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  1. Heyo,
    I was in a local sign company yesterday (to order lexan) and I noticed one
    of the jobs they were doing was printing off decals for a customer. The
    decal sheets included 2 "Eddie Merckx" logos I think were white text with
    black outline. A few other logos (made in belgium) and an outline of Italy.
    Then there was "TITANIUM AX" in a fairly ugly gold fading gradient.

    The customer wanted 100 of these sheets made.

    I figured maybe these would be replacement stickers, but after realizing how
    greasy people are on ebay.. I can totally picture someone sticking these on
    some generic frames and putting them on ebay.

    Hmmm...

    Mike
    http://mikebeauchamp.com

  2. On my Merckx AX ('96 vintage) the decals are not clear-coated and are therefore
    fragile. I could imagine having to replace 'em someday... but 100 sets???

    Mike Yankee

    (Address is munged to thwart spammers.
    To reply, delete everything after "com".)

  3. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Mike Beauchamp said:

    Heyo,
    I was in a local sign company yesterday (to order lexan) and I noticed one
    of the jobs they were doing was printing off decals for a customer. The
    decal sheets included 2 "Eddie Merckx" logos I think were white text with
    black outline. A few other logos (made in belgium) and an outline of Italy.
    Then there was "TITANIUM AX" in a fairly ugly gold fading gradient.

    The customer wanted 100 of these sheets made.

    I figured maybe these would be replacement stickers, but after realizing how
    greasy people are on ebay.. I can totally picture someone sticking these on
    some generic frames and putting them on ebay.

    Hmmm...

    Whoa! That's pretty creepy!

    Is there any chance these were for a legit purpose? I mean, are you
    close to the warehouse of Merckx's US distributor?

    I just don't see an aftermarket resale outlet for a hundred Merckx Ti
    decal sets...

    --
    Ryan Cousineau, [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com
    President, Fabrizio Mazzoleni Fan Club

  4. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Mike Beauchamp said:

    Heyo,
    I was in a local sign company yesterday (to order lexan) and I noticed one
    of the jobs they were doing was printing off decals for a customer. The
    decal sheets included 2 "Eddie Merckx" logos I think were white text with
    black outline. A few other logos (made in belgium) and an outline of Italy.
    Then there was "TITANIUM AX" in a fairly ugly gold fading gradient.

    The customer wanted 100 of these sheets made.

    I figured maybe these would be replacement stickers, but after realizing how
    greasy people are on ebay.. I can totally picture someone sticking these on
    some generic frames and putting them on ebay.

    Hmmm...

    Whoa! That's pretty creepy!

    Is there any chance these were for a legit purpose? I mean, are you
    close to the warehouse of Merckx's US distributor?

    I just don't see an aftermarket resale outlet for a hundred Merckx Ti
    decal sets...

    --
    Ryan Cousineau, [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com
    President, Fabrizio Mazzoleni Fan Club

  5. Hey Ryan, I'm in Canada actually.

    There's always the chance that they are for legit purposes, but I don't see
    it. As you said, I can't picture 100 people needing replacement decals.
    Also, it seems like the decals weren't of great quality.

    On the EM logo or whatever, it is black with a gold trim right? On these
    decals it just looked gold-ish, it didn't have the actual gold effect.
    (like, if you were to use your printer to print off something gold). It
    seems like it would be something "good enough" for only a desperate person
    looking for a good deal (hence the ebay assumption).

    Mike

    "Ryan Cousineau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Mike Beauchamp said:

    Heyo,
    I was in a local sign company yesterday (to order lexan) and I noticed


    one

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    of the jobs they were doing was printing off decals for a customer. The
    decal sheets included 2 "Eddie Merckx" logos I think were white text


    with

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    black outline. A few other logos (made in belgium) and an outline of


    Italy.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Then there was "TITANIUM AX" in a fairly ugly gold fading gradient.

    The customer wanted 100 of these sheets made.

    I figured maybe these would be replacement stickers, but after realizing


    how

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    greasy people are on ebay.. I can totally picture someone sticking these


    on

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    some generic frames and putting them on ebay.

    Hmmm...

    Whoa! That's pretty creepy!

    Is there any chance these were for a legit purpose? I mean, are you
    close to the warehouse of Merckx's US distributor?

    I just don't see an aftermarket resale outlet for a hundred Merckx Ti
    decal sets...

    --
    Ryan Cousineau, [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com
    President, Fabrizio Mazzoleni Fan Club

  6. "Ryan Cousineau" wrote: (clip) I just don't see an aftermarket resale
    outlet for a hundred Merckx Ti decal sets...
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^
    The guy probably ordered 100 because getting a smaller number wouldn't have
    been any cheaper.

  7. I dont' think that's the case, teh order was going ot be 50, then he raised
    it to 100.

    "Leo Lichtman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Ryan Cousineau" wrote: (clip) I just don't see an aftermarket resale
    outlet for a hundred Merckx Ti decal sets...
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^
    The guy probably ordered 100 because getting a smaller number wouldn't


    have

    Quoted message said:

    been any cheaper.

  8. "Mike Beauchamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Heyo,
    I was in a local sign company yesterday (to order lexan) and I noticed one
    of the jobs they were doing was printing off decals for a customer. The
    decal sheets included 2 "Eddie Merckx" logos I think were white text with
    black outline. A few other logos (made in belgium) and an outline of Italy.
    Then there was "TITANIUM AX" in a fairly ugly gold fading gradient.

    The customer wanted 100 of these sheets made.

    I figured maybe these would be replacement stickers, but after realizing how
    greasy people are on ebay.. I can totally picture someone sticking these on
    some generic frames and putting them on ebay.

    Having worked in a print and sign shop...

    They once printed a whole bunch of "old" DuBois Brewing Company labels
    for some person. They eventually showed up on Ebay on new beer bottles.

  9. Mike Beauchamp said:

    I dont' think that's the case, teh order was going ot be 50, then he raised
    it to 100.

    I could think of one legitimate usage: He's a retailer (perhap's online),
    who sells replacement decals. But 100 would be a lot even for someone who
    ran that sort of business.

    --
    Dane Jackson - z u v e m b i @ u n i x b i g o t s . o r g
    "Protecting the children is a good way to get a lot of adults
    who cant stand up for themselves" -J. Stecher

  10. So, i guess the question is..
    What SHOULD I do? Or what CAN I even do?

    Even if I wait for them to appear on ebay, all I can do is give a "heads up"
    in here. I've contacted ebay about stolen [censored] on there (my friends stuff!)
    and they never took it down.

    Mike

    "Dane Jackson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Mike Beauchamp said:

    I dont' think that's the case, teh order was going ot be 50, then he


    raised

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    it to 100.

    I could think of one legitimate usage: He's a retailer (perhap's online),
    who sells replacement decals. But 100 would be a lot even for someone who
    ran that sort of business.

    --
    Dane Jackson - z u v e m b i @ u n i x b i g o t s . o r g
    "Protecting the children is a good way to get a lot of adults
    who cant stand up for themselves" -J. Stecher

  11. Mike Beauchamp said:

    So, i guess the question is..
    What SHOULD I do? Or what CAN I even do?

    Even if I wait for them to appear on ebay, all I can do is give a "heads up"
    in here. I've contacted ebay about stolen [censored] on there (my friends stuff!)
    and they never took it down.

    Denounce him to the authorities in a letter, and keep the letter on
    file.

    I wonder if a quick letter to the Eddy Merckx bike works might not be
    in order, as well.....

    -Luigi

    Quoted message said:


    Mike

    "Dane Jackson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Mike Beauchamp said:

    I dont' think that's the case, teh order was going ot be 50, then he


    raised

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    it to 100.

    I could think of one legitimate usage: He's a retailer (perhap's online),
    who sells replacement decals. But 100 would be a lot even for someone who
    ran that sort of business.

    --
    Dane Jackson - z u v e m b i @ u n i x b i g o t s . o r g
    "Protecting the children is a good way to get a lot of adults
    who cant stand up for themselves" -J. Stecher


  12. Thank you Luigi.. I can't seem to find any contact information for the Eddie
    Merckx bike works or anything.

    I'll go to the sign company tomorrow and get more details as well.

    Mike

    "Luigi de Guzman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Mike Beauchamp said:

    So, i guess the question is..
    What SHOULD I do? Or what CAN I even do?

    Even if I wait for them to appear on ebay, all I can do is give a "heads


    up"

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    in here. I've contacted ebay about stolen [censored] on there (my friends


    stuff!)

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and they never took it down.

    Denounce him to the authorities in a letter, and keep the letter on
    file.

    I wonder if a quick letter to the Eddy Merckx bike works might not be
    in order, as well.....

    -Luigi

    Quoted message said:


    Mike

    "Dane Jackson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Mike Beauchamp <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > I dont' think that's the case, teh order was going ot be 50, then he


    raised

    Quoted message said:

    > it to 100.

    I could think of one legitimate usage: He's a retailer (perhap's


    online),

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    who sells replacement decals. But 100 would be a lot even for someone


    who

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    ran that sort of business.

    --
    Dane Jackson - z u v e m b i @ u n i x b i g o t s . o r g
    "Protecting the children is a good way to get a lot of adults
    who cant stand up for themselves" -J. Stecher



  13. People are so greasy sometimes..

    "R.White" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Mike Beauchamp" <[email hidden]> wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Heyo,
    I was in a local sign company yesterday (to order lexan) and I noticed


    one

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    of the jobs they were doing was printing off decals for a customer. The
    decal sheets included 2 "Eddie Merckx" logos I think were white text


    with

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    black outline. A few other logos (made in belgium) and an outline of


    Italy.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Then there was "TITANIUM AX" in a fairly ugly gold fading gradient.

    The customer wanted 100 of these sheets made.

    I figured maybe these would be replacement stickers, but after realizing


    how

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    greasy people are on ebay.. I can totally picture someone sticking these


    on

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    some generic frames and putting them on ebay.

    Having worked in a print and sign shop...

    They once printed a whole bunch of "old" DuBois Brewing Company labels
    for some person. They eventually showed up on Ebay on new beer bottles.

  14. Mike Beauchamp said:

    Thank you Luigi.. I can't seem to find any contact information for the Eddie
    Merckx bike works or anything.

    There's contact info on their website:

    http://www.eddymerckx.be/

    - khill

  15. Thank you.. I couldn't find their website.

    Mike

    "khill" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Mike Beauchamp said:

    Thank you Luigi.. I can't seem to find any contact information for the


    Eddie

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Merckx bike works or anything.

    There's contact info on their website:

    http://www.eddymerckx.be/

    - khill

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