Failed...sort of

Hahaha.

--
You take stupid to a new level. -- MFW

"curt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Well, some of you know I am floating out there trying to eat a so-called
balanced diet. You know, the one the government tells us is good. Well,
I
can't seem to really get it under control. This Monday, I started LC to
get
10 lbs off and yesterday I took a trip to Buffalo. I ate a hot dog with
bun
and some wings. I had no problem with that, because it was a sort of
tribute to my mum who passed last year and lived in Buffalo for part of
her
childhood. Anyway, when the real trouble began was at night. A friend
called and asked if I wanted to go out and have a beer. At first I said
no,
knowing that beer is a problem for me. Then after a while, I ended up
having one. It turned into three beers. That isn't that bad, but I
hadn't
had dinner yet. So, I ate some onion rings. Then a large slice of pizza.
Then I had Galibakuliko or how ever you pronounce or spell the Greek
custard
with puff pastries and a honey-like sauce.

I couldn't get to sleep last night, due to all the sugar. My body was
vibrating. Not sure if anyone here has experienced that after eating too
much sugar, but it is not pleasant when you want to sleep.

I can't seem to handle maintaining on another diet very well. I am around
188-9 right now, but would really want to get down to 180. I am running
and
riding my bike, but not enough. I am missing multiple days and eating too
much food. I guess the bottom line is, I just eat too much as my norm.
When I was a kid, I could eat so much food, it was amazing, but as I get
older (39), it gets harder it seems. I still just eat way too much food.

Anyway, I am back on Induction today. I need to drop the 10 and try
again.
If I could just eat in moderation, I am sure I can eat what I want to a
point, but it is true cravings are higher when you eat carbs. It is
something that I must get used to if I want to eat all types of food. It
is
important to me to be able to eat all types because I am really a food
lover. I love to try all types of food.

So I am back here with you good folks. Hope everyone is doing well. At
least I didn't get way out of control being that I am just 10 over.

Take care,
Curt

--
211/189/180. . 6'2"
Age 39
Highest weight 250 5+ years ago

curt wrote:
|| Well, some of you know I am floating out there trying to eat a
|| so-called balanced diet. You know, the one the government tells us
|| is good. Well, I can't seem to really get it under control. This
|| Monday, I started LC to get 10 lbs off and yesterday I took a trip
|| to Buffalo. I ate a hot dog with bun and some wings. I had no
|| problem with that, because it was a sort of tribute to my mum who
|| passed last year and lived in Buffalo for part of her childhood.
|| Anyway, when the real trouble began was at night. A friend called
|| and asked if I wanted to go out and have a beer. At first I said
|| no, knowing that beer is a problem for me. Then after a while, I
|| ended up having one. It turned into three beers. That isn't that
|| bad, but I hadn't had dinner yet. So, I ate some onion rings. Then
|| a large slice of pizza. Then I had Galibakuliko or how ever you
|| pronounce or spell the Greek custard with puff pastries and a
|| honey-like sauce.
||
|| I couldn't get to sleep last night, due to all the sugar. My body
|| was vibrating. Not sure if anyone here has experienced that after
|| eating too much sugar, but it is not pleasant when you want to sleep.
||
|| I can't seem to handle maintaining on another diet very well. I am
|| around 188-9 right now, but would really want to get down to 180. I
|| am running and riding my bike, but not enough. I am missing
|| multiple days and eating too much food. I guess the bottom line is,
|| I just eat too much as my norm. When I was a kid, I could eat so
|| much food, it was amazing, but as I get older (39), it gets harder
|| it seems. I still just eat way too much food.
||
|| Anyway, I am back on Induction today. I need to drop the 10 and try
|| again. If I could just eat in moderation, I am sure I can eat what I
|| want to a point, but it is true cravings are higher when you eat
|| carbs. It is something that I must get used to if I want to eat all
|| types of food. It is important to me to be able to eat all types
|| because I am really a food lover. I love to try all types of food.
||
|| So I am back here with you good folks. Hope everyone is doing well.
|| At least I didn't get way out of control being that I am just 10
|| over.

Curt -- some of us, like me, don't do moderation, especially with carbs. I
wonder if you're like me.

Hang tight.

"JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:kH5jd.9043

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Hahaha.

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"curt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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tribute to my mum who passed last year and lived in Buffalo for part of
her
childhood.

Do you have any life at all? Is there any way of posting on here when you
will not be the first to respond? I suggest you get a life and spend a
little less time on the computer. I feel sorry for you. I am certain you
are on meds, but you may want to suggest to your doctor, you need a higher
dose or maybe try something a little stronger. Possibly shock therapy and
multiple drugs would work for you.

I hope you get the help you need. Maybe that way, you will get a friend and
not be so lonely.

Concerned for your well-being.
Curt

Welcome back curt. I'm glad you're catching it while it's just 10. :-)

--
Cheri

curt wrote in message ...

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So I am back here with you good folks. Hope everyone is doing well.

At

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least I didn't get way out of control being that I am just 10 over.

Take care,
Curt

--
211/189/180. . 6'2"
Age 39
Highest weight 250 5+ years ago

And me. :-)

--
Cheri

Roger Zoul wrote in message <[email hidden]>...

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Curt -- some of us, like me, don't do moderation, especially with

carbs. I

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wonder if you're like me.

Hang tight.

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Curt -- some of us, like me, don't do moderation, especially with carbs.

I

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wonder if you're like me.

Hang tight.

Yeah, it is a mental thing I guess. I am going to get down to 180 and give
it another go. Just eating in moderation will work. I guess I could count
calories for a while when I go back off. I am sure physically I can eat
carbs and so-on, but if you eat too much, you eat too much.

Enjoy,
Curt

Your saga underscores the problem with using LC as a diet, rather than a new
way of life.

It takes time, and very low carbs to lose carb cravings. I'm not sure how
high carbs can be without causing the desire for carbs to return. I
strongly suspect that the occasional cheating that some folks advocate is
one of the ways it happens.

Cubit
311/208/165

Try losing some weight, fatboy.

Hahaha.

--
You take stupid to a new level. -- MFW

"curt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:kH5jd.9043

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Hahaha.

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"curt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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tribute to my mum who passed last year and lived in Buffalo for part of
her
childhood.

Do you have any life at all? Is there any way of posting on here when you
will not be the first to respond? I suggest you get a life and spend a
little less time on the computer. I feel sorry for you. I am certain you
are on meds, but you may want to suggest to your doctor, you need a higher
dose or maybe try something a little stronger. Possibly shock therapy and
multiple drugs would work for you.

I hope you get the help you need. Maybe that way, you will get a friend
and
not be so lonely.

Concerned for your well-being.
Curt

curt said:

Is there any way of posting on here when you will not be the first to
respond?

learn to use your killfile. or, if you can't do that, don't even open
his posts if you already know you don't want to read them.

I agree, when you eat a piece of cake for example, you crave more cake the
following day. Lets say I eat a dinner that is good and eat a piece of
cake. It seems like I am more hungry the following day due to the cake. It
happens time and time again. Now, this is mental. Your body doesn't need
that cake the following day, but you crave it. I hope to beat the mental
part of this game. Will I be more hungry? Yes, but I feel it is worth it
to me due to how much I enjoy different foods. Will today be hard, because
I had all that sweet stuff? Yes, but I know that and will just be hungry
today. It isn't the end of the world to be hungry. Must keep busy today.
I know my body physically doesn't need what I am craving, so I must fight.

Hey, it is all just an experience. If all else fails for me, I will just be
a LC'er in the end of this journey. It is fun trying all this [censored] anyway.

Curt

"Cubit" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Your saga underscores the problem with using LC as a diet, rather than a

new

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way of life.

It takes time, and very low carbs to lose carb cravings. I'm not sure how
high carbs can be without causing the desire for carbs to return. I
strongly suspect that the occasional cheating that some folks advocate is
one of the ways it happens.

Cubit
311/208/165

Going hungry is risky. Nature has the advantage. May I suggest adding just
enough of the allowed foods to stop the hunger. In a few weeks the amount
of food needed to just stave off hunger will likely be smaller.

It can help to have tiny meals every few hours, and not have the large
traditional 3 meals a day.

"curt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I agree, when you eat a piece of cake for example, you crave more cake the
following day. Lets say I eat a dinner that is good and eat a piece of
cake. It seems like I am more hungry the following day due to the cake.

It

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happens time and time again. Now, this is mental. Your body doesn't need
that cake the following day, but you crave it. I hope to beat the mental
part of this game. Will I be more hungry? Yes, but I feel it is worth it
to me due to how much I enjoy different foods. Will today be hard,

because

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I had all that sweet stuff? Yes, but I know that and will just be hungry
today. It isn't the end of the world to be hungry. Must keep busy today.
I know my body physically doesn't need what I am craving, so I must fight.

Hey, it is all just an experience. If all else fails for me, I will just

be

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a LC'er in the end of this journey. It is fun trying all this [censored]

anyway.

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Curt

"Cubit" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Your saga underscores the problem with using LC as a diet, rather than a

new

Quoted message said:

way of life.

It takes time, and very low carbs to lose carb cravings. I'm not sure

how

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

high carbs can be without causing the desire for carbs to return. I
strongly suspect that the occasional cheating that some folks advocate

is

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one of the ways it happens.

Cubit
311/208/165

"Cubit" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Going hungry is risky. Nature has the advantage. May I suggest adding

just

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enough of the allowed foods to stop the hunger. In a few weeks the amount
of food needed to just stave off hunger will likely be smaller.

It can help to have tiny meals every few hours, and not have the large
traditional 3 meals a day.

Actually, I do eat more than 3 times a day usually. I split my lunch and
sometimes depending on how much I worked out, I have a small snack at night.

This hunger cannot be real. If you were to count you calories during that
day after having that cake and if you listened to what your body is
supposedly telling you, you would over-eat again. Well, I should say if I
would count my calories. I think many people can relate to this situation
though.

Anyway, I am looking forward to getting back down to 180. If I can weigh
around that by January, I am hoping to be ripped by Spring.

curt

Do you really think it's mental? I think it's at least partly physical.
If carbs are messing with your blood sugar, then your body can feel hungry
even when it doesn't need food. I really do think for some people, very
carby foods act just like an addictive chemical in the body. Of course
it's _possible_ to eat these foods in moderation and just tough out the
cravings, but think about it. Would you recommend that approach to an
alcoholic or a smoker? I don't think the approach needs to be as strict as
with addictions to alcohol and other drugs, but it does need to have some
level of strategy. I have found that if I eat something carby for a
special occasion, I can kill later cravings by eating something low-carb
and filling _before_ I get very hungry again, like some cheese cubes or a
couple of hardboiled eggs.

In article <sr6jd.286$gS1.275@trndny04>, "curt" <[email hidden]>

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I agree, when you eat a piece of cake for example, you crave more cake the
following day. Lets say I eat a dinner that is good and eat a piece of
cake. It seems like I am more hungry the following day due to the cake. It
happens time and time again. Now, this is mental. Your body doesn't need
that cake the following day, but you crave it. I hope to beat the mental
part of this game. Will I be more hungry? Yes, but I feel it is worth it
to me due to how much I enjoy different foods. Will today be hard, because
I had all that sweet stuff? Yes, but I know that and will just be hungry
today. It isn't the end of the world to be hungry. Must keep busy today.
I know my body physically doesn't need what I am craving, so I must fight.

Hey, it is all just an experience. If all else fails for me, I will just be
a LC'er in the end of this journey. It is fun trying all this [censored] anyway.

Curt

"Cubit" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Your saga underscores the problem with using LC as a diet, rather than a

new

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way of life.

It takes time, and very low carbs to lose carb cravings. I'm not sure how
high carbs can be without causing the desire for carbs to return. I
strongly suspect that the occasional cheating that some folks advocate is
one of the ways it happens.

Cubit
311/208/165

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

In my calorie charting, my avoiding hunger with minimal eating seems to
guide me to an average number of calories across a 2 month period. Thus, if
my calories averaged 100 higher than normal last month, I am likely to have
a slightly lower than average calorie average this month. Day to day my
calories bounce up and down from 600 to 2500, but the 2 month average is
very consistent around 1400. YMMV

If correct, extra calories today will have no apparent effect on hunger
today.

In a study, test subjects fed from a spout needed about two weeks to adjust
their shake-like food volume in response to a change in the food's calorie
content/density.

"curt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Cubit" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Going hungry is risky. Nature has the advantage. May I suggest adding

just

Quoted message said:

enough of the allowed foods to stop the hunger. In a few weeks the

amount

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

of food needed to just stave off hunger will likely be smaller.

It can help to have tiny meals every few hours, and not have the large
traditional 3 meals a day.

Actually, I do eat more than 3 times a day usually. I split my lunch and
sometimes depending on how much I worked out, I have a small snack at

night.

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This hunger cannot be real. If you were to count you calories during that
day after having that cake and if you listened to what your body is
supposedly telling you, you would over-eat again. Well, I should say if I
would count my calories. I think many people can relate to this situation
though.

Anyway, I am looking forward to getting back down to 180. If I can weigh
around that by January, I am hoping to be ripped by Spring.

curt

curt said:

I agree, when you eat a piece of cake for example, you crave more cake the
following day. Lets say I eat a dinner that is good and eat a piece of
cake. It seems like I am more hungry the following day due to the cake.

It

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happens time and time again. Now, this is mental.

No Curt, it is not mental. It's not just me and you and other LC-ers who
feel hungrier the next day after a big meal with lots of carbs. My average
sized friends at work also have the same experience. People at work would
go for curry once in a while and we often eat an awful lot of chapati, nan
bread, rice, so much that we would feel totally stuffed. (I have been bad
and I totally deserve losing so slowly.) A few people have said to me that
they are surprised to find themselves feeling ravenous the next morning
after having eaten so much the night before.

After reading your post, I think it looks like you need to go back to low
carb. Drink beer, eat cake, eat pizza, but only do it very very moderately
and preferably when you're alone so that you eat what you should eat for
your health intead of eating what your friends expect you to eat.

curt said:

Anyway, I am back on Induction today. I need to drop the 10 and try again.
If I could just eat in moderation, I am sure I can eat what I want to a
point, but it is true cravings are higher when you eat carbs. It is
something that I must get used to if I want to eat all types of food. It is
important to me to be able to eat all types because I am really a food
lover. I love to try all types of food.

Curt,

I also really love food. All different kinds of food. For keeping my
weight down though, low carb is the way to go, *for the most part*. The
way I try to strike the balance between eating low carb, and eating what
I want, is the following. I eat low carb most of the time. I cook
meals without a carb component for my family almost every night. If I
am not the cook, I try to skip the carby part of the meal. I ate at a
banquet the other day and skipped the potatoes. If I wanted a hotdog, I
would skip the bun, because I find that the bun really isn't the part
that tastes good anyway.

But, when I have an opportunity to eat something really interesting (to
me!), I take it, but with the following caveats. I eat the best quality
that I can find, and I also try to eat a reasonable quantity of it and
then don't keep too many leftovers around. I also try very hard to
recognize when I'm "satisfied" and not keep eating until I'm "full".

You have to recognize your triggers though. For me, candy starts a
binge. I just have to avoid that like the plague. If I stay away from
it completely, I'm fine. Low carb helps me to not miss it. But if it's
in a bowl in front of me, already unwrapped, then I am sunk.

Anyway, good luck to you Curt. I know exactly where you're coming from,
and really hope you can succeed.

Rebecca

Kill file him curt. You don't need to read his posts 'cause he always says
the same stupid things. He's like the rainman. He may be good at math but
that's about it.
--
Bear
Grrrrrrrr :o)
353/281.5/210

"curt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:kH5jd.9043

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Hahaha.

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"curt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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tribute to my mum who passed last year and lived in Buffalo for part of
her
childhood.

Do you have any life at all? Is there any way of posting on here when you
will not be the first to respond? I suggest you get a life and spend a
little less time on the computer. I feel sorry for you. I am certain you
are on meds, but you may want to suggest to your doctor, you need a higher
dose or maybe try something a little stronger. Possibly shock therapy and
multiple drugs would work for you.

I hope you get the help you need. Maybe that way, you will get a friend
and
not be so lonely.

Concerned for your well-being.
Curt

I'm also good at losing weight and at not whining about every little thing.

You should try practicing both of those.

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You take stupid to a new level. -- MFW

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Kill file him curt. You don't need to read his posts 'cause he always says
the same stupid things. He's like the rainman. He may be good at math but
that's about it.
--
Bear
Grrrrrrrr :o)
353/281.5/210

"curt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"JC Der Koenig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:kH5jd.9043

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Hahaha.

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"curt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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> tribute to my mum who passed last year and lived in Buffalo for part
> of
> her
> childhood.

Do you have any life at all? Is there any way of posting on here when
you
will not be the first to respond? I suggest you get a life and spend a
little less time on the computer. I feel sorry for you. I am certain
you
are on meds, but you may want to suggest to your doctor, you need a
higher
dose or maybe try something a little stronger. Possibly shock therapy
and
multiple drugs would work for you.

I hope you get the help you need. Maybe that way, you will get a friend
and
not be so lonely.

Concerned for your well-being.
Curt

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So I am back here with you good folks. Hope everyone is doing well. At
least I didn't get way out of control being that I am just 10 over.

Welcome back, Curt!

--
Saffire
205/147/125 - 5'1.5"
Atkins since 6/14/03
Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333