I'd like to know the equation used to figure out mile times.
Say I run 6.1 miles and it takes me 54 mins and 22 sec.
How would I figure the exact mile average times?

In addition to the other suggestions, you could use something like the GNU
units program:

$ gunits -v
2083 units, 71 prefixes, 32 nonlinear units

You have: (54 min + 22 sec)/6.1 miles
You want: minutes/mile
(54 min + 22 sec)/6.1 miles = 8.9125683 minutes/mile
(54 min + 22 sec)/6.1 miles = (1 / 0.1122011) minutes/mile
You have: .9125683 minutes
You want: sec
.9125683 minutes = 54.754098 sec
.9125683 minutes = (1 / 0.018263473) sec

yielding an answer of 8:55 per mile (rounded off).

--
Shawn K. Quinn