Fighting through TdF withdrawals...

The first day after is the toughest. Best to bury yourself in your
work. Traffic on rbr will eventually slack off (until the Vuelta) so
there's some outlet. Maybe go out and ride your bike?

Hoarsed said:

..so far (at day the end of day 1) I think this years TdF withdrawals
aren't going to be nearly as debilitating as least year. So far I have
can only confirm myself to have experienced the following symptoms:

Increasing light headedness, vertigo, gait disturbances, agitation,
tremulousness, irritability, aggression, memory and concentration
difficulties, lethargy, malaise, weakness and general fatigue.

So far not present are the following classic symptoms:

- dizziness/vertigo
- slurred speech
- extreme confusion during waking hours
- no boners
- surging headache
- profuse sweating
- blurred vision
- hypersensitivity to motion, sounds, smells
- decreased appetite
- nausea
- abdominal cramping
- chills/hot flashes
- itchy lips

I think I'm cool... I think I'm gonna be alright.

;-)

This morning I was up bright and early. turned on the TV, flipped the
channel to OLN and damn, an infomercial. I paced around the room, kicked
the cat, threw a rock at the rooster outside the back door and just held my
head wondering what to do. Got to have a little some thing with a bike so
decided to attack my local hill. 8% grade, 1/2 mile long X 10 sprints
seemed to calm me down. Next headed to the beach and take in a few sights.
Ummm, nice day in Hawaii.

Ken @ Kauai

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Quoted message said:

..so far (at day the end of day 1) I think this years TdF withdrawals
aren't going to be nearly as debilitating as least year. So far I have
can only confirm myself to have experienced the following symptoms:

Increasing light headedness, vertigo, gait disturbances, agitation,
tremulousness, irritability, aggression, memory and concentration
difficulties, lethargy, malaise, weakness and general fatigue.

So far not present are the following classic symptoms:

- dizziness/vertigo
- slurred speech
- extreme confusion during waking hours
- no boners
- surging headache
- profuse sweating
- blurred vision
- hypersensitivity to motion, sounds, smells
- decreased appetite
- nausea
- abdominal cramping
- chills/hot flashes
- itchy lips

I think I'm cool... I think I'm gonna be alright.

;-)

"IMKen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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This morning I was up bright and early. turned on the TV, flipped the
channel to OLN and damn, an infomercial. I paced around the room, kicked
the cat, threw a rock at the rooster outside the back door and just held

my

Quoted message said:

head wondering what to do. Got to have a little some thing with a bike

so

Quoted message said:

decided to attack my local hill. 8% grade, 1/2 mile long X 10 sprints
seemed to calm me down. Next headed to the beach and take in a few

sights.

Quoted message said:

Ummm, nice day in Hawaii.

Ken @ Kauai

I just spent a week on Kauai earlier this month and, like most every place I
go, I checked out the roads and wondered about riding/racing there. I don't
see how you could do it. I never saw a (road) rider either. How are the
drivers? Are there ever races on Kauai or do you have to go to Oahu, Maui,
or the Big Island? Do you have to clean your bike every day?

Mark

p.s. And what's with all the wild chickens and roosters everywhere?

Kauai does present some roadie problems. I get in about 7000 miles per year
when setting an Ironman Tri as my goal. Not a crowd of roadies here. I
know about 20 or 30 regulars on the entire island. Love riding up the
Canyon, sea level to 4000 feet in 16 miles with a few 17% grades if you go
up the Waimea side. Only 10% max if you utilize the Wimp side from Kekaha.
I avoid places like Kapaa as I know my way around them. No road bike
competition here except a couple informal TT's. Must do as you guessed,
travel to other Islands, Mainland or New Zealand for competition. Yeah,
wild Chicken put a bit of fear into some fast downhills. 50 miles an hour
down the canyon and a flock of chickens can get interesting.

I went to Florida a few years back for the South Eastern USA Long Distance
Championship where I won my group. I was freaked out on Florida's roads.
Couldn't wait to get home on safe ground.

Oahu and Maui are terrible places to ride but have some good competitions
from time to time. Big Island is OK but it is there I find traffic a
little difficult to deal with.

You did come during a rather wet year. I have been complaining about that
but no one listens. Mostly I ride only when dry and find it no problem to
get my time in but this year I did lots on the computrainer to get ready
for Ironman New Zealand. I race one bike and beat the road on another. The
volcanic grit and a little wet road will take it's toll on bike equipment.

Bring your bike next time.

ken

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"IMKen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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This morning I was up bright and early. turned on the TV, flipped the
channel to OLN and damn, an infomercial. I paced around the room,

kicked

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the cat, threw a rock at the rooster outside the back door and just

held

Quoted message said:

my

Quoted message said:

head wondering what to do. Got to have a little some thing with a bike

Quoted message said:

so

Quoted message said:

decided to attack my local hill. 8% grade, 1/2 mile long X 10 sprints
seemed to calm me down. Next headed to the beach and take in a few

sights.

Quoted message said:

Ummm, nice day in Hawaii.

Ken @ Kauai

I just spent a week on Kauai earlier this month and, like most every place

I

Quoted message said:

go, I checked out the roads and wondered about riding/racing there. I

don't

Quoted message said:

see how you could do it. I never saw a (road) rider either. How are the
drivers? Are there ever races on Kauai or do you have to go to Oahu, Maui,
or the Big Island? Do you have to clean your bike every day?

Mark

p.s. And what's with all the wild chickens and roosters everywhere?

Ken,

Sorry if your road cycling experience on Maui wasn't up to par. I
find the riding on Maui to be way above average. In fact, Maui has
some of the best road cycling on the planet, but then again I'm
biased. 🙂

I moved here from New York in `95 and have been in love with the place
ever since. There's quite a few rides with many variations and
perhaps 3 or 4 well known rides that fall into the "epic" category.
Rides like the road to Hana, the west Maui loop, and sea level to
Haleakala will leave a lasting favorable impression with most serious
roadies. I can't say enough good things about this place other than
come back, bring your favorite steed, and give it another try.

Pretty good local cycling community too. As with most of the islands,
there's a fairly big multisport crowd as well.

Finally, a shameless plug for "Go Cycling Maui", my pal Donnie's
business that caters to anyone who can ride 40 miles without puking or
whining. The website is at http://www.gocyclingmaui.com/ - if
anything just go there to checkout the pictures and see what I'm
talking about as far as the roads are concerend.

Aloha,

Gary

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Oahu and Maui are terrible places to ride but have some good competitions
from time to time. Big Island is OK but it is there I find traffic a
little difficult to deal with.

It's possible that i may show up for "Cycle To The Sun" . It's been
several years since I rode Maui and I had a great time with the variations
but then it was extremely heavy traffic to deal with. Traffic that seems
not to care about sharing the road with cyclists. Guess that can be a
Universal Problem. Tell Justin I said Hello.
Ken @ Kauai

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Ken,

Sorry if your road cycling experience on Maui wasn't up to par. I
find the riding on Maui to be way above average. In fact, Maui has
some of the best road cycling on the planet, but then again I'm
biased. 🙂

I moved here from New York in `95 and have been in love with the place
ever since. There's quite a few rides with many variations and
perhaps 3 or 4 well known rides that fall into the "epic" category.
Rides like the road to Hana, the west Maui loop, and sea level to
Haleakala will leave a lasting favorable impression with most serious
roadies. I can't say enough good things about this place other than
come back, bring your favorite steed, and give it another try.

Pretty good local cycling community too. As with most of the islands,
there's a fairly big multisport crowd as well.

Finally, a shameless plug for "Go Cycling Maui", my pal Donnie's
business that caters to anyone who can ride 40 miles without puking or
whining. The website is at http://www.gocyclingmaui.com/ - if
anything just go there to checkout the pictures and see what I'm
talking about as far as the roads are concerend.

Aloha,

Gary

"IMKen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Oahu and Maui are terrible places to ride but have some good

competitions

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

from time to time. Big Island is OK but it is there I find traffic a
little difficult to deal with.

Will add that Maui's weather is about as good as it gets for Island cycling.
I think some work has been done on the shoulders since I rode over there. I
came over and did the 2001 Xterra Off Road Triathlon and that was a ball.
Check me out on the ABC video. Hah, even the wify got a little time.

Ken

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Ken,

Sorry if your road cycling experience on Maui wasn't up to par. I
find the riding on Maui to be way above average. In fact, Maui has
some of the best road cycling on the planet, but then again I'm
biased. 🙂

I moved here from New York in `95 and have been in love with the place
ever since. There's quite a few rides with many variations and
perhaps 3 or 4 well known rides that fall into the "epic" category.
Rides like the road to Hana, the west Maui loop, and sea level to
Haleakala will leave a lasting favorable impression with most serious
roadies. I can't say enough good things about this place other than
come back, bring your favorite steed, and give it another try.

Pretty good local cycling community too. As with most of the islands,
there's a fairly big multisport crowd as well.

Finally, a shameless plug for "Go Cycling Maui", my pal Donnie's
business that caters to anyone who can ride 40 miles without puking or
whining. The website is at http://www.gocyclingmaui.com/ - if
anything just go there to checkout the pictures and see what I'm
talking about as far as the roads are concerend.

Aloha,

Gary

"IMKen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Oahu and Maui are terrible places to ride but have some good

competitions

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

from time to time. Big Island is OK but it is there I find traffic a
little difficult to deal with.

I'll have to check my topo maps, I thought Maui was mostly flat.
Can't really abide a loop without some climbing.

[email hidden] (Mauiguy) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Ken,

Sorry if your road cycling experience on Maui wasn't up to par. I
find the riding on Maui to be way above average. In fact, Maui has
some of the best road cycling on the planet, but then again I'm
biased. 🙂

I moved here from New York in `95 and have been in love with the place
ever since. There's quite a few rides with many variations and
perhaps 3 or 4 well known rides that fall into the "epic" category.
Rides like the road to Hana, the west Maui loop, and sea level to
Haleakala will leave a lasting favorable impression with most serious
roadies. I can't say enough good things about this place other than
come back, bring your favorite steed, and give it another try.

Pretty good local cycling community too. As with most of the islands,
there's a fairly big multisport crowd as well.

Finally, a shameless plug for "Go Cycling Maui", my pal Donnie's
business that caters to anyone who can ride 40 miles without puking or
whining. The website is at http://www.gocyclingmaui.com/ - if
anything just go there to checkout the pictures and see what I'm
talking about as far as the roads are concerend.

Aloha,

Gary

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Quoted message said:

Oahu and Maui are terrible places to ride but have some good competitions
from time to time. Big Island is OK but it is there I find traffic a
little difficult to deal with.

On 28 Jul 2004 16:34:53 -0700, [email hidden] (Richard Adams)

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I'll have to check my topo maps, I thought Maui was mostly flat.
Can't really abide a loop without some climbing.

Volcano's are generally not flat.

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Robb McLeod said:

On 28 Jul 2004 16:34:53 -0700, [email hidden] (Richard Adams)
wrote:

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Quoted message said:

I'll have to check my topo maps, I thought Maui was mostly flat.
Can't really abide a loop without some climbing.

Quoted message said:

Volcano's are generally not flat.

Been to Yellowstone?

http://www.solcomhouse.com/yellowstone.htm

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Robb McLeod said:

On 28 Jul 2004 16:34:53 -0700, [email hidden] (Richard Adams)

Quoted message said:

I'll have to check my topo maps, I thought Maui was mostly flat.
Can't really abide a loop without some climbing.

Volcano's are generally not flat.

Some maps are pretty lame about showing anything on a speck as small as
Maui. That's when topo maps are helpful.