Fight for your bike?

"Ken M" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I guess it's all up to the individual, but hardly seems woth dying for.
But on the other had I guess if it was very expensive, like a trek
maddone or a serrota or the likes. Any way found this while searching
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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?c_id=2&ObjectID=10342549

Ugh. That stinks.

I don't get particularly attached to mass-produced items but with stuff I
can't replace I can be very protective. (family albums, perhaps a vintage
bike that'd I'd found and restored)

I hope I'd be able to walk away from that kind of situation but I don't
know. When people poke me in the chest, I poke back as a matter of
principle.

:\

C.

Ken M said:

I guess it's all up to the individual, but hardly seems woth dying
for. But on the other had I guess if it was very expensive, like a
trek maddone or a serrota or the likes. Any way found this while
searching google news:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?c_id=2&ObjectID=10342549

What's to say they wouldn't have killed him over, say, his wallet anyway?
If it was a pure "give us your bike or die" thing, then I agree -- it's not
worth getting stabbed over.

Bill Sornson said:

What's to say they wouldn't have killed him over, say, his wallet anyway?
If it was a pure "give us your bike or die" thing, then I agree -- it's not
worth getting stabbed over.

You've hit the nail on the head, Bill. Unfortunately there are people
in the world that don't live by the same rules as the rest of us. When
they see someone that has something they want the only question they
bother to ask themselves is, "Can I take it from them without too much
risk to myself?". This time what they apparently saw was a bike. I've
personally seen cases where people have been badly hurt or even killed
over a gold chain, a car, a jacket, a wallet, and- believe it or not- a
barbecue sandwich.

Regards,
Bob Hunt

Sad, but unfortunately in this world, people are killed for things of
much less value.

Take a freind of mine's 16 year old son, who was killed for a $20
transitor radio a block away from his house.

Two local gang bangers wanted his radio, he refused give it up, they
drew a small caliber pistol on him, told him to get on his knees, and
then shot him once through the heart killing him instantly.

When I went to the funeral, I didn't even recognize this boy, as he
never hung on the streets. Mark

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Bill Sornson said:

What's to say they wouldn't have killed him over, say, his wallet anyway?
If it was a pure "give us your bike or die" thing, then I agree -- it's
not
worth getting stabbed over.

You've hit the nail on the head, Bill. Unfortunately there are people
in the world that don't live by the same rules as the rest of us. When
they see someone that has something they want the only question they
bother to ask themselves is, "Can I take it from them without too much
risk to myself?". This time what they apparently saw was a bike. I've
personally seen cases where people have been badly hurt or even killed
over a gold chain, a car, a jacket, a wallet, and- believe it or not- a
barbecue sandwich.

Alas, my poor elderly auntie, who weighs probably 80 pounds dripping wet and
is suffering from a terminal illness, did her best fight off a jerk who was
after her purse. Of course, she couldn't do diddly-squat, and she's the one
who's covered in bandages, while he managed to withdraw $500 from her bank
account within 7 minutes of the attack.

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Claire Petersky
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"Claire Petersky" wrote: (clip) she's the one who's covered in bandages,
while he managed to withdraw $500 from her bank account within 7 minutes of
the attack.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Wish her well for us. It could have been worse. Tell her also not to write
her ATM number on her card, or anywhere a mugger/purse snatcher can find it.
Tell her also that it is not wise to use her house number, or any other
obvious choice.

Bicycle related note: My password is the frame number on the bicycle I rode
as a kid, about 65 years ago. For some reason, I have never forgotten it.

"Ken M" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I guess it's all up to the individual, but hardly seems woth dying for.
But on the other had I guess if it was very expensive, like a trek
maddone or a serrota or the likes. Any way found this while searching
google news:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?c_id=2&ObjectID=10342549

Ken

I doubt he would have imagined they would kill for it.

"Ken M" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I guess it's all up to the individual, but hardly seems woth dying for.
But on the other had I guess if it was very expensive, like a trek
maddone or a serrota or the likes. Any way found this while searching
google news:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?c_id=2&ObjectID=10342549

Ken

I don't know. It's a matter of principle, I guess. Who wants to be so meek
as to just give up something for which you've worked very hard? I don't
think I would just willingly hand over my Gunnar. I might have to thrash
somebody with a pump and a cable lock.

"Ken M" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I guess it's all up to the individual, but hardly seems woth dying for.
But on the other had I guess if it was very expensive, like a trek
maddone or a serrota or the likes. Any way found this while searching
google news:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?c_id=2&ObjectID=10342549

Ken

Until a person is in that situation, I suspect we really don't know how we'd
react. No mere possession is worth it, but why should people give up stuff
they've worked hard to get... rhetorical questions... The bottom line is the
responsibility for the death of the guy is *entirely* with the people who
stabbed him. There should be no hint of blame placed on the victim in any
way.

Cheers, helen s

Ken M said:

I guess it's all up to the individual, but hardly seems woth dying for.
But on the other had I guess if it was very expensive, like a trek
maddone or a serrota or the likes. Any way found this while searching
google news:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?c_id=2&ObjectID=10342549

Ken

I was having an "I hate the world" day anyway...this doesn't help. 🙁

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Paul M. Hobson
Georgia Institute of Technology
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if you want to reply to me:.

Claire Petersky said:

Alas, my poor elderly auntie, who weighs probably 80 pounds dripping wet and
is suffering from a terminal illness, did her best fight off a jerk who was
after her purse. Of course, she couldn't do diddly-squat, and she's the one
who's covered in bandages, while he managed to withdraw $500 from her bank
account within 7 minutes of the attack.

I hope she's doing as well as can be expected and also that the bank
isn't actually trying to debit her account.

Regards,
Bob Hunt

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"Claire Petersky" wrote: (clip) she's the one who's covered in
bandages, while he managed to withdraw $500 from her bank account within
7 minutes of the attack.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Wish her well for us. It could have been worse. Tell her also not to
write her ATM number on her card,

Her memory is shot, which is why she had it written down with her stuff.
Argh.

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Claire Petersky
Personal page: http://www.geocities.com/cpetersky/
See the books I've set free at:
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