Fat loss progress

Pentastar said:

Goal is 7% BF.

Why?

Pentastar said:

21 years old,.5'10"
On my fat loss program, I'm now currently at 141 lbs and 9.2% body fat
according to Tanita Scale using regular adult mode at sedentary
activity level setting. Goal is 7% BF.

How do you tell when your leptin levels drop and that it's time to
refeed?

At 5'10" and 141 pounds, you can tell it's time to refeed because a
light breeze blows you into the next county.

David

any relation to Leonard? He is a depressing ass clown

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Pentastar said:

Goal is 7% BF.

Why?

I'm at 7, and I love it. It's cool to be ripped. What don't you get? It's
good for him to have a goal to shoot for, for that matter. However, being
that light, I would want to gain muscle. Being low body fat and low
weight... now that's just gross.

Steve McDevitt said:

The Queen of Cans and Jars said:

Pentastar said:

Goal is 7% BF.

Why?

I'm at 7, and I love it.

Did I ask you?

Steve McDevitt said:

"The Queen of Cans and Jars" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Quoted message said:

Pentastar said:

Goal is 7% BF.

Why?

I'm at 7, and I love it. It's cool to be ripped. What don't you get?

YEAH, MICA, WHAT THE HELL DON'T YOU GET?!
--

The Queen of ~*Not*~ 7 Percent BF and ~*Never Gonna Be*~

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Pentastar <[email hidden]> wrote:

> Goal is 7% BF.

Why?

Quoted message said:

Steve McDevitt said:

I'm at 7, and I love it.

Did I ask you?

Post to Usenet often?

--
Curt
http://curtjames.com/

The Queen of Cans and Jars said:

Pentastar said:

Goal is 7% BF.

Why?

So, I will look better, I think.

To go on a tangent here,

There's a person called Ron Brown who does a book called the Body Fat
Guide. He has his own website, too, www.bodyfatguide.com . He's got
these wierd principles. He says that if you lift weights while you're
in a kcal deficit, then you will lose muscle.
Rubbish, I feel this is. Almost every post I've read on this usenet
section says that you have to do resistance exercise to maintain muscle
mass while trying to lose fat.

Also, Ron Brown says it's ok to do fast fat loss programs, like 2 lbs
every few days where you maintain 2,333 kcal deficits. Hmmm....yet,
he's against crash diets. Sounds hypocritical, doesn't it? Basically,
in this case, he tells you to walk 3.5 mph for hours and hours each day
and eat as low as 1,100 calories.

Myself? I would not recommend doing this unless you want to do costly
damage to your metabolism.

He sounds like quackery to me esp. after reading about his fast fat
loss pages on his site fairly recently.
I bet he's in this for the money.
..
Agree?

David Cohen said:

Pentastar said:

21 years old,.5'10"
On my fat loss program, I'm now currently at 141 lbs and 9.2% body fat
according to Tanita Scale using regular adult mode at sedentary
activity level setting. Goal is 7% BF.

How do you tell when your leptin levels drop and that it's time to
refeed?

At 5'10" and 141 pounds, you can tell it's time to refeed because a
light breeze blows you into the next county.

David

Clap:::Clap:::Clap:::LOL ;-D LOL:::Clap:::Clap:::Clap

Quoted message said:

From looking at my chart, it appears that I've been hitting baseline or

a little above at times in terms of intake. Whenever I have a social
gathering, holiday, or when going out to eat with friends/family, I
generally take a day off and eat at neutral or excess calories.
Usually, those are unplanned. However, it's done more or less seldomly.
On these days, I could consider them refeeds even though I didn't
actually plan them that way.

I 'could' say they were 'probably' beneficial for my fat loss even
though I didn't realize it as being beneficial. I'm not sure how much
more often I will need to refeed as I get to lower body fat levels.

When you do your refeed days, how do you generally do them?

On the other hand, I went and bought some more fish oil supplements for
EFA's. I'm taking 6 capsules 3xday w/ meals. I had also started taking
750mg Calcium Bis-Glycinate 3xday the other week.

Pentastar wrote

Quoted message said:

The Queen of Cans and Jars said:

Pentastar said:

Goal is 7% BF.

Why?

So, I will look better, I think.

To go on a tangent here,

There's a person called Ron Brown who does a book called the Body Fat
Guide. He has his own website, too, www.bodyfatguide.com . He's got
these wierd principles. He says that if you lift weights while you're
in a kcal deficit, then you will lose muscle.
Rubbish, I feel this is. Almost every post I've read on this usenet
section says that you have to do resistance exercise to maintain muscle
mass while trying to lose fat.

Also, Ron Brown says it's ok to do fast fat loss programs, like 2 lbs
every few days where you maintain 2,333 kcal deficits. Hmmm....yet,
he's against crash diets. Sounds hypocritical, doesn't it? Basically,
in this case, he tells you to walk 3.5 mph for hours and hours each day
and eat as low as 1,100 calories.

Myself? I would not recommend doing this unless you want to do costly
damage to your metabolism.

He sounds like quackery to me esp. after reading about his fast fat
loss pages on his site fairly recently.
I bet he's in this for the money.
.
Agree?

you can tell just by the layout of the page and by reading the headings that its a money making scam
--
RoT

Pentastar said:

David Cohen said:

Pentastar said:

21 years old,.5'10"
On my fat loss program, I'm now currently at 141 lbs and 9.2% body fat
according to Tanita Scale using regular adult mode at sedentary
activity level setting. Goal is 7% BF.

How do you tell when your leptin levels drop and that it's time to
refeed?

At 5'10" and 141 pounds, you can tell it's time to refeed because a
light breeze blows you into the next county.

David

Clap:::Clap:::Clap:::LOL ;-D LOL:::Clap:::Clap:::Clap

Quoted message said:

From looking at my chart, it appears that I've been hitting baseline or

a little above at times in terms of intake. Whenever I have a social
gathering, holiday, or when going out to eat with friends/family, I
generally take a day off and eat at neutral or excess calories.
Usually, those are unplanned. However, it's done more or less seldomly.
On these days, I could consider them refeeds even though I didn't
actually plan them that way.

I 'could' say they were 'probably' beneficial for my fat loss even
though I didn't realize it as being beneficial. I'm not sure how much
more often I will need to refeed as I get to lower body fat levels.

When you do your refeed days, how do you generally do them?

On the other hand, I went and bought some more fish oil supplements for
EFA's. I'm taking 6 capsules 3xday w/ meals. I had also started taking
750mg Calcium Bis-Glycinate 3xday the other week.

If you were 5'10" and 195 pounds at 9% trying to get to 7%, i'd say you
were a bodybuilder. At 5'10" and 141 pounds at 9% trying to get to 7%,
you have an eating disorder/body dysmorphic syndrome, and need to see a
psychiatrist.

And, no, I'm not joking. You need professional help.

David

Pentastar said:

The Queen of Cans and Jars said:

Pentastar said:

Goal is 7% BF.

Why?

So, I will look better, I think.

I don't think you will. Most people can't pull that off, and even on
the people who can it doesn't look all that good to me. It starts to
border on unnatural.

In article <[email hidden]>,

(The Queen of Cans and Jars) said:

Pentastar said:

The Queen of Cans and Jars said:

Pentastar <[email hidden]> wrote:

> Goal is 7% BF.

Why?

So, I will look better, I think.

I don't think you will. Most people can't pull that off, and even on
the people who can it doesn't look all that good to me. It starts to
border on unnatural.

Yeah.

They look like famine victims. ;-)
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

This from a body builder!!

"Pentastar" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Quoted message said:

The Queen of Cans and Jars said:

Pentastar said:

Goal is 7% BF.

Why?

So, I will look better, I think.

To go on a tangent here,

There's a person called Ron Brown who does a book called the Body Fat
Guide. He has his own website, too, www.bodyfatguide.com . He's got
these wierd principles. He says that if you lift weights while you're
in a kcal deficit, then you will lose muscle.
Rubbish, I feel this is. Almost every post I've read on this usenet
section says that you have to do resistance exercise to maintain muscle
mass while trying to lose fat.

Also, Ron Brown says it's ok to do fast fat loss programs, like 2 lbs
every few days where you maintain 2,333 kcal deficits. Hmmm....yet,
he's against crash diets. Sounds hypocritical, doesn't it? Basically,
in this case, he tells you to walk 3.5 mph for hours and hours each day
and eat as low as 1,100 calories.

Myself? I would not recommend doing this unless you want to do costly
damage to your metabolism.

He sounds like quackery to me esp. after reading about his fast fat
loss pages on his site fairly recently.
I bet he's in this for the money.
.
Agree?

Seen that site. Ignore it. Go to bodyrecomposition.com if you want better
info.

For your base question, if you're not stalling out I see no reason to
change anything. Some days a little above, most days a little below, keep
things moving in the direction you want, keep it up until they stop. Then
look for something more drastic if you're still not happy.

Hugh

--
Exercise is a dirty word. Whenever I hear it, I wash my mouth out with
chocolate. ("Ladi"😉

David Cohen said:

Pentastar said:

David Cohen said:

Pentastar wrote:
> 21 years old,.5'10"
> On my fat loss program, I'm now currently at 141 lbs and 9.2% body fat
> according to Tanita Scale using regular adult mode at sedentary
> activity level setting. Goal is 7% BF.
>
> How do you tell when your leptin levels drop and that it's time to
> refeed?

At 5'10" and 141 pounds, you can tell it's time to refeed because a
light breeze blows you into the next county.

David

Clap:::Clap:::Clap:::LOL ;-D LOL:::Clap:::Clap:::Clap

Quoted message said:

From looking at my chart, it appears that I've been hitting baseline or

a little above at times in terms of intake. Whenever I have a social
gathering, holiday, or when going out to eat with friends/family, I
generally take a day off and eat at neutral or excess calories.
Usually, those are unplanned. However, it's done more or less seldomly.
On these days, I could consider them refeeds even though I didn't
actually plan them that way.

I 'could' say they were 'probably' beneficial for my fat loss even
though I didn't realize it as being beneficial. I'm not sure how much
more often I will need to refeed as I get to lower body fat levels.

When you do your refeed days, how do you generally do them?

On the other hand, I went and bought some more fish oil supplements for
EFA's. I'm taking 6 capsules 3xday w/ meals. I had also started taking
750mg Calcium Bis-Glycinate 3xday the other week.

If you were 5'10" and 195 pounds at 9% trying to get to 7%, i'd say you
were a bodybuilder. At 5'10" and 141 pounds at 9% trying to get to 7%,
you have an eating disorder/body dysmorphic syndrome, and need to see a
psychiatrist.

And, no, I'm not joking. You need professional help.

David

Ok...whatever. I will mention, though, that I'm 'not' starting from
9.2%, but I had started from 14% months ago. I'm currently at 9.2% en
route to 7%. I've been doing this program for months. I forgot to note
this in my original post.

Not to be overly generic here, but you don't need to go up and jump to
conclusions here.
My original intent on my original post was to ask a couple of questions
about leptin levels and adaptations.

I just want a goal to strive for. And, of course, I would like to look
more cut as well. Anyone would, I suppose.

Kinda like wanting to see what your car can do by testing out it's top
speed on the interstate/highway (to like 120+ MPH) and 'manually
shifting' the automatic transmission, 1-2-D, to wind out the gears to
max RPM's (right before redline at times) and max speeds to squeeze out
more performance.

I like to compare a car to the human body. A fat loss program can be
like driving or traveling. Basically, traveling to your BF% goal.
Program Shifter Functions (like the auto transmission shifter
functions):
(P)ark = Off-Program
(R)everse = Refeed/Bulk-Up Mode
(N)eutral = Neutral Energy Balance/Maintenance Calories/Baseline Mode
(D)rive = Diet Mode (aka Sustained Cal Deficit Mode)
(2) = Kcal Mode 2/Low Cal Mode (high deficit mode)
(1) = Kcal Mode 1/Very Low Cal Mode (very high deficit mode)
Cruise Control = Nearly Constant Kcal intake, to provide a constant
Kcal Deficit day after day
MPH = Rate of Fat/Weight Loss, measured in average 'weekly' deficit.
FUEL = weekly avg intake of Kcal.
Stalling = Plateau
Oil Pressure = State of metabolism. In an engine low oil pressure
indicates poor condition.
RPM = how hard you're pushing your fat loss/cutting your calories
down/winding out your deficits, etc. 'Over-taching', or over-revving,
your fat loss program too much, for example, leads to muscle loss and
metabolism slowdown.
TRIP = Rolling Average Trend Weight/BF%
Odometer = Cumulative Deficit throughout program

On another note, I'm currently going to a technical college for a
2-year Associates Degree in Automotive Service Technician. I plan to be
a mechanic, get ASE certified, and eventually work at a Chrysler
dealership. I'm a Mopar/Chrysler freak e.g. the "pentastar" logo.
What I like to do sometimes is blend automotive concepts into my body
recomposition programs. pretty unique and very correlative.

"Pentastar" <[email hidden]> wrote
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Whatever, Mary Kate.

David

On 2 Dec 2005 20:17:15 -0800, "Pentastar" <[email hidden]>

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The Queen of Cans and Jars said:

Pentastar said:

Goal is 7% BF.

Why?

So, I will look better, I think.

To go on a tangent here,

There's a person called Ron Brown who does a book called the Body Fat
Guide. He has his own website, too, www.bodyfatguide.com . He's got
these wierd principles. He says that if you lift weights while you're
in a kcal deficit, then you will lose muscle.
Rubbish, I feel this is. Almost every post I've read on this usenet
section says that you have to do resistance exercise to maintain muscle
mass while trying to lose fat.

It seems to help fend off muscle wasting but some will occur if you
are losing a significant amount of overall bodyweight (unless you are
also on anabolic steroids). A confound in this scenario is if you are
a novice weighttrainer. I've seen some people have some pretty good
results maintaining their LBM when simultaneously starting both a
first-time diet and weight-training program. However, this is not
going to work when you get to a point where you body is resisting,
strongly, further reductions in BF%.

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On 3 Dec 2005 03:08:31 -0800, "David Cohen" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

On the other hand, I went and bought some more fish oil supplements for
EFA's. I'm taking 6 capsules 3xday w/ meals. I had also started taking
750mg Calcium Bis-Glycinate 3xday the other week.

If you were 5'10" and 195 pounds at 9% trying to get to 7%, i'd say you
were a bodybuilder. At 5'10" and 141 pounds at 9% trying to get to 7%,
you have an eating disorder/body dysmorphic syndrome, and need to see a
psychiatrist.

And, no, I'm not joking. You need professional help.

David

Don't those silly weight charts show 147 as the perfect bodyweight for
5'10"?

9% to 7% is going to probably cut deeply into both muscle and fat. He
may just not be aware he'll need to get to, I'm not getting my
calculator, like 115 lbs or something.

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