Exploded diagrams Shimano components?

Mike Rocket J Squirrel said:

The damp coastal air here in SoCal does quite a number on non-stainless
fasteners. The hardware on my wife's road bike is pretty rusty and I want
to replace as much of the bits with stainless fasteners from such places
as loosescrews.com, etc. I reckon I could take her brakes and stuff apart
and make a shopping list, but I was wondering if there were exploded parts
diagrams or fastener lists of the various Shimano ders and brakes and
levers and things? Be a lot easier to order the parts ahead of time
instead of disassemble, measure, make list, assemble, order, wait,
disassemble, replace, assemble again.

--
Mike RJS

bike.shimano.comEV RD 5600 2452 v1 m56577569830609120.pdfOpen ↗

Many listing like the one above in bike.shimano techdocs exploded view for the particular component you want.

Mike Rocket J Squirrel said:

The damp coastal air here in SoCal does quite a number on non-stainless
fasteners. The hardware on my wife's road bike is pretty rusty and I want
to replace as much of the bits with stainless fasteners from such places
as loosescrews.com, etc. I reckon I could take her brakes and stuff apart
and make a shopping list, but I was wondering if there were exploded parts
diagrams or fastener lists of the various Shimano ders and brakes and
levers and things? Be a lot easier to order the parts ahead of time
instead of disassemble, measure, make list, assemble, order, wait,
disassemble, replace, assemble again.

--
Mike RJS

wire rotary brush in lectric drill then linseed oil or liquid rubber.
tried the linseed tool trick?
linseed, AKA flax seed grown by those poor Inidan dirt farmers?
according to David Johnson, polymerizes.
Take ur $2 walMart tools, place in superdupree plastic grobag, pour in
rational amount linseed to cover. Fumble tools around in bag with
linseed and/or squish around and into say box end wrenches ID. Tie bag
off and place in sun. Wait one week and open. Wallllooooahahahahah
polymerized Wal tools
rustproof natural plastic coating.

you prob is prob dew point condensation. Coastalwise, DPCon occurs
insdie the toolbox placed inside the car, and off course in the
vehicle's boxed frame memembers.
Linseed will stop salt deposits from DPCon, on ura sockets!!! and
fasteners.
check ura saltinoid on ura salter?

Mike Rocket J Squirrel said:

The damp coastal air here in SoCal does quite a number on non-stainless
fasteners. The hardware on my wife's road bike is pretty rusty and I want
to replace as much of the bits with stainless fasteners from such places
as loosescrews.com, etc. I reckon I could take her brakes and stuff apart
and make a shopping list, but I was wondering if there were exploded parts
diagrams or fastener lists of the various Shimano ders and brakes and
levers and things? Be a lot easier to order the parts ahead of time
instead of disassemble, measure, make list, assemble, order, wait,
disassemble, replace, assemble again.

--
Mike RJS

Better check the screw lengths. I was horrified to find my Cyber Nexus
groupset has several non-standard length screws in it. And of course
they're the ones that screw into blind holes... I wanted only to
replace four crossheads with hex socket heads, but i spent the entire
afternoon filing the bolts to length.

Andre Jute
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/BICYCLE%20%26%20CYCLING.html

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Quoted message said:

Better check the screw lengths. I was horrified to find my Cyber Nexus
groupset has several non-standard length screws in it. And of course
they're the ones that screw into blind holes... I wanted only to
replace four crossheads with hex socket heads, but i spent the entire
afternoon filing the bolts to length.

I would say angle grinder, but that's probably overkill - an abrasive disk
on a power drill does the job in no time. A common leftpondian answer is
"Dremel", but they're less popular over here.

That assumes you're only taking a bit off - more than a few mm and a hacksaw
is the correct tool. Leave a nut or two on to clamp to and tidy up the
threads afterwards.

Quoted message said:

"Andre Jute" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

Better check the screw lengths. I was horrified to find my Cyber Nexus
groupset has several non-standard length screws in it. And of course
they're the ones that screw into blind holes... I wanted only to
replace four crossheads with hex socket heads, but i spent the entire
afternoon filing the bolts to length.

Clive George said:

I would say angle grinder, but that's probably overkill - an abrasive
disk on a power drill does the job in no time. A common leftpondian
answer is "Dremel", but they're less popular over here.
That assumes you're only taking a bit off - more than a few mm and a
hacksaw is the correct tool. Leave a nut or two on to clamp to and tidy
up the threads afterwards.

Mechanics normally just add a washer of appropriate thickness under the
bolt head, for example on a rack mount to keep the end of the bolt out
of the chain.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On 3/6/2008 4:27 PM datakoll said:

Mike Rocket J Squirrel said:

The damp coastal air here in SoCal does quite a number on non-stainless
fasteners. The hardware on my wife's road bike is pretty rusty and I want
to replace as much of the bits with stainless fasteners from such places
as loosescrews.com, etc. I reckon I could take her brakes and stuff apart
and make a shopping list, but I was wondering if there were exploded parts
diagrams or fastener lists of the various Shimano ders and brakes and
levers and things? Be a lot easier to order the parts ahead of time
instead of disassemble, measure, make list, assemble, order, wait,
disassemble, replace, assemble again.

--
Mike RJS

wire rotary brush in lectric drill then linseed oil or liquid rubber.
tried the linseed tool trick?
linseed, AKA flax seed grown by those poor Inidan dirt farmers?
according to David Johnson, polymerizes.
Take ur $2 walMart tools, place in superdupree plastic grobag, pour in
rational amount linseed to cover. Fumble tools around in bag with
linseed and/or squish around and into say box end wrenches ID. Tie bag
off and place in sun. Wait one week and open. Wallllooooahahahahah
polymerized Wal tools
rustproof natural plastic coating.

you prob is prob dew point condensation. Coastalwise, DPCon occurs
insdie the toolbox placed inside the car, and off course in the
vehicle's boxed frame memembers.
Linseed will stop salt deposits from DPCon, on ura sockets!!! and
fasteners.
check ura saltinoid on ura salter?

Great tip re linseed oil, will try on new, unrusted parts. These hardware
bits have their chrome (or whatever it is) all rusted through already. The
plating is gone.

--
Mike RJS

On 3/6/2008 2:51 PM daveornee said:

Mike Rocket J Squirrel said:

The damp coastal air here in SoCal does quite a number on non-stainless
fasteners. The hardware on my wife's road bike is pretty rusty and I
want
to replace as much of the bits with stainless fasteners from such
places
as loosescrews.com, etc. I reckon I could take her brakes and stuff
apart
and make a shopping list, but I was wondering if there were exploded
parts
diagrams or fastener lists of the various Shimano ders and brakes and
levers and things? Be a lot easier to order the parts ahead of time
instead of disassemble, measure, make list, assemble, order, wait,
disassemble, replace, assemble again.

--
Mike RJS

http://bike.shimano.com/media/techdocs/content/cycle/EV/bikecomponents/RD/EV-RD-5600-2452_v1_m56577569830609120.pdf

Many listing like the one above in bike.shimano techdocs exploded view
for the particular component you want.

Perfect! Thanks.

--
Mike RJS

A Muzi said:

Quoted message said:

"Andre Jute" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

Better check the screw lengths. I was horrified to find my Cyber Nexus
groupset has several non-standard length screws in it. And of course
they're the ones that screw into blind holes... I wanted only to
replace four crossheads with hex socket heads, but i spent the entire
afternoon filing the bolts to length.

Clive George said:

I would say angle grinder, but that's probably overkill - an abrasive
disk on a power drill does the job in no time. A common leftpondian
answer is "Dremel", but they're less popular over here.
That assumes you're only taking a bit off - more than a few mm and a
hacksaw is the correct tool. Leave a nut or two on to clamp to and tidy
up the threads afterwards.

Thanks, Clive. I don't have a problem working out such simple
procedures -- I used to build one-off cars from scratch, and turned
several old Bentley into sports cars. But it takes me a while to
assemble all the tools from various places; I don't keep a tap and die
set in my bike toolbox, for instance.

Quoted message said:

Mechanics normally just add a washer of appropriate thickness under the
bolt head, for example on a rack mount to keep the end of the bolt out
of the chain.

Quoted message said:

--
Andrew Muziwww.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Sure, I add plain and spring washers routinely where there are none,
but in this case the plastic part was indented and the hole only big
enough to hold the socket head, no space for washers.

I really cannot understand how a firm like Shimano can order a special
length screw rather than redesign the plastic fitting to use a
standard length screw; in fact, I fail to understand how they so
misdesigned it in the first instance. I dropped one of the originals
and it was gone. That could be very irritating to some poor sod
without the tools or the time to shorten a locally available screw,
not to mention that sockethead screws are available only in a limited
range of sizes at a single hardware store in a fifty mile radius (he
got them in for me for something else). It isn't either as if the
wretched little brown plastic part will be aesthetically ruined by
being made half a millimetre thicker.

Andre Jute
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/BICYCLE%20%26%20CYCLING.html

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A Muzi said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

"Andre Jute" <[email hidden]> wrote
> Better check the screw lengths. I was horrified to find my Cyber Nexus
> groupset has several non-standard length screws in it. And of course
> they're the ones that screw into blind holes... I wanted only to
> replace four crossheads with hex socket heads, but i spent the entire
> afternoon filing the bolts to length.

Clive George said:

I would say angle grinder, but that's probably overkill - an abrasive
disk on a power drill does the job in no time. A common leftpondian
answer is "Dremel", but they're less popular over here.
That assumes you're only taking a bit off - more than a few mm and a
hacksaw is the correct tool. Leave a nut or two on to clamp to and tidy
up the threads afterwards.

Thanks, Clive. I don't have a problem working out such simple
procedures -- I used to build one-off cars from scratch, and turned
several old Bentley into sports cars. But it takes me a while to
assemble all the tools from various places; I don't keep a tap and die
set in my bike toolbox, for instance.

Who said anything about tap and die set? The nut cleans up the threads -
pretty standard practice IME.

I did wonder how you'd managed to take all afternoon over it - do you not
have your tools assembled in one place, commonly known as a workshop?
Certainly that's where my tools live, both bike and non-bike. And even with
my stunning disorganisation, I could take a few bolts down in a few minutes.

clive

Andre Jute said:

[...]
not to mention that sockethead screws are available only in a limited
range of sizes at a single hardware store in a fifty mile radius (he
got them in for me for something else).[...]

There is a whole isle devoted to threaded fasteners at my local Farm &
Fleet store, including every normal "English" and "Metric" size hex-head
bolts.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

On Mar 8, 7:50 am, Tom Sherman <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Andre Jute said:

[...]
not to mention that sockethead screws are available only in a limited
range of sizes at a single hardware store in a fifty mile radius (he
got them in for me for something else).[...]

There is a whole isle devoted to threaded fasteners at my local Farm &
Fleet store, including every normal "English" and "Metric" size hex-head
bolts.

Lucky you. I can get overnight delivery from RS in Dublin.

Andre Jute
A phone is also an engineering tool

Quoted message said:

Andre Jute said:

[...]
not to mention that sockethead screws are available only in a limited
range of sizes at a single hardware store in a fifty mile radius (he
got them in for me for something else).[...]

Tom Sherman said:

There is a whole isle devoted to threaded fasteners at my local Farm &
Fleet store, including every normal "English" and "Metric" size hex-head
bolts.

Unless your Farm+Fleet is flooded, that was an aisle.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

A Muzi said:

Quoted message said:

Andre Jute said:

[...]
not to mention that sockethead screws are available only in a limited
range of sizes at a single hardware store in a fifty mile radius (he
got them in for me for something else).[...]

Tom Sherman said:

There is a whole isle devoted to threaded fasteners at my local Farm &
Fleet store, including every normal "English" and "Metric" size hex-head
bolts.

Unless your Farm+Fleet is flooded, that was an aisle.

Now, now, boys, no fighting between the pews. If the choirboys cannot
manage to be angelic, they should at least be good.

Andre Jute
Dean
St Edward Dolan the Doleful
Upper Chipping Sodbury

Andre Jute said:

[...]
Andre Jute
Dean
St Edward Dolan the Doleful
Upper Chipping Sodbury

Interesting signature line.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful