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  1. Federal Prison For Quackbusters?

    Opinion by Consumer Advocate Tim Bolen

    July 24th, 2003

    Official Health care in North America is a disaster. It is designed "not to
    work," INTENTIONALLY. In Official Health care America, nobody ever gets
    "cured" of anything - only "treated." The system feeds massive amounts of
    cash into the hands of the greedy - with little, or no benefit to Americans.

    The "approved" medical system in America is called the drugs/surgery
    paradigm. In it, all medical care is made up of ONLY drugs or surgery
    offerings. It is all very expensive, and outside of the Emergency Room,
    it's nearly useless.

    Americans who are forced to rely on approved Medicare offerings are getting
    system of health care that's fifteen years old. It wasn't any good fifteen
    years ago - and it's certainly no better now. Those that have health
    insurance are getting health care ten years old.

    Frankly, if our official medical system were in charge of our computer
    industry, we'd all be still using #2 pencils, and we'd have to have a
    license to use an eraser.

    We Americans, leery of new drug offerings, have put a test system in place
    for new drugs, forcing chemicals which are unnatural, and have never been
    introduced into the human body before, to undergo rigorous testing. It can
    cost $100 to $200 million dollars to develop and test a new drug.

    Where the problem begins is that certain government agencies are now trying
    to force that rigid drug test system on "natural" products - those things
    that have been part of the human diet since the beginning of time, and
    "non-drug" approaches like healing, detoxification, self-health, oxygen
    therapies, energy medicine, and electro-medicine.

    Why would the FDA and the FTC do that? It's about money. The answer is
    simple - drug company influence. The FDA has a "revolving door" program with
    drug company executives. They constantly change jobs - from agency to
    industry - and back.

    With this influence, it is apparent that "new" health care ideas, in
    America, called the "alternative" paradigm, are being subjected to near
    impossible criteria for approval. Only the richest of the drug companies
    can afford the official process - which is why conventional doctors only
    have "the newest pill" to offer. "Natural" or the other approaches, don't
    generate the kind of income that drugs do. So the $100 to $200 million test
    costs are out of reach.

    Americans are the losers. For, if it continues, and we allow our employees
    at the FDA to continue their incestuous relationship with the drug world,
    we're stuck with drugs and surgery.

    Combating that situation In North America, is an organization called "The
    North American Health Freedom Movement." It's purpose is to deal with the
    organized attack on new health care ideas. It is very successful. It is on
    the side of GOOD.

    On the side of EVIL there is an organization grandiosely calling itself the
    "quackbusters," who's sole purpose is to stop new health care modalities.
    Their intent is to force Americans to be reliant, for their health care
    needs, on that which has been allegedly "approved." They, in their
    murderous scam, label all things allegedly not "approved," as "quackery,"
    and the proponents of new things as "quacks."

    Americans are suffering and dying because of this conspiracy. James Carter
    MD, Dr Phil., in his authoritative book "Racketeering in Medicine,"
    carefully explains the problem. Retired New York Assemblyman Dan Haley, in
    his book "The Politics of Healing," does an excellent job of talking about
    how much damage is being done to North Americans.

    The reality is that the "cures" for a good many of society's most dreaded
    health problems are already in existence - but are being suppressed FOR
    THREE REASONS: because (1) they are not drug or surgery oriented, and won't
    bring mega-dollars into the conventional medical coffers, (2) they are a
    "cure" and not a "treatment." There is much more profit in a "treatment"
    than there is in a "cure." AND (3) the health problems are too often caused
    by the very products, and the very industry that manufacturers those
    products, used as "treatments."

    Cancer, for instance, isn't being cured by Oncologists, cancer centers, or
    the American Cancer Society. Those groups only use, and promote, expensive
    "treatments." Cancer is being cured by individuals, in different parts of
    the world. All of those individuals, and their new ideas, are either being
    suppressed in some way, or are under outright attack. It is the same for
    AIDS, diabetes, heart problems, strokes, autism, MS, you-name-it.

    There are cures for almost everything already available - and none of them
    bring piles of gold to drug companies.

    People who are restricted to "approved" medical offerings in North America
    simply suffer and die. Those that step outside of the current accepted
    paradigm - thrive. Medicare "approved" offerings are fifteen years old.
    Health insurance companies only pay for ten-year old medical care. Studies
    show that Americans go elsewhere for their health care, to stay alive, and
    healthy. That's reality.

    It is no great leap to suspect who is funding the quackbusters - and for
    what reason. "Quackbusting" frankly, is a scam, funded I believe, by the
    greedier, and more murderous, of the conventional mendicants. Those
    mendicants are simply protecting their mega-dollars by attacking the
    credibility, and the new health offerings, of those who would dare to
    challenge their obscene profits.

    It is time to take a hard line against the "quackbusters." Hard line, as in
    "Federal prosecution." Hard line, as in "hard time." Hard line, as in
    "seize property." Hard line, as in "throw those corporations out of
    America - officially ban their products."

    It is time for Attorney General John Ashcroft to step in...

    A lot of people in the North American Health Freedom Movement are aware that
    I've been coordinating information about quackbuster activities for some
    time, and for specific purposes. When, for instance, an attorney defending
    against a quackbuster attack asks for my files on the likes of Barrett,
    Baratz, Sampson, or whomever, part of the price is an information exchange.
    I want certain questions asked of the quackbuster witnesses, under oath.
    The attorneys always agree, and return the information I'm looking for.

    What I'm specifically looking for is enough evidence to motivate US Attorney
    General John Ashcroft to open an investigation into the quackbuster
    conspiracy, with all of the resulting criminal prosecutions that could
    engender. Simply, I want the quackbuster conspirators to die in a Federal
    prison, or on the end of a rope, for what they've done to Americans.

    I'm I getting what I want? Yes, I am... Can I get Ashcroft's attention?
    Very likely.

    John Ashcroft, the Attorney General of the United States, has the ability to
    open doors I cannot. He can get search warrants to seize records I can't
    get, even under subpoena. For instance: I want to see Stephen Barrett's
    (www.quackwatch.com) tax returns for the last twenty years. I want to know
    who is paying the quackbuster's master propagandist. Despite my best
    efforts Barrett, so far, has been able to keep them from me. We're in court
    arguing this issue, right now. So to speak...

    Why do I want Barrett's tax records? I want to know who's funding him - and
    how. I want to know who the REAL quackbusters are.

    Stephen Barrett, in a court case in Oregon, was forced to testify about his
    income - since he had claimed he was damaged financially by the person he
    was suing. Barrett claimed he had only made $30,000 last year, and $24,000
    the year before that. Really, he did.

    So if Barrett made only a total of $54,000 over the last two years, how is
    he paying for eleven separate court actions in North America over the last
    few years? At a $100,000 outlay each, that's $1,100,000 in legal bills.
    Interesting...

    In the American court system, the Defendant, in a court case, has the right
    to know about the Plaintiff. The Plaintiff has to answer questions about
    themselves, and their purpose in the court action. If Barrett is having his
    legal fees paid by someone else - then he's not the real Plaintiff, now is
    he? The REAL Plaintiff is paying the bills.

    Barrett is suing me - trying to shut me up. Does it look like that strategy
    is working? Since I have the right to counter-sue the Plaintiff, I want to
    know WHO THE REAL PLAINTIFF IS... I have plans for them.

    The quackbusters know that I, and my friends, have infiltrated their
    communications network. They know I have their lists. I make no secret of
    it. They also now know that their being on one of those lists makes each of
    them a target for a RICO suit or other action. Their plan to deny Americans
    real health care options is being revealed.

    Don't hesitate to send me information you think might be part of the
    quackbuster puzzle - something Ashcroft's people could use. Assembling a
    puzzle takes a lot of pieces, many of which don't seem to readily fit. Send
    it - it may be just the piece I'm looking for...

    Dealing with the scam...

    There are several things we're doing, and have already done, to stymie the
    "quackbusters." You can read about them at my website
    "www.quackpotwatch.org."

    In Wisconsin, we, in the North American Health Freedom Movement, have
    trapped one of the top quackbusters, Bobbie Baratz, in a case he can't get
    out of. He, and his destructive quackbuster philosophy, are now on trial
    there. He's going to have to fight to stay out of jail, frankly. We're
    mobilizing the entire State to focus on toxic Bobbie - Health Freedom
    Activists, Senators, Assemblymen, the Governor's office, health food stores,
    practitioners, you-name-it, are lining up to take a chunk out of Bobbie.
    And, he certainly deserves it. I'm heading back to Wisconsin to set up even
    more meetings about the danger of quackbusters to the life, and health of
    Americans.

    Baratz, with his even weirder frequent statements about health care, is
    playing right into my hands in Wisconsin. The more he opens his mouth, the
    better I like it. And, Bobbie can't keep his mouth shut.

    In America we have an issue we need to deal with. It is, in my opinion, the
    most important issue facing Americans. It is just as important as dealing
    with terrorism. We need to stop the suppression of real health care - and
    imprison those forcing Americans into the suffering and death of the current
    drugs/surgery paradigm.

    Stay tuned...

    Tim Bolen - Consumer Advocate

    This "Millions of Health Freedom Fighters - Newsletter" is about the battle
    between "Health and Medicine" on Planet Earth. Tim Bolen is an op/ed writer
    with extensive knowledge of the activities of a subversive organization
    calling itself the "quackbusters," and that organization's attempts to
    suppress, and discredit, any, and all health modalities that compete with
    the allopathic (MD) paradigm for consumer health dollars. The focus of the
    newsletter is on the ongoing activities, battles, politics, and the
    victories won by members of the "Health Freedom Movement" against the
    "quackbusters" It details "who the quackbusters are, what they are, where
    they are operating, when they appear, and how they operate - and how easy it
    is to beat them..."

    For background information on the "Battle between Health and Medicine" go
    to: "http://www.savedrclark.net/by_whom2.htm". A copy of THIS newsletter,
    and older ones, are viewable at the website
    "http://www.quackpotwatch.org/default.htm".

    For EVEN MORE interesting and related articles go to
    "http://www.bolenreport.com".

  2. "rb" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Federal Prison For Quackbusters?

    Opinion by Consumer Advocate Tim Bolen

    July 24th, 2003

    snip meaningless BS. hmmm, nothing left.

    How about prison for quacks that proclaim to have the "Cure for all Diseases"
    and "The Cure for all Cancers" and "The Cure for HIV and Aids"? All of the
    book titles are a lie or a mistake or a delusion. In any case, the quack is
    wrong. All of the above is my opinion, and the probability that I am wrong
    is as close to nil as one can get.

    r

    --
    "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from
    magic."

    Arthur C. Clarke (1917 - ), "Technology and the Future"

  3. Yes, it is infinitely easier to attack the good faith of those concerned
    about the scamming of sick people, than to prop up the treatment claims of
    Hulda Clark and others.

    Bolen is all mouth. He once threatened to drag me into court over my
    criticiam of Hulda Clark. I provided him with my address and credentials
    and everything, and am still waiting.

    Peter Moran

  4. Quoted message said:

    From: "rb" [email hidden]
    Date: 7/30/2003 4:29 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Sadly, this is right on the money!!!

    Jan

    Quoted message said:

    Federal Prison For Quackbusters?

    Opinion by Consumer Advocate Tim Bolen

    July 24th, 2003

    Official Health care in North America is a disaster. It is designed "not to
    work," INTENTIONALLY. In Official Health care America, nobody ever gets
    "cured" of anything - only "treated." The system feeds massive amounts of
    cash into the hands of the greedy - with little, or no benefit to Americans.

    The "approved" medical system in America is called the drugs/surgery
    paradigm. In it, all medical care is made up of ONLY drugs or surgery
    offerings. It is all very expensive, and outside of the Emergency Room,
    it's nearly useless.

    Americans who are forced to rely on approved Medicare offerings are getting
    system of health care that's fifteen years old. It wasn't any good fifteen
    years ago - and it's certainly no better now. Those that have health
    insurance are getting health care ten years old.

    Frankly, if our official medical system were in charge of our computer
    industry, we'd all be still using #2 pencils, and we'd have to have a
    license to use an eraser.

    We Americans, leery of new drug offerings, have put a test system in place
    for new drugs, forcing chemicals which are unnatural, and have never been
    introduced into the human body before, to undergo rigorous testing. It can
    cost $100 to $200 million dollars to develop and test a new drug.

    Where the problem begins is that certain government agencies are now trying
    to force that rigid drug test system on "natural" products - those things
    that have been part of the human diet since the beginning of time, and
    "non-drug" approaches like healing, detoxification, self-health, oxygen
    therapies, energy medicine, and electro-medicine.

    Why would the FDA and the FTC do that? It's about money. The answer is
    simple - drug company influence. The FDA has a "revolving door" program with
    drug company executives. They constantly change jobs - from agency to
    industry - and back.

    With this influence, it is apparent that "new" health care ideas, in
    America, called the "alternative" paradigm, are being subjected to near
    impossible criteria for approval. Only the richest of the drug companies
    can afford the official process - which is why conventional doctors only
    have "the newest pill" to offer. "Natural" or the other approaches, don't
    generate the kind of income that drugs do. So the $100 to $200 million test
    costs are out of reach.

    Americans are the losers. For, if it continues, and we allow our employees
    at the FDA to continue their incestuous relationship with the drug world,
    we're stuck with drugs and surgery.

    Combating that situation In North America, is an organization called "The
    North American Health Freedom Movement." It's purpose is to deal with the
    organized attack on new health care ideas. It is very successful. It is on
    the side of GOOD.

    On the side of EVIL there is an organization grandiosely calling itself the
    "quackbusters," who's sole purpose is to stop new health care modalities.
    Their intent is to force Americans to be reliant, for their health care
    needs, on that which has been allegedly "approved." They, in their
    murderous scam, label all things allegedly not "approved," as "quackery,"
    and the proponents of new things as "quacks."

    Americans are suffering and dying because of this conspiracy. James Carter
    MD, Dr Phil., in his authoritative book "Racketeering in Medicine,"
    carefully explains the problem. Retired New York Assemblyman Dan Haley, in
    his book "The Politics of Healing," does an excellent job of talking about
    how much damage is being done to North Americans.

    The reality is that the "cures" for a good many of society's most dreaded
    health problems are already in existence - but are being suppressed FOR
    THREE REASONS: because (1) they are not drug or surgery oriented, and won't
    bring mega-dollars into the conventional medical coffers, (2) they are a
    "cure" and not a "treatment." There is much more profit in a "treatment"
    than there is in a "cure." AND (3) the health problems are too often caused
    by the very products, and the very industry that manufacturers those
    products, used as "treatments."

    Cancer, for instance, isn't being cured by Oncologists, cancer centers, or
    the American Cancer Society. Those groups only use, and promote, expensive
    "treatments." Cancer is being cured by individuals, in different parts of
    the world. All of those individuals, and their new ideas, are either being
    suppressed in some way, or are under outright attack. It is the same for
    AIDS, diabetes, heart problems, strokes, autism, MS, you-name-it.

    There are cures for almost everything already available - and none of them
    bring piles of gold to drug companies.

    People who are restricted to "approved" medical offerings in North America
    simply suffer and die. Those that step outside of the current accepted
    paradigm - thrive. Medicare "approved" offerings are fifteen years old.
    Health insurance companies only pay for ten-year old medical care. Studies
    show that Americans go elsewhere for their health care, to stay alive, and
    healthy. That's reality.

    It is no great leap to suspect who is funding the quackbusters - and for
    what reason. "Quackbusting" frankly, is a scam, funded I believe, by the
    greedier, and more murderous, of the conventional mendicants. Those
    mendicants are simply protecting their mega-dollars by attacking the
    credibility, and the new health offerings, of those who would dare to
    challenge their obscene profits.

    It is time to take a hard line against the "quackbusters." Hard line, as in
    "Federal prosecution." Hard line, as in "hard time." Hard line, as in
    "seize property." Hard line, as in "throw those corporations out of
    America - officially ban their products."

    It is time for Attorney General John Ashcroft to step in...

    A lot of people in the North American Health Freedom Movement are aware that
    I've been coordinating information about quackbuster activities for some
    time, and for specific purposes. When, for instance, an attorney defending
    against a quackbuster attack asks for my files on the likes of Barrett,
    Baratz, Sampson, or whomever, part of the price is an information exchange.
    I want certain questions asked of the quackbuster witnesses, under oath.
    The attorneys always agree, and return the information I'm looking for.

    What I'm specifically looking for is enough evidence to motivate US Attorney
    General John Ashcroft to open an investigation into the quackbuster
    conspiracy, with all of the resulting criminal prosecutions that could
    engender. Simply, I want the quackbuster conspirators to die in a Federal
    prison, or on the end of a rope, for what they've done to Americans.

    I'm I getting what I want? Yes, I am... Can I get Ashcroft's attention?
    Very likely.

    John Ashcroft, the Attorney General of the United States, has the ability to
    open doors I cannot. He can get search warrants to seize records I can't
    get, even under subpoena. For instance: I want to see Stephen Barrett's
    (www.quackwatch.com) tax returns for the last twenty years. I want to know
    who is paying the quackbuster's master propagandist. Despite my best
    efforts Barrett, so far, has been able to keep them from me. We're in court
    arguing this issue, right now. So to speak...

    Why do I want Barrett's tax records? I want to know who's funding him - and
    how. I want to know who the REAL quackbusters are.

    Stephen Barrett, in a court case in Oregon, was forced to testify about his
    income - since he had claimed he was damaged financially by the person he
    was suing. Barrett claimed he had only made $30,000 last year, and $24,000
    the year before that. Really, he did.

    So if Barrett made only a total of $54,000 over the last two years, how is
    he paying for eleven separate court actions in North America over the last
    few years? At a $100,000 outlay each, that's $1,100,000 in legal bills.
    Interesting...

    In the American court system, the Defendant, in a court case, has the right
    to know about the Plaintiff. The Plaintiff has to answer questions about
    themselves, and their purpose in the court action. If Barrett is having his
    legal fees paid by someone else - then he's not the real Plaintiff, now is
    he? The REAL Plaintiff is paying the bills.

    Barrett is suing me - trying to shut me up. Does it look like that strategy
    is working? Since I have the right to counter-sue the Plaintiff, I want to
    know WHO THE REAL PLAINTIFF IS... I have plans for them.

    The quackbusters know that I, and my friends, have infiltrated their
    communications network. They know I have their lists. I make no secret of
    it. They also now know that their being on one of those lists makes each of
    them a target for a RICO suit or other action. Their plan to deny Americans
    real health care options is being revealed.

    Don't hesitate to send me information you think might be part of the
    quackbuster puzzle - something Ashcroft's people could use. Assembling a
    puzzle takes a lot of pieces, many of which don't seem to readily fit. Send
    it - it may be just the piece I'm looking for...

    Dealing with the scam...

    There are several things we're doing, and have already done, to stymie the
    "quackbusters." You can read about them at my website
    "www.quackpotwatch.org."

    In Wisconsin, we, in the North American Health Freedom Movement, have
    trapped one of the top quackbusters, Bobbie Baratz, in a case he can't get
    out of. He, and his destructive quackbuster philosophy, are now on trial
    there. He's going to have to fight to stay out of jail, frankly. We're
    mobilizing the entire State to focus on toxic Bobbie - Health Freedom
    Activists, Senators, Assemblymen, the Governor's office, health food stores,
    practitioners, you-name-it, are lining up to take a chunk out of Bobbie.
    And, he certainly deserves it. I'm heading back to Wisconsin to set up even
    more meetings about the danger of quackbusters to the life, and health of
    Americans.

    Baratz, with his even weirder frequent statements about health care, is
    playing right into my hands in Wisconsin. The more he opens his mouth, the
    better I like it. And, Bobbie can't keep his mouth shut.

    In America we have an issue we need to deal with. It is, in my opinion, the
    most important issue facing Americans. It is just as important as dealing
    with terrorism. We need to stop the suppression of real health care - and
    imprison those forcing Americans into the suffering and death of the current
    drugs/surgery paradigm.

    Stay tuned...

    Tim Bolen - Consumer Advocate

    This "Millions of Health Freedom Fighters - Newsletter" is about the battle
    between "Health and Medicine" on Planet Earth. Tim Bolen is an op/ed writer
    with extensive knowledge of the activities of a subversive organization
    calling itself the "quackbusters," and that organization's attempts to
    suppress, and discredit, any, and all health modalities that compete with
    the allopathic (MD) paradigm for consumer health dollars. The focus of the
    newsletter is on the ongoing activities, battles, politics, and the
    victories won by members of the "Health Freedom Movement" against the
    "quackbusters" It details "who the quackbusters are, what they are, where
    they are operating, when they appear, and how they operate - and how easy it
    is to beat them..."

    For background information on the "Battle between Health and Medicine" go
    to: "http://www.savedrclark.net/by_whom2.htm". A copy of THIS newsletter,
    and older ones, are viewable at the website
    "http://www.quackpotwatch.org/default.htm".

    For EVEN MORE interesting and related articles go to
    "http://www.bolenreport.com".

  5. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Federal Prison For Quackbusters?
    From: "Peter Moran" [email hidden]
    Date: 7/30/2003 8:02 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Yes, it is infinitely easier to attack the good faith of those concerned
    about the scamming of sick people,

    I simply do not believe that. You are here for one purpose, to try and stop all
    alternative. It has become a game of an EGO trip. You showed no compassion for
    Jesse Gelsinger or Ben Kolb, rather you did your dancing act, and you thought
    it was A OK that a LYING DISHONEST doctor who committed FRAUD, to remain on
    staff.

    You showed NO concern for these needless deaths, nor the fact that the
    procedure used that killed Ben Kolb was/is STILL being used.

    In addition you made remarks about emotions, as if these families should not be
    emotional over their dead kids.

    Quoted message said:

    Bolen is all mouth

    Far too much so, I totally agree, however he is doing an important job.

    Barrett and Baratz are not all mouth, are they Peter???

    We have already seen the despicable lies Bartaz told.

    But as usual, you will deny that also.

    Jan

  6. Peter Moran said:

    Yes, it is infinitely easier to attack the good faith of those concerned
    about the scamming of sick people, than to prop up the treatment claims of
    Hulda Clark and others.

    Bolen is all mouth. He once threatened to drag me into court over my
    criticiam of Hulda Clark. I provided him with my address and credentials
    and everything, and am still waiting.

    Peter Moran

    And I wrote to him suggesting that he take out a reverse class action
    against all Australians called Peter who thought Hulda Clark was a
    quack. He yawned in reply, but later asked for my lawyer's address so
    that he could pursue this interesting legal innovation.

    --
    Peter Bowditch [email hidden]
    The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
    The Green Light http://www.ratbags.com/greenlight
    I'm a Bright. Are you?

  7. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Peter Moran said:

    Yes, it is infinitely easier to attack the good faith of those concerned
    about the scamming of sick people, than to prop up the treatment claims of
    Hulda Clark and others.

    Indeed. That is the only way Bolen can possibly defend Clark, because he
    certainly can't use the facts.

    Quoted message said:

    Bolen is all mouth. He once threatened to drag me into court over my
    criticiam of Hulda Clark. I provided him with my address and credentials
    and everything, and am still waiting.

    He appears to be a spammer, too. Not too long ago, I somehow ended up on
    his "millions of health care freedom fighters" e-mail list without ever
    having visited his website or requested to be on his list. Although I
    have to concede the possibility that someone might have signed me up on
    his list in order to annoy me, that explanation seems unlikely given
    that most of the time such attacks involve being signed up for multiple
    mailing lists rather than just one. The more likely explanation for my
    ending up on his list is that Bolen probably harvests addresses from
    Usenet newsgroups related to health and alternative medicine and then
    adds them to his mailing list.
    --
    Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
    |
    |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
    | inconvenience me with questions?"

  8. "rb" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    Simply, I want the quackbuster conspirators to die in a Federal
    prison, or on the end of a rope,

    Or at the end of a sledge hammer - eh rb?

  9. In said:
    Quoted message said:

    From: "rb" [email hidden]
    Date: 7/30/2003 4:29 PM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Sadly, this is right on the money!!!

    Jan

    Jan, you may be predjudiced against Supernews, but many
    of us have found that they provide good service at very
    reasonable rates.

    Or, put another way, do you have ACTUAL EXPERIENCE with
    supernews?

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    | it more difficult for a software vendor to induce customers to pay |
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