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  1. I've been on Induction for the past 10 days, and I didn't read my DANDR
    closely enough. I've been putting balsamic vinegar on my salad for the
    past 3-5 days, which I now know is a no-no. I assume that doesn't mean
    I have to restart Induction, right... just be`more strict with carbs
    over the next 2-3 days?

  2. Quoted message said:

    I've been on Induction for the past 10 days, and I didn't read my DANDR
    closely enough. I've been putting balsamic vinegar on my salad for the
    past 3-5 days, which I now know is a no-no. I assume that doesn't mean
    I have to restart Induction, right... just be`more strict with carbs
    over the next 2-3 days?

    No need to restart Induction. Simply toss the balsamic vinegar (I hate
    that *[censored]*) and watch your carb intake the next few days.

  3. It is in the nature of vinegar that one cannot drink cups of it. Quantity
    is as important as what one is eating. A generous sprinkling of vinegar
    might total 5 carbs. I wouldn't worry about it.

    Also, I started low carb by shooting for 50 carbs per day. A few months
    later I tightened things up to about 28 net carbs per day. My loss of carb
    cravings might have come faster, if I had followed Atkins' induction, but
    maybe not.

    I'm a bit concerned that it is implicit in your post that you are eagerly
    awaiting the opportunity to increase your carbs (and be done with
    induction). To be effective, low carb needs to be a new way of life. There
    are those that stay with induction-like levels.

    Cubit
    311/176.7/165

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    Quoted message said:

    I've been on Induction for the past 10 days, and I didn't read my DANDR
    closely enough. I've been putting balsamic vinegar on my salad for the
    past 3-5 days, which I now know is a no-no. I assume that doesn't mean
    I have to restart Induction, right... just be`more strict with carbs
    over the next 2-3 days?

  4. : I've been on Induction for the past 10 days, and I didn't read my DANDR
    : closely enough. I've been putting balsamic vinegar on my salad for the
    : past 3-5 days, which I now know is a no-no. I assume that doesn't mean
    : I have to restart Induction, right... just be`more strict with carbs
    : over the next 2-3 days?

    I think the most important facet of induction is the weaning of sugar use
    and dependency. So, you had too many carbs. So long as you are getting rid
    of the cravings for sugar and similar high glycemic foods (such as baked
    potatoes), you are making progress. You may think that after induction you
    can add back all the sugary foods you've missed, but, if you are typical,
    you won't want those sugary foods. And, indeed, they may taste strange to
    you!

    Pat in TX
    :

  5. Quoted message said:


    I've been on Induction for the past 10 days, and I didn't read my


    DANDR

    Quoted message said:

    closely enough. I've been putting balsamic vinegar on my salad for


    the

    Quoted message said:

    past 3-5 days, which I now know is a no-no. I assume that doesn't


    mean

    Quoted message said:

    I have to restart Induction, right... just be`more strict with carbs
    over the next 2-3 days?

    Exactly how strict do you want to be with yourself?

    It is easy to call Induction a bootcamp that needs to
    be done correctly and if you get something wrong the
    clock gets set back to zero. Do you want to be that
    strict with youself? If so then do that. It is a
    judgement call on just how big a mistake it takes to
    be required to set the clock back to zero. You're
    the only one that can really make that choice.

    To you is it an example of no-harm-no-foul? Or to
    you is it something you are really worried about?

    Some perspective: Lots of people need to be pressured
    to exit Induction and move on to OWL. Here you have
    formal permission to extend Induction several days and
    call it the right thing to do. You wanna take
    advantage or that permission or not? Your call
    entirely.

    Balsamic vinegar might be the only type that's high
    carb. That's the real stuff thats $20+ per bottle.
    How dilute is the stuff you used? Degree of dilution
    matters. Consider it this way: Sugar is forbidden
    during Induction yet there is a max of 3 packets of
    artificial sweetener. The problem is packets use a
    type of sugar as filler so that 3 packet limit can
    mean 3 grams of sugar yet sugar is forbidden. See
    how it becomes a judgement call? You are now in one
    of those judgement calls.

  6. Thanks for the thoughts.

    Regarding your concerns, I think you must mean that in OTHER posts, I
    was rather explicit about my desire to increase my carb intake. I
    definitely like salad and fruit, and frankly, I want to have that take
    up a larger share of my daily caloric intake, and soon. I hope to
    dabble in some whole-grain products down the line, in of course limited
    quantities.

    In terms of the negatives, my previous habits included candy (too
    much of it), chips, saltines, and lots of assorted processed
    flour-and-sugar containing items. That, I don't want to go back to. My
    daily candy habit in particular was disgusting.

    So yes, I want more carbs in my life. I dearly miss fruit. I also
    wanna drop some pounds. Beyond that, I think I've been pretty explicit
    in how I've been taking all this low-carb stuff.

    Cubit said:

    It is in the nature of vinegar that one cannot drink cups of it.


    Quantity

    Quoted message said:

    is as important as what one is eating. A generous sprinkling of


    vinegar

    Quoted message said:

    might total 5 carbs. I wouldn't worry about it.

    Also, I started low carb by shooting for 50 carbs per day. A few


    months

    Quoted message said:

    later I tightened things up to about 28 net carbs per day. My loss


    of carb

    Quoted message said:

    cravings might have come faster, if I had followed Atkins' induction,


    but

    Quoted message said:

    maybe not.

    I'm a bit concerned that it is implicit in your post that you are


    eagerly

    Quoted message said:

    awaiting the opportunity to increase your carbs (and be done with
    induction). To be effective, low carb needs to be a new way of life.


    There

    Quoted message said:

    are those that stay with induction-like levels.

    Cubit
    311/176.7/165

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I've been on Induction for the past 10 days, and I didn't read my


    DANDR

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    closely enough. I've been putting balsamic vinegar on my salad for


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    past 3-5 days, which I now know is a no-no. I assume that doesn't


    mean

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I have to restart Induction, right... just be`more strict with


    carbs

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    over the next 2-3 days?

  7. use lemon juice in place of balsamic vinegar!

    Quoted message said:


    I've been on Induction for the past 10 days, and I didn't read my DANDR
    closely enough. I've been putting balsamic vinegar on my salad for the
    past 3-5 days, which I now know is a no-no. I assume that doesn't mean
    I have to restart Induction, right... just be`more strict with carbs
    over the next 2-3 days?

  8. Quoted message said:

    I've been on Induction for the past 10 days, and I didn't read my DANDR
    closely enough. I've been putting balsamic vinegar on my salad for the
    past 3-5 days, which I now know is a no-no. I assume that doesn't mean
    I have to restart Induction, right... just be`more strict with carbs
    over the next 2-3 days?

    Sympathy... RFB

    But I have a different question.

    How does one pronounce [censored]?

    Could it be Fasterisk-ck?

    Fick?

    FÿűçĶ?

    FœĈķ?

    No, seriously...

    Pastorio

  9. Bob (this one) said:


    Quoted message said:

    I've been on Induction for the past 10 days, and I didn't read my DANDR
    closely enough. I've been putting balsamic vinegar on my salad for the
    past 3-5 days, which I now know is a no-no. I assume that doesn't mean
    I have to restart Induction, right... just be`more strict with carbs
    over the next 2-3 days?

    Sympathy... RFB

    But I have a different question.

    How does one pronounce [censored]?

    Could it be Fasterisk-ck?

    Fick?

    FÿűçĶ?

    FœĈķ?

    No, seriously...

    Pastorio

    LOL!!!

  10. Quoting Bob (this one):

    Quoted message said:

    But I have a different question.

    How does one pronounce [censored]?

    Could it be Fasterisk-ck?

    Fick?

    Fÿ?ç??

    Fœ???

    No, seriously...

    😉

    [and thank you]

  11. "Balsamic vinegar might be the only type that's high
    carb. That's the real stuff thats $20+ per bottle. "

    It doesn't have to be $20 real Balsamic vinegar to have significant
    carbs. Most any bottle Balsamic you pull of the shelf will have 3g or
    more of carbs per Tbsp. And rice wine used in Asian cooking has
    significant carbs too. But, as someone else pointed out, in many
    cases, you may not use enough to have it amount to much. For example,
    if you use it as part of a grilling marinade, a good portion of it
    isn't going to make it all the way to the food.

  12. That EFFING Balsamic vinegar. It will get you every time.

    Bob (this one) said:
    Quoted message said:

    I've been on Induction for the past 10 days, and I didn't read my DANDR
    closely enough. I've been putting balsamic vinegar on my salad for the
    past 3-5 days, which I now know is a no-no. I assume that doesn't mean
    I have to restart Induction, right... just be`more strict with carbs
    over the next 2-3 days?

    Sympathy... RFB

    But I have a different question.

    How does one pronounce [censored]?

    Could it be Fasterisk-ck?

    Fick?

    FÿűçĶ?

    FœĈķ?

    No, seriously...

    Pastorio

  13. bend over and I will show you!!!

    "Matt Flyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    That EFFING Balsamic vinegar. It will get you every time.

    Bob (this one) said:
    Quoted message said:

    I've been on Induction for the past 10 days, and I didn't read my DANDR
    closely enough. I've been putting balsamic vinegar on my salad for the
    past 3-5 days, which I now know is a no-no. I assume that doesn't mean
    I have to restart Induction, right... just be`more strict with carbs
    over the next 2-3 days?

    Sympathy... RFB

    But I have a different question.

    How does one pronounce [censored]?

    Could it be Fasterisk-ck?

    Fick?

    FÿuçK?

    FoCk?

    No, seriously...

    Pastorio

  14. My, such a display of intelligence. I would imagine that members of
    your family have even started walking upright by now.

    Home boy said:

    bend over and I will show you!!!

    "Matt Flyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    That EFFING Balsamic vinegar. It will get you every time.

    Bob (this one) said:

    [email hidden] wrote:

    >I've been on Induction for the past 10 days, and I didn't read my DANDR
    >closely enough. I've been putting balsamic vinegar on my salad for the
    >past 3-5 days, which I now know is a no-no. I assume that doesn't mean
    >I have to restart Induction, right... just be`more strict with carbs
    >over the next 2-3 days?

    Sympathy... RFB

    But I have a different question.

    How does one pronounce [censored]?

    Could it be Fasterisk-ck?

    Fick?

    FÿuçK?

    FoCk?

    No, seriously...

    Pastorio

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