Fell off the wagon

On 6 Feb 2005 17:57:53 -0800, "Jim Marnott" <[email hidden]>

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Breakfasts are the hardest part of the day, aren't
they?

Not for me. The *first* thing I look forward to is my cup of tea in
the morning. After that I do a little scrounging in the fridge to see
what I can have. Lately it has been leftovers from the night before
or a can of tuna mixed with some mayo and 2 of the highest fiber Wasa
crackers I could buy.
After that I have another cup of tea. :-)

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Maybe you would do better with a mock danish, or a chocolate omelet for
breakfast. :-)

--
Cheri

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Well, I fell off again today. It's been two really good weeks, but I
just lost it today. I worry that I won't be able to get back on
tomorrow. I'm already thinking of the little cakes I could have for
breakfast tomorrow and how I'm dreading that scrambled egg... or
anything else that isn't fluffy and sweet.

I've got an Atkins shake in the fridge, and that's the only thing
that's keeping me from going totally off it.... at least its sweet.
Maybe I could down that for breakfast and be satisfied until lunch and
then I might be OK. Breakfasts are the hardest part of the day, aren't
they? I love sweet stuff in the morning to get me going.

Oh well.... I'll keep you posted!

JM

Visit my blog ... http://www.20six.co.uk/gigantical

You know you need to rethink just what a breakfast item can be. I only have
eggs in the morning once a week. Mix up your meals. It does help.....

--
bjgeiger
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Well, I fell off again today. It's been two really good weeks, but I
just lost it today. I worry that I won't be able to get back on
tomorrow. I'm already thinking of the little cakes I could have for
breakfast tomorrow and how I'm dreading that scrambled egg... or
anything else that isn't fluffy and sweet.

I've got an Atkins shake in the fridge, and that's the only thing
that's keeping me from going totally off it.... at least its sweet.
Maybe I could down that for breakfast and be satisfied until lunch and
then I might be OK. Breakfasts are the hardest part of the day, aren't
they? I love sweet stuff in the morning to get me going.

Oh well.... I'll keep you posted!

JM

Visit my blog ... http://www.20six.co.uk/gigantical

Quit eating breakfast.

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

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Well, I fell off again today. It's been two really good weeks, but I
just lost it today. I worry that I won't be able to get back on
tomorrow. I'm already thinking of the little cakes I could have for
breakfast tomorrow and how I'm dreading that scrambled egg... or
anything else that isn't fluffy and sweet.

I've got an Atkins shake in the fridge, and that's the only thing
that's keeping me from going totally off it.... at least its sweet.
Maybe I could down that for breakfast and be satisfied until lunch and
then I might be OK. Breakfasts are the hardest part of the day, aren't
they? I love sweet stuff in the morning to get me going.

Oh well.... I'll keep you posted!

JM

Visit my blog ... http://www.20six.co.uk/gigantical

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Well, I fell off again today. It's been two really good weeks, but I
just lost it today. I worry that I won't be able to get back on
tomorrow. I'm already thinking of the little cakes I could have for
breakfast tomorrow and how I'm dreading that scrambled egg... or
anything else that isn't fluffy and sweet.

$$ You may be better off on a different diet such as CAD or WW, which allow
more carbs.

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I've got an Atkins shake in the fridge, and that's the only thing
that's keeping me from going totally off it.... at least its sweet.
Maybe I could down that for breakfast and be satisfied until lunch and
then I might be OK. Breakfasts are the hardest part of the day, aren't
they? I love sweet stuff in the morning to get me going.

$$ Those cravings pass in time most people say.... giving up almost
everything but meat and vegetables isn't easy.
--
Wysong
Age 60. Height 5'6"
Starting date: 1/8/05
171/ 165 / 140 lb
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"jaime" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Not for me. The *first* thing I look forward to is my cup of tea in
the morning.

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I can't eat as soon as I get up. Now on LC WW I have a cup of coffee with
fat-free milk, Sweet & Low, 1 tsp. Carnation chocolate coffee flavoring and
1 tsp. of dark brown sugar. Heavenly..... and only 1 pt or 60 calories.
--
Wysong
Age 60. Height 5'6"
Starting date: 1/8/05
171/ 165 / 140 lb
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"Jim Marnott" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Well, I fell off again today. It's been two really good weeks, but I
just lost it today. I worry that I won't be able to get back on
tomorrow. I'm already thinking of the little cakes I could have for
breakfast tomorrow and how I'm dreading that scrambled egg... or
anything else that isn't fluffy and sweet.

I've got an Atkins shake in the fridge, and that's the only thing
that's keeping me from going totally off it.... at least its sweet.
Maybe I could down that for breakfast and be satisfied until lunch and
then I might be OK. Breakfasts are the hardest part of the day, aren't
they? I love sweet stuff in the morning to get me going.

Oh well.... I'll keep you posted!

JM

Visit my blog ... http://www.20six.co.uk/gigantical

You're thinking of it as a struggle or battle. L:et's not do this.

You can eat what you want when you want. There are no Diet Police out there
to arrest you for eating ice cream, candy, or whatever your cravings dictate
you.

Bear in mind that some foods will cause you to retain or gain weight, and
other foods will allow you to lose weight. Control of your weight is in
your hands, and it all depends on what you eat and how much you excercise.
If you want to feel guilty for splurging on something, that's your business.
You don't have to live a completely low-carb lifestyle to benefit from it.
Just bear in mind that the more carbs you eat, the less likely you are to
lose weight or maintain control of your weight.

It will take someone a whole lot smarter than me to convince me that those
basic premises are wrong.

Wysong *~' P@P said:

I can't eat as soon as I get up. Now on LC WW I have a cup of coffee with
fat-free milk, Sweet & Low, 1 tsp. Carnation chocolate coffee flavoring and
1 tsp. of dark brown sugar. Heavenly..... and only 1 pt or 60 calories.

Why do you add the sugar?

****************************************************
You, in the red uniform, go see what that noise is!
****************************************************

Wysong *~' P@P said:

I can't eat as soon as I get up. Now on LC WW I have a cup of coffee with
fat-free milk, Sweet & Low, 1 tsp. Carnation chocolate coffee flavoring and
1 tsp. of dark brown sugar. Heavenly..... and only 1 pt or 60 calories.

Why do you add the sugar?

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You, in the red uniform, go see what that noise is!
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OK - look what it's here? A wagon! Jump back on it!

Sweet stuff - the long term method is to learn how to eat moderate amount of it.
The same applies to all other things. Sweet stuff gives you a short term
boost in blood glucose but it's a dog that's going to bite you shortly after,
when you feel lethargic and hungry when the blood glucose goes down again
(rapidly in some cases). I can hear my brain switching off half an hour after
eating something carby / sweet. In a way to me it's eat sweet / carby food that
I like and spend more time being sleepy, or eat a very limited amount of sweet /
carby food and spend time being awake doing things I want to do.

I noticed that you're from UK. Do you read The Observer? Dr. Briffa, a
columnist at the Observer Magazine, has written a book about diet and food
allegy. He says that we're likely to develop a liking for stuff that we have
allergies to. Take a look:

Sunday February 6, 2005
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/magazine/story/0,11913,1405173,00.html
They are what they eat
With the rise in skin complaints and asthma, obesity and attention disorders,
children's health is a constant battle. However, simple changes in their diet
can help target these problems. In this extract from his informative new book,
Dr John Briffa pinpoints the danger signs, and serves up the foods that'll keep
them sweet

Jim Marnott said:

Well, I fell off again today. It's been two really good weeks, but I
just lost it today. I worry that I won't be able to get back on
tomorrow. I'm already thinking of the little cakes I could have for
breakfast tomorrow and how I'm dreading that scrambled egg... or
anything else that isn't fluffy and sweet.

I've got an Atkins shake in the fridge, and that's the only thing
that's keeping me from going totally off it.... at least its sweet.
Maybe I could down that for breakfast and be satisfied until lunch and
then I might be OK. Breakfasts are the hardest part of the day, aren't
they? I love sweet stuff in the morning to get me going.

Oh well.... I'll keep you posted!

JM

Visit my blog ... http://www.20six.co.uk/gigantical

Jim Bard said:

Bear in mind that some foods will cause you to retain or gain weight,
and other foods will allow you to lose weight.

Which foods will cause a person to retain or gain weight, and which foods
will allow a person to lose weight?

Control of your

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weight is in your hands, and it all depends on what you eat and how
much you excercise.

Weight loss depends on what I eat?

If you want to feel guilty for splurging on

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something, that's your business. You don't have to live a completely
low-carb lifestyle to benefit from it. Just bear in mind that the
more carbs you eat, the less likely you are to lose weight or
maintain control of your weight.

Is that true? Some people follow a high carb, low fat diet and lose weight
just fine.

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It will take someone a whole lot smarter than me to convince me that
those basic premises are wrong.

Interesting. Obviously.

Sorry!

Jim Bard said:

You're thinking of it as a struggle or battle. L:et's not do this.

As food is addictive, lighting up your dopamine reward centers just like
coke, it is a battle. One that's very hard to win.

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Wysong *~' P@P said:

I can't eat as soon as I get up. Now on LC WW I have a cup of coffee

with

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

fat-free milk, Sweet & Low, 1 tsp. Carnation chocolate coffee flavoring

and

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

1 tsp. of dark brown sugar. Heavenly..... and only 1 pt or 60 calories.

Why do you add the sugar?

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Because I love the flavor of brown sugar in my coffee. It's only 15
calories a tsp. For 2 1/2 years I was deprived of so many of the foods and
things I love - and never lost another lb on strict LC after that initial 46
lb loss.
--
Wysong
Age 60. Height 5'6"
Starting date: 1/8/05
171/ 165 / 140 lb
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Wysong *~ P@P said:

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Wysong *~' P@P said:

I can't eat as soon as I get up. Now on LC WW I have a cup of coffee

with

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

fat-free milk, Sweet & Low, 1 tsp. Carnation chocolate coffee flavoring

and

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

1 tsp. of dark brown sugar. Heavenly..... and only 1 pt or 60

calories.

Why do you add the sugar?

=======================
Because I love the flavor of brown sugar in my coffee. It's only 15
calories a tsp. For 2 1/2 years I was deprived of so many of the foods
and
things I love - and never lost another lb on strict LC after that
initial 46
lb loss.

Please, please stop posting to this group. Every post you make has this
"I was incredibly deprived on low carb and never lost weight" aspect to it
that I can't stand. If you don't like low carb, say it once and then go
to the "I love weight watchers" newsgroup or somewhere -- anywhere --
else. Actually, screw it, I'm going to put you in my very select filter
list (there's you, JC, and MU).

--
Bob in CT

Bob M said:

Wysong *~ P@P said:

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On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 22:48:29 -0600, "Wysong *~" <P@P> wrote:

>I can't eat as soon as I get up. Now on LC WW I have a cup of
>coffee

with

Quoted message said:

>fat-free milk, Sweet & Low, 1 tsp. Carnation chocolate coffee
>flavoring

and

Quoted message said:

>1 tsp. of dark brown sugar. Heavenly..... and only 1 pt or 60
calories.

Why do you add the sugar?

=======================
Because I love the flavor of brown sugar in my coffee. It's only 15
calories a tsp. For 2 1/2 years I was deprived of so many of the
foods and
things I love - and never lost another lb on strict LC after that
initial 46
lb loss.

Please, please stop posting to this group. Every post you make has
this "I was incredibly deprived on low carb and never lost weight"
aspect to it that I can't stand. If you don't like low carb, say it
once and then go to the "I love weight watchers" newsgroup or
somewhere -- anywhere -- else. Actually, screw it, I'm going to put
you in my very select filter list (there's you, JC, and MU).

It's hard to have a grip on reality when you in love with food. she can't
help herself. She was deprived and now must correct for it.

On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 15:04:47 -0500, Roger Zoul <[email hidden]>

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Bob M said:

Wysong *~ P@P said:

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"jaime" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 22:48:29 -0600, "Wysong *~" <P@P> wrote:
>
>
> >I can't eat as soon as I get up. Now on LC WW I have a cup of
> >coffee
with
> >fat-free milk, Sweet & Low, 1 tsp. Carnation chocolate coffee
> >flavoring
and
> >1 tsp. of dark brown sugar. Heavenly..... and only 1 pt or 60
> calories.
>
>
> Why do you add the sugar?
=======================
Because I love the flavor of brown sugar in my coffee. It's only 15
calories a tsp. For 2 1/2 years I was deprived of so many of the
foods and
things I love - and never lost another lb on strict LC after that
initial 46
lb loss.

Please, please stop posting to this group. Every post you make has
this "I was incredibly deprived on low carb and never lost weight"
aspect to it that I can't stand. If you don't like low carb, say it
once and then go to the "I love weight watchers" newsgroup or
somewhere -- anywhere -- else. Actually, screw it, I'm going to put
you in my very select filter list (there's you, JC, and MU).

It's hard to have a grip on reality when you in love with food. she
can't
help herself. She was deprived and now must correct for it.

Personally, I think the definition of a "diet" is to be deprived of
something (even if it's only calories, such as in weight watchers --
although their point system also takes into account fat content). When I
was on low fat, there was tons of stuff I couldn't eat. I never once felt
"deprived," as I thought that my health and my athletic endurance was
being helped by being on low fat (after being on low carb for a while,
I've rethought that, but that's a different thread). Moreover, sugar is
one of the worst things I personally can eat, as it just keeps me wanting
more. I try to only eat sugar at those times where something important is
happening (a life event, such as a birthday, etc.) or sometimes as a
treat, but even then I'm trying to minimize quantities of it (i.e., going
to an ice cream store and splitting a small with my girlfriend). To say
that you were deprived on a diet and are now going to eat sugar is just
setting yourself up for failure, in my opinion. ANY diet should advocate
sugar reduction or elimination.

--
Bob in CT

Wysong *~ said:

For 2 1/2 years I was deprived of so many of the foods and
things I love - and never lost another lb on strict LC after that initial 46
lb loss.

Then you were doing something wrong.

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Wysong *~ P@P said:

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On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 22:48:29 -0600, "Wysong *~" <P@P> wrote:

>I can't eat as soon as I get up. Now on LC WW I have a cup of coffee

with

Quoted message said:

>fat-free milk, Sweet & Low, 1 tsp. Carnation chocolate coffee

flavoring

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

and

Quoted message said:

>1 tsp. of dark brown sugar. Heavenly..... and only 1 pt or 60
calories.

Why do you add the sugar?

=======================
Because I love the flavor of brown sugar in my coffee. It's only 15
calories a tsp. For 2 1/2 years I was deprived of so many of the foods
and
things I love - and never lost another lb on strict LC after that
initial 46
lb loss.

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Please, please stop posting to this group. Every post you make has this
"I was incredibly deprived on low carb and never lost weight" aspect to it
that I can't stand.

** Please use your killfile if the truth is too hard to read. This is a
public forum and any diet talk in On Topic.

If you don't like low carb, say it once and then go

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to the "I love weight watchers" newsgroup or somewhere -- anywhere --
else. Actually, screw it, I'm going to put you in my very select filter
list (there's you, JC, and MU).

** Good idea. You do that. :-)
--
Wysong
Age 60. Height 5'6"
Starting date: 1/8/05
171/ 165 / 140 lb
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