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  1. Original post
    Simon Mason
    Archived post
    #1

    The editor of the Mail on Sunday rang me today to discuss the fake letter
    published last Sunday under my name. He was most helpful and had access to
    the electoral register so he could confirm that I was the genuine Simon
    Mason. He also faxed me a copy of the fake letter shown here:

    http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/zfake.htm

    The blue text is my handwriting and as you can see, I print and don't use
    joined up letters.
    He checked the address used (nr 92) which was false and also the postcode is
    not a valid one, although the phone number is. It is my old one from 4 years
    ago presumably gleaned from an old telephone directory. Now I have a copy of
    this person's writing, I have set the following letter to the Hull Daily
    Mail.

    Any handwriting experts who can get a personality profile from the text?

    Dear Sir or Madam,

    You might be aware of the recent spate of anti cycling letters that have
    been published in the HDM under my name as well as Mr Howard Peel and Peter
    Minns. In each case the person behind this has used not only false names,
    but also false addresses.

    In my case I was allegedly living in "Bloomfield Road" - I left Bloomfield
    Avenue in 2000. Peter Minns was down as living in Tranby Lane, Anlaby and
    Howard Peel's address was Pickering Road, an address he left 12 years ago!

    I enclose a printout from your letter archives highlighting a series of
    letters by a "P. Scott" of Tranby Lane, Anlaby which is another fake name as
    no such person lives there according to the electoral register. The profile
    of this person fits exactly with the person hijacking our names. It is a
    one-track message, clamp down on cyclists with no lights etc.

    This person has now gone national. In last Sunday's (4 JUL 04) Mail on
    Sunday the enclosed letter was published. Again, my name was used along with
    a false address and non-existent postcode. The phone number however is
    valid, except it is of my previous address in Bloomfield Avenue and no doubt
    obtained from an old phone directory.

    Is there any chance of matching up the hand writing with any of the letters
    in your archive to see who is behind these letters?

    Yours Faithfully,

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  2. Dr Curious
    Archived post
    #2

    "Andy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Simon Mason" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    The editor of the Mail on Sunday rang me today to discuss the fake


    letter

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    published last Sunday under my name. He was most helpful and had access


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the electoral register so he could confirm that I was the genuine Simon
    Mason. He also faxed me a copy of the fake letter shown here:

    http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/zfake.htm

    The blue text is my handwriting and as you can see, I print and don't


    use

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    joined up letters.
    He checked the address used (nr 92) which was false and also the


    postcode

    Quoted message said:

    is

    Quoted message said:

    not a valid one, although the phone number is. It is my old one from 4


    years

    Quoted message said:

    ago presumably gleaned from an old telephone directory. Now I have a


    copy

    Quoted message said:

    of

    Quoted message said:

    this person's writing, I have set the following letter to the Hull


    Daily

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Mail.

    Any handwriting experts who can get a personality profile from the


    text?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Dear Sir or Madam,

    You might be aware of the recent spate of anti cycling letters that


    have

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    been published in the HDM under my name as well as Mr Howard Peel and


    Peter

    Quoted message said:

    Minns. In each case the person behind this has used not only false


    names,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    but also false addresses.

    In my case I was allegedly living in "Bloomfield Road" - I left


    Bloomfield

    Quoted message said:

    Avenue in 2000. Peter Minns was down as living in Tranby Lane, Anlaby


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Howard Peel's address was Pickering Road, an address he left 12 years


    ago!

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    I enclose a printout from your letter archives highlighting a series


    of

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    letters by a "P. Scott" of Tranby Lane, Anlaby which is another fake


    name

    Quoted message said:

    as

    Quoted message said:

    no such person lives there according to the electoral register. The


    profile

    Quoted message said:

    of this person fits exactly with the person hijacking our names. It is


    a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    one-track message, clamp down on cyclists with no lights etc.

    This person has now gone national. In last Sunday's (4 JUL 04) Mail on
    Sunday the enclosed letter was published. Again, my name was used along


    with

    Quoted message said:

    a false address and non-existent postcode. The phone number however is
    valid, except it is of my previous address in Bloomfield Avenue and no


    doubt

    Quoted message said:

    obtained from an old phone directory.

    Is there any chance of matching up the hand writing with any of the


    letters

    Quoted message said:

    in your archive to see who is behind these letters?

    Yours Faithfully,

    Hmmm, has the style (in handwriting terms) of an older person.

    What may be surprising to anyone who regularly sends scruplously
    typed letters to Newspapers, a National Newspaper in this case, is
    just how badly written, almost illegible some of this letter
    appears to be.

    A cynic might even suggest that a Newspaper will make the effort
    to decipher just about any old scrawl, providing the views it
    expresses, are the ones it most wants to here.

    Curious

    Quoted message said:
    Report
  3. Andy
    Archived post
    #3

    "Simon Mason" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    The editor of the Mail on Sunday rang me today to discuss the fake letter
    published last Sunday under my name. He was most helpful and had access to
    the electoral register so he could confirm that I was the genuine Simon
    Mason. He also faxed me a copy of the fake letter shown here:

    http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/zfake.htm

    The blue text is my handwriting and as you can see, I print and don't use
    joined up letters.
    He checked the address used (nr 92) which was false and also the postcode


    is

    Quoted message said:

    not a valid one, although the phone number is. It is my old one from 4


    years

    Quoted message said:

    ago presumably gleaned from an old telephone directory. Now I have a copy


    of

    Quoted message said:

    this person's writing, I have set the following letter to the Hull Daily
    Mail.

    Any handwriting experts who can get a personality profile from the text?

    Dear Sir or Madam,

    You might be aware of the recent spate of anti cycling letters that have
    been published in the HDM under my name as well as Mr Howard Peel and


    Peter

    Quoted message said:

    Minns. In each case the person behind this has used not only false names,
    but also false addresses.

    In my case I was allegedly living in "Bloomfield Road" - I left


    Bloomfield

    Quoted message said:

    Avenue in 2000. Peter Minns was down as living in Tranby Lane, Anlaby and
    Howard Peel's address was Pickering Road, an address he left 12 years ago!

    I enclose a printout from your letter archives highlighting a series of
    letters by a "P. Scott" of Tranby Lane, Anlaby which is another fake name


    as

    Quoted message said:

    no such person lives there according to the electoral register. The


    profile

    Quoted message said:

    of this person fits exactly with the person hijacking our names. It is a
    one-track message, clamp down on cyclists with no lights etc.

    This person has now gone national. In last Sunday's (4 JUL 04) Mail on
    Sunday the enclosed letter was published. Again, my name was used along


    with

    Quoted message said:

    a false address and non-existent postcode. The phone number however is
    valid, except it is of my previous address in Bloomfield Avenue and no


    doubt

    Quoted message said:

    obtained from an old phone directory.

    Is there any chance of matching up the hand writing with any of the


    letters

    Quoted message said:

    in your archive to see who is behind these letters?

    Yours Faithfully,

    Hmmm, has the style (in handwriting terms) of an older person.

    Report
  4. Howard
    Archived post
    #4

    Hi Simon,

    I must say 'The Mail om Sunday' has gone up in my estimation (a
    little) for taking this seriously. I still haven't heard a word from
    'The Hull Daily Mail'. (Which, interestingly enough, is owned by the
    same poeple who own the national 'Daily Hate Mail'.

    Keep us posted!

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  5. jtaylor
    Archived post
    #5

    Simon Mason <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Any handwriting experts who can get a personality profile from the text?

    Don't bother - this is not possible.

    "Unfortunately for the graphologists, scientific research has found no clear
    correlation between handwriting behavior and basic personality patterns."

    http://www.ntskeptics.org/factsheets/graphol.htm

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  6. Ambrose Nankivell
    Archived post
    #6

    In news:[email hidden],
    jtaylor <[email hidden]> typed:

    Quoted message said:

    Simon Mason <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Any handwriting experts who can get a personality profile from the
    text?

    Don't bother - this is not possible.

    "Unfortunately for the graphologists, scientific research has found
    no clear correlation between handwriting behavior and basic
    personality patterns."

    http://www.ntskeptics.org/factsheets/graphol.htm

    I imagine it can tell you quite a lot about the state of mind someone was in
    when they were writing, though. Like how agitated they were.

    Just like the time of year that someone was born may well have some
    influence on their personality, I guess.

    A

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