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Quoted message said:>>The keystone of the current system is the prescriber and that person
is
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Quoted message said:the one who decides if the benefits of a drug outweigh the risks for
that patient, Woodcock said.<<
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Woodcock is wrong. The FDA makes such a decission long before the drug
even becomes available to provider and patient, and does it without
knowing the patient, and without suffering the patient's problems. And
that IS the problem.
SBH
You are obviously correct Steve on the first part. Efficacy must be
proven
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sees
it unless involved in a clinical trial.
Insurance companies will not pay for the drug otherwise as far as I am
aware
of.
Many insurance companies pay for chiropractic, naturopathy and other
conjecture-based mediciations.
That's correct Jeff. The reason behind that is most back pain gets better on
it's own and rather than seeing a medical specialist which costs much more
they have found it cheaper to tell them to go to alternate care.
The also pay for medications that are
Quoted message said:technically not medically necessary, like Viagra and Levetra.
That's correct but those are FDA approved and are very expensive.
Naturopathy is much more cheaper including tiger penis soup or rhino
testicles.
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Also, the insurance companies don't always pay for drugs that are FDA
approved, especially if there is a similar one already on their formulary.
They certainly wouldn't pay for a non FDA aprroved drug including research
drugs.
There are many statins, blood pressure meds etc on the market that most of
the time they will pay. Some insurance don't want to pay for newer drugs
sometimes like Medicare.
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Quoted message said:If such approval did not exist then the patient would have to pay for it
out of pocket and if that were to happen the price for the drug would
actually go down I believe.
Actually, unless a drug is approved by the FDA, it cannot be sold as a
drug
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Drugs sold in Canada are cheaper. People are buying viagra from Pakistan.
Just give them a credit card number.
I was giving a scenario in which the FDA were to be abolished then the drug
companies would set up their own organization because drugs would flood the
market and prices would go down.
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Quoted message said:The FDA and drug companies work together for obvious reasons. If the FDA
weren't there the drug companies would invent their own so called
independent body giving the blue seal of approval that they can market
as
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Actually, food supplements (think conjecture-based medicine, aka
alternative
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to
Quoted message said:be safe and effective.
That's why they do it is to advertise that it is FDA approved.
It is solely a marketing ploy as they don't need to do that.
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Quoted message said:It provides relative safety for the patient and a marketing device for
the
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Jeff
