Favourite Armstrong moment

mrsixtypercent said:

Favourite Armstrong moment - the world champ. You gota luv it.

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mrsixtypercent said:

Favourite Armstrong moment - the world champ. You gota luv it.

Is he wearing a world champ's jersey?! Why did nobody stop him? And
you know, he wasn't the youngest world champ either.

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Ewoud Dronkert said:

mrsixtypercent said:

Favourite Armstrong moment - the world champ. You gota luv it.

Is he wearing a world champ's jersey?! Why did nobody stop him? And
you know, he wasn't the youngest world champ either.

Youngest to win a stage in the Tour?

That was a strange race. Oslo apparently
waxed their streets.

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Ewoud Dronkert said:

mrsixtypercent said:

Favourite Armstrong moment - the world champ. You gota luv it.

Is he wearing a world champ's jersey?! Why did nobody stop him? And
you know, he wasn't the youngest world champ either.

Youngest to win a stage in the Tour?

That's what he said (and perhaps still saying). But I know al least ten
riders who were younger (there are probably much more). One of them is René
Vietto who already had won 6 stages at the age Armstrong won his first one.

Benjo

mrsixtypercent said:

Favourite Armstrong moment - the world champ. You gota luv it.

Damn! I wish I had put that clip in my Armstrong movie:

Mark
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Ewoud Dronkert said:

mrsixtypercent said:

Favourite Armstrong moment - the world champ. You gota luv it.

Is he wearing a world champ's jersey?! Why did nobody stop him?

Because he followed the UCI jersey rules at the time (pre 1999):

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And you know, he wasn't the youngest world champ either.

Well, they should take away that Youngest World Champ Jersey
then. (I guess that's the one that comes with a bib?)

Ben

Ewoud Dronkert said:

mrsixtypercent said:

Favourite Armstrong moment - the world champ. You gota luv it.

Is he wearing a world champ's jersey?! Why did nobody stop him? And
you know, he wasn't the youngest world champ either.

Yeah, but everybody knows that.

Bob Schwartz

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Ewoud Dronkert said:

Is he wearing a world champ's jersey?! Why did nobody stop him?

Because he followed the UCI jersey rules at the time (pre 1999):

Damn. Well OK. But it doesn't feel good.

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And you know, he wasn't the youngest world champ either.

Well, they should take away that Youngest World Champ Jersey
then. (I guess that's the one that comes with a bib?)

I had a correspondence with Pez (see "Pelo-Pics" section).

E.

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Ewoud Dronkert said:

mrsixtypercent said:

Favourite Armstrong moment - the world champ. You gota luv it.

Is he wearing a world champ's jersey?! Why did nobody stop him? And
you know, he wasn't the youngest world champ either.

Youngest to win a stage in the Tour?

That was a strange race. Oslo apparently
waxed their streets.

Yeah, it was bizarre. I had it on tape, and typically re-watch stuff
like that a bunch of times, but the odd falls were freaking me out so
I didn't.

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John Forrest Tomlinson said:

Yeah, it was bizarre. I had it on tape, and typically re-watch stuff
like that a bunch of times, but the odd falls were freaking me out so
I didn't.

There was an otherworldly quality, sort of slow
motion. Didn't Armstrong himself fall at least
a few times?

He may have been the youngest to crash twice
and still win the world championship.

Robert

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John Forrest Tomlinson said:

Yeah, it was bizarre. I had it on tape, and typically re-watch stuff
like that a bunch of times, but the odd falls were freaking me out so
I didn't.

There was an otherworldly quality, sort of slow
motion. Didn't Armstrong himself fall at least
a few times?

He may have been the youngest to crash twice
and still win the world championship.

I think he fell a couple of times. At one point early in the race
either he or Riis fall in a corner and pop right back up onto the
bike.
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Ewoud Dronkert said:

mrsixtypercent said:

Favourite Armstrong moment - the world champ. You gota luv it.

Is he wearing a world champ's jersey?! Why did nobody stop him? And
you know, he wasn't the youngest world champ either.

This must be a Brian L *Favourite Armstrong moment*. How much did the
flying pig weigh? Can you tell from the video?

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Ewoud Dronkert said:

On 12 Dec 2006 02:23:47 -0800, mrsixtypercent wrote:
> Favourite Armstrong moment - the world champ. You gota luv it.
>

Is he wearing a world champ's jersey?! Why did nobody stop him? And
you know, he wasn't the youngest world champ either.

Youngest to win a stage in the Tour?

That was a strange race. Oslo apparently
waxed their streets.

Yeah, it was bizarre. I had it on tape, and typically re-watch stuff
like that a bunch of times, but the odd falls were freaking me out so
I didn't.

You mean where people were falling off while trying to ride in a straight line?
Those were pretty ugly conditions. I remember Armstrong crashed at least once, maybe
more.

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SLAVE of THE STATE said:

This must be a Brian L *Favourite Armstrong moment*. How much did the
flying pig weigh? Can you tell from the video?

Flying pig ? I thought it was a dyeing illusion.

John Forrest Tomlinson said:

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Ewoud Dronkert said:

On 12 Dec 2006 02:23:47 -0800, mrsixtypercent wrote:
> Favourite Armstrong moment - the world champ. You gota luv it.
>

Is he wearing a world champ's jersey?! Why did nobody stop him? And
you know, he wasn't the youngest world champ either.

Youngest to win a stage in the Tour?

That was a strange race. Oslo apparently
waxed their streets.

Yeah, it was bizarre. I had it on tape, and typically re-watch stuff
like that a bunch of times, but the odd falls were freaking me out so
I didn't.

They resurfaced the roads the week before and the surfacing compound
they used had a bad interaction with the heavy rain on the day of the
men's race.

Yes, I remember that. I also remember that it was in the 16th
kilometer, so I suppose
less than 20 minutes into it. Afterwards, Armstrong said that he had no
clue how anyone
could ever ride a time trial so fast. Interestingly, Indurain and
Armstrong were possibly
the same weight at the time, so he lost around 10kg to get Indurain's
aerobic output
(slightly less because he is smaller, but not too much for these flat
roads).
It would seem impossible if it weren't true.

-ilan

mrsixtypercent said:

Favourite Armstrong moment - the world champ. You gota luv it.

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Yes, I remember that. I also remember that it was in the 16th
kilometer, so I suppose
less than 20 minutes into it. Afterwards, Armstrong said that he had no
clue how anyone
could ever ride a time trial so fast. Interestingly, Indurain and
Armstrong were possibly
the same weight at the time, so he lost around 10kg to get Indurain's
aerobic output
(slightly less because he is smaller, but not too much for these flat
roads).
It would seem impossible if it weren't true.

Riders are lying as much about their weight than supermodels, so one has to
be cautious about the "official" figures. Induráin clamed to be 79-80 kg,
but according to one of his gregario's it was usually one or two kg more.
Armstrong claimed to weigh 72 kg, but according to dr. Ferrari his ideal
Tour weight was 74. Armstrong also claimed to have weighted 82 kg before his
illness (to explain his fabulous improvement as a climber), but according
Hennie Kuiper, his team manager, it was about 77 kg.

Benjo

benjo maso said:

Riders are lying as much about their weight than supermodels, so one has to
be cautious about the "official" figures. Induráin clamed to be 79-80 kg,
but according to one of his gregario's it was usually one or two kg more.
Armstrong claimed to weigh 72 kg, but according to dr. Ferrari his ideal
Tour weight was 74. Armstrong also claimed to have weighted 82 kg before his
illness (to explain his fabulous improvement as a climber), but according
Hennie Kuiper, his team manager, it was about 77 kg.

There is FWIW some local agreement (rumor, scuttlebutt, maybe even
someone once saw LA step on a scale-- who knows?) from the early days
for the 82 (~180lbs) figure, which, also FWIW, I never had any problem
believing as I'm about the same height as Lance and that was what I
weighed in trim, non-TdF emaciated, masters (Vet, please!) non-fattie
racing weight back then, also.

As a parking lot crit racer, that was the thing about Indurain and
Armstrong I found most impressive-- the ability to get skinny and stay
strong. Professional help doing it included, still a pretty good trick,
and something I and any number of bike racers of all levels have
struggled with.

That said, the important number is "7". --D-y

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benjo maso said:

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Riders are lying as much about their weight than supermodels, so one has
to
be cautious about the "official" figures. Induráin clamed to be 79-80 kg,
but according to one of his gregario's it was usually one or two kg more.
Armstrong claimed to weigh 72 kg, but according to dr. Ferrari his ideal
Tour weight was 74. Armstrong also claimed to have weighted 82 kg before
his
illness (to explain his fabulous improvement as a climber), but according
Hennie Kuiper, his team manager, it was about 77 kg.

Quoted message said:

There is FWIW some local agreement (rumor, scuttlebutt, maybe even
someone once saw LA step on a scale-- who knows?) from the early days
for the 82 (~180lbs) figure, which, also FWIW, I never had any problem
believing as I'm about the same height as Lance and that was what I
weighed in trim, non-TdF emaciated, masters (Vet, please!) non-fattie
racing weight back then, also.

Kuiper said that at the beginning of the season Armstrong might have been 82
kg or even a little more, but not when the Tour started.

Quoted message said:

As a parking lot crit racer, that was the thing about Indurain and
Armstrong I found most impressive-- the ability to get skinny and stay
strong. Professional help doing it included, still a pretty good trick,
and something I and any number of bike racers of all levels have
struggled with.

True. For instance, Fransesco Moser was always a bit too heavy for the Alps
or the Dolomites, but when he managed to lose a few pounds, he immediately
lost a lot of power as well.

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That said, the important number is "7".

Exactly.

Benjo