Excess water -loosing weight

[email hidden] wrote in message

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that you have to loose a certain amount of water weight (if you

retain

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it) before you can actually loose fat...

Cheri Redding

If you're going to spam newsgroups, at least learn the difference
between *loose* and *lose.*

Cheri, no relation to the above. :-)

Spammer said:

Everyone's body is different, but I wanted to express, or provide my
quick weight loss success. It is very difficult to loose weight and
my body is always going up and down...but I noticed, years ago,
probably about 5 -6 years, that when I lost water weight - I retain a
lot of water, I would be able to loose weight a lot easier. If I
retained water and didn't loose it, I wouldn't loose any weight, no
matter how hard I tried ...

Good news - Low carbers tend to drop retained water. This is
especially true of low carbers who use ketosis. And without
special supplements.

Doug Freyburger said:

Spammer said:

Everyone's body is different, but I wanted to express, or provide my
quick weight loss success. It is very difficult to loose weight and
my body is always going up and down...but I noticed, years ago,
probably about 5 -6 years, that when I lost water weight - I retain a
lot of water, I would be able to loose weight a lot easier. If I
retained water and didn't loose it, I wouldn't loose any weight, no
matter how hard I tried ...

Good news - Low carbers tend to drop retained water. This is
especially true of low carbers who use ketosis. And without
special supplements.

__________________________________________________________________

I used Atkins...it made me ill - my closest friend and her mother
used Atkins - lost a lot of weight - gained it back. My tip is
inexpensive -
focusing on water retention may be something to test and to focus on
(at one's choice)
using before, during and after any diet.

But again, everyone is different. What worked
for me to lose my weight, was to focus on my water weight. Over-the
counter
diuretics worked for me 10+ years ago, but they don't now. I tried
Jenny Craig, Atkins,
many other things...I happened to come
accross a supplement because I had vericose vein issues that released
a lot of water
so I'm passing this along...

I have struggled through losing a lot of weight many times and skin
issues, I know what worked-s
for me and I hope someone else benefits by it. I have a 22 month
old. I lost 70+ pounds in a year
focusing on water retention - if I retained, I wouldn't lose any
weight, no matter how much I exercized.

My employment is a benefit...I don't have to sell anything and it's
really hard to be a sales person
you get a lot of criticism, but I adore these products, have made a
lot of friends, and I'm passing along
a good tip...whether or not you or anyone else purchases these
products is insignificant - but I do offer as a basis for
their own research. What matters is that I have weight/skin issues,
found something that works for me and, others, if not
aware, - now have an additional tip to research and compare on their
own.

If you're interested in my tip, I hope you benefit by it as I have!
Best Regards,
Cheri Redding

"Cheri" <[email hidden]> wrote

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I used Atkins...it made me ill - my closest friend and her mother
used Atkins - lost a lot of weight - gained it back.

Ah, ok, more of Cheri's diet advice. Thanks for passing that along. Really.
Very insightful. Can I like, send you a check for that?

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em said:

"Cheri" <[email hidden]> wrote

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I used Atkins...it made me ill - my closest friend and her mother
used Atkins - lost a lot of weight - gained it back.

Ah, ok, more of Cheri's diet advice. Thanks for passing that along.
Really. Very insightful. Can I like, send you a check for that?

Unlike all those other diets, where if you go off them, you stay thin...

Sheesh.

Susan

em said:

"Cheri" <[email hidden]> wrote

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I used Atkins...it made me ill - my closest friend and her mother
used Atkins - lost a lot of weight - gained it back.

Ah, ok, more of Cheri's diet advice. Thanks for passing that along. Really.
Very insightful. Can I like, send you a check for that?

____________________________
To em...

If you're upset about something, please don't take it out on me.
I've done nothing wrong and have offered what works for me...
support group....not bash group!

so if you need to lose weight, then see if it works for you, if you
choose
not to, then don't! But don't bash on people who offer their
successful information.

(Actually, this is getting kind of interesting)

If you want surgery for something, come to me, I may not know anything
about it, but you still can pay me - not sure if you'll live though,
or, maybe you
want to listen objectively to someone who actually experienced success
in
the 'something' surgury that you need - or, has experience in it...a
doctor maybe...

Cheri Redding

Susan said:

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em said:

"Cheri" <[email hidden]> wrote

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I used Atkins...it made me ill - my closest friend and her mother
used Atkins - lost a lot of weight - gained it back.

Quoted message said:

Ah, ok, more of Cheri's diet advice. Thanks for passing that along.
Really. Very insightful. Can I like, send you a check for that?

Unlike all those other diets, where if you go off them, you stay thin...

Sheesh.

Susan

Susan,

My suggestion is not a diet, my suggestion, that has worked for me, is
to focus
on water retention - before, during and after any diet. I cannot lose
weight on any diet
if I am retaining water...i tried Atkins, it did make me sick, as
mentioned in another note,
I did Jenny Craig and others, but what worked for me, was focusing on
water retention - with whatever
diet I tried. I wish Atkins didn't make me ill feeling...love steak!
Focusing on water and then walking really
helped me.

Take Care,
Cheri Redding

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Cheri said:

My suggestion is not a diet, my suggestion, that has worked for me, is
to focus
on water retention - before, during and after any diet. I cannot lose
weight on any diet
if I am retaining water...i tried Atkins, it did make me sick, as
mentioned in another note,
I did Jenny Craig and others, but what worked for me, was focusing on
water retention - with whatever
diet I tried. I wish Atkins didn't make me ill feeling...love steak!
Focusing on water and then walking really
helped me.

WhatEVER.

Susan

"Cheri" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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em said:

"Cheri" <[email hidden]> wrote

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I used Atkins...it made me ill - my closest friend and her mother
used Atkins - lost a lot of weight - gained it back.

Ah, ok, more of Cheri's diet advice. Thanks for passing that along.
Really.
Very insightful. Can I like, send you a check for that?

____________________________
To em...

If you're upset about something, please don't take it out on me.
I've done nothing wrong and have offered what works for me...
support group....not bash group!

so if you need to lose weight, then see if it works for you, if you
choose
not to, then don't! But don't bash on people who offer their
successful information.

That's just it. You have nothing to offer. You took a pill for one thing and
at the same time you lost weight. So what? What if you switched gas stations
(for your car) and lost weight? Same [censored], different day.

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(Actually, this is getting kind of interesting)

If you want surgery for something, come to me, I may not know anything
about it, but you still can pay me - not sure if you'll live though,
or, maybe you
want to listen objectively to someone who actually experienced success
in
the 'something' surgury that you need - or, has experience in it...a
doctor maybe...

There we go, Cheri. You hit the nail on the head. If somebody wants
medication or suppliments or surgery, the should go to somebody qualified.
You have absolotely ZERO qualifications, and NO experience other then your
party of one. Are you a dietician? Are you a nutritionist? Have you even
read any decent diet books that were written by a doctor or a nutritionist?
No, No, and probably not! And on top of all that, you don't know how to
market and sell your product, because all you're doing here is giving people
a reason to not like or trust you.

Nobody seems to have anything positive to say about you or this pill of
yours that you're selling. Heaven forbid somebody should take this [censored] and
get sick. That would be on YOUR shoulders, by the way.

You have NO idea what is in your pills, NO idea whether or not there are any
side effects. NO idea whether people with certain medical conditions should
avoid this snake oil of yours. [censored], lady, you kant even spel.

You know, Cheri, this is not getting interesting. It is just getting to be a
bigger pile of [censored].

Cheri said:

i tried Atkins, it did make me sick ...

Here's the deal -

Over the years a lot of people have come by claiming that
they tried Atkins and bad stuff happened. When asked
what they were actually eating, without exception it turned
out what they were eating didn't jive with the instructions
in the book. They didn't know what Atkins really is and
weren't on Atkins.

Because of this history I ask you what you were eating
while you claimed to be on Atkins. And also how long
you ate it and what you'd been eating before you started.

As to water weight effecting lose of stored fat, water is
not fat so effort put into dropping water is effort not put into
dropping stored fat. And since low carbing automatically
comes with dropping water without medication ...

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As to water weight effecting lose of stored fat, water is
not fat so effort put into dropping water is effort not put into
dropping stored fat. And since low carbing automatically
comes with dropping water without medication ...

Here's what I think: the media uses the terms "melt the fat" so much that
people start to believe their stored body fat can actually be melted! She is
confusing water loss with fat just magically melting away.

Pat in TX

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em said:

"Cheri" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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em said:

"Cheri" <[email hidden]> wrote

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> I used Atkins...it made me ill - my closest friend and her mother
> used Atkins - lost a lot of weight - gained it back.

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Ah, ok, more of Cheri's diet advice. Thanks for passing that along.
Really.
Very insightful. Can I like, send you a check for that?

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____________________________
To em...

Quoted message said:

If you're upset about something, please don't take it out on me.
I've done nothing wrong and have offered what works for me...
support group....not bash group!

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so if you need to lose weight, then see if it works for you, if you
choose
not to, then don't! But don't bash on people who offer their
successful information.

That's just it. You have nothing to offer. You took a pill for one thing and
at the same time you lost weight. So what? What if you switched gas stations
(for your car) and lost weight? Same [censored], different day.

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(Actually, this is getting kind of interesting)

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If you want surgery for something, come to me, I may not know anything
about it, but you still can pay me - not sure if you'll live though,
or, maybe you
want to listen objectively to someone who actually experienced success
in
the 'something' surgury that you need - or, has experience in it...a
doctor maybe...

There we go, Cheri. You hit the nail on the head. If somebody wants
medication or suppliments or surgery, the should go to somebody qualified.
You have absolotely ZERO qualifications, and NO experience other then your
party of one. Are you a dietician? Are you a nutritionist? Have you even
read any decent diet books that were written by a doctor or a nutritionist?
No, No, and probably not! And on top of all that, you don't know how to
market and sell your product, because all you're doing here is giving people
a reason to not like or trust you.

Nobody seems to have anything positive to say about you or this pill of
yours that you're selling. Heaven forbid somebody should take this [censored] and
get sick. That would be on YOUR shoulders, by the way.

You have NO idea what is in your pills, NO idea whether or not there are any
side effects. NO idea whether people with certain medical conditions should
avoid this snake oil of yours. [censored], lady, you kant even spel.

You know, Cheri, this is not getting interesting. It is just getting to be a
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I made my comments and for some reason you just want to bash me...
I haven't bashed anyone..if you have insight, please offer, but leave
me along
and please stop bashing on me.

I have noticed that I cannot lose weight when I retain water.
When I flush water out, I can...(I noticed that my water retention was
easily flushed with
an ALL NATURAL SUPPLEMENT - so as a participant, with the same issues,
i thought I'd let others know about what worked for me - maybe they
would like to research it to see
if it may help - research being the keyword. So, I'm not a doctor,
not a nurse, I'm someone who has
come accross something that worked for me.................
There are many products out there, and anyone can has the right to
shop for what
they want to shop for - what's right for them and their bodies...

BUT get this straight...I never mentioned MEDICATION...so please drop
it, because you're going
too far with this and I'm feeling like I'm being harassed!
I was never mean to you...please go back to the beginning and see who
started bashing...This is my last conversation with you.
I wish you all the best...em
Cheri

Doug Freyburger said:

Cheri said:

i tried Atkins, it did make me sick ...

Here's the deal -

Over the years a lot of people have come by claiming that
they tried Atkins and bad stuff happened. When asked
what they were actually eating, without exception it turned
out what they were eating didn't jive with the instructions
in the book. They didn't know what Atkins really is and
weren't on Atkins.

Because of this history I ask you what you were eating
while you claimed to be on Atkins. And also how long
you ate it and what you'd been eating before you started.

As to water weight effecting lose of stored fat, water is
not fat so effort put into dropping water is effort not put into
dropping stored fat. And since low carbing automatically
comes with dropping water without medication ...

Doug,
You could be right. I tried it three time, but I thought that the
book
was kind of confusing, too much too read - like most diet books
- could have been just me. I do know that I
wasn't has hungry, excess water did come off, (so this
is true to say, it is a successful diet regarding the decrease in
hunger and water retention)
but I'm thinking that the meat
didn't sit well in my stomach (I'm not a big fish person) - I believe
it takes a long time to digest.
I believe that sometime when 'things - about anything'; can be too
much too read - like a book -
then I may really miss the appropriate way of following the
instructions - at least with me.
I found myself skipping around the book, trying to understand - I
cannot honestly say
that I grasped it all.
I guess I need a 'cheat sheet' - If I had a diet that told me what to
do and what to eat on the first two pages - for the first 2 weeks,
then once I lose some weight,
I would probably be interested in reading the rest of it.
then I'll probably understand the mix/amounts of carb/meat.

If there is a 'cheat sheet' of the diet offered, maybe I'll try it
again....and possibly
be able to incorporate the meals, diet into my life so that I'm not
hungry, water retention will
remain low, and I don't think that I thought of food that often....
I do believe Dr. Atkins was on the right track....
Thanks,
Cheri

Pat said:

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As to water weight effecting lose of stored fat, water is
not fat so effort put into dropping water is effort not put into
dropping stored fat. And since low carbing automatically
comes with dropping water without medication ...

Here's what I think: the media uses the terms "melt the fat" so much that
people start to believe their stored body fat can actually be melted! She is
confusing water loss with fat just magically melting away.

Pat in TX

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Pat,
I'll clarify...I'm not suggesting medicine for fat melting away, I'm
only saying to focus on water retention and I offered
a natural supplement that took water off of me the same day I took
it... I'm not suggesting take it, I'm
just offering what was succesful for me to take water off.

I don't mean fat melting away, what I mean is that I can't lose
weight, any type of weight, fat,
water, if I retain water. If I am not retaining excess water - over a
normal amount for my body- I don't
know what's normal for everyone, but I can tell when I see my fingers
are swelled, then I noticed
that it is easier for me to lose weight. This has been sucessful for
me...I've lost weight many times.
Unfortunately, I haven't figured out how to stop the excess
eating...so at least, I can - have
the ability to lose weight, if I need to if I follow some diet- by
focusing on how bloated I
am with water. That pretty much the gist of it.
Thanks,
Cheri R

Doug Freyburger said:

Cheri said:

i tried Atkins, it did make me sick ...

Here's the deal -

Over the years a lot of people have come by claiming that
they tried Atkins and bad stuff happened. When asked
what they were actually eating, without exception it turned
out what they were eating didn't jive with the instructions
in the book. They didn't know what Atkins really is and
weren't on Atkins.

Because of this history I ask you what you were eating
while you claimed to be on Atkins. And also how long
you ate it and what you'd been eating before you started.

As to water weight effecting lose of stored fat, water is
not fat so effort put into dropping water is effort not put into
dropping stored fat. And since low carbing automatically
comes with dropping water without medication ...

Doug, I just wanted to add, I'm not suggesting medication,
but something that helped me to release excess water retention.
It's always been an issue with me... I do worry about it because
if you see what my fathers legs look like, you would worry too.
Probably genetic - his calfs are huge with water retention. This is
why I focus on water retention and find an easy, healthy way of
flushing it out.
Cheri R.

Cheri said:

Doug Freyburger said:

Cheri <[email hidden]> wrote:

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i tried Atkins, it did make me sick ...

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Here's the deal -

Quoted message said:

Over the years a lot of people have come by claiming that
they tried Atkins and bad stuff happened. When asked
what they were actually eating, without exception it turned
out what they were eating didn't jive with the instructions
in the book. They didn't know what Atkins really is and
weren't on Atkins.

... I tried it three time, but I thought that the book
was kind of confusing

That's certainly true. As a professional writer, Dr A was,
sigh, a good clinical doctor who didn't have the sense to
employee a ghost writer until the 2006 edition of the book.

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too much too read

There's no way around that part. It's a book.

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but I'm thinking that the meat
didn't sit well in my stomach (I'm not a big fish person) - I believe
it takes a long time to digest.

That's why I asked what you had been eating before you
started as well as what you ate while you thought you
were trying the plan - The body adjusts to digesting its
standard food. Digestion adjusts but if you went from a
vegetarian or very low fat diet there was a lot of adjustment
to be done and that's a few extra weeks.

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I found myself skipping around the book, trying to understand

What I translate this statement as - Trying to find that what
you are doing is the right way to do it. Skipping around the
book is the best way to fail to understand. Standard method
for reading comprehension in a non-fiction book - Use the
table of contents to find out what is most important in the
book.

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If there is a 'cheat sheet' of the diet offered, maybe I'll try it
again...

http://www.atkins.com/articles/atkins-phases/phase-one

Caution - You asked for a set of menus. Atkins is a *process*
not a menu. It can only be reduced to menus that work for
everyone for the first 14 days. After that boot camp it is a
process that uses how your body reacts to determine the
optimal food for your body. If all you want is a cheat sheet,
you're better off trying a simple plan not the Atkins Nutritional
Approach.

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Doug, I just wanted to add, I'm not suggesting medication,
but something that helped me to release excess water retention.
It's always been an issue with me... I do worry about it because
if you see what my fathers legs look like, you would worry too.
Probably genetic - his calfs are huge with water retention. This is
why I focus on water retention and find an easy, healthy way of
flushing it out.
Cheri R.

Have you or your father ever been to a doctor and talked about excess water
retention?

Pat in TX

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Nobody seems to have anything positive to say about you or this pill of
yours that you're selling. Heaven forbid somebody should take this [censored]
and
get sick. That would be on YOUR shoulders, by the way.

You have NO idea what is in your pills, NO idea whether or not there are
any
side effects. NO idea whether people with certain medical conditions
should
avoid this snake oil of yours. [censored], lady, you kant even spel.

You know, Cheri, this is not getting interesting. It is just getting to
be a
bigger pile of [censored].- Hide quoted text -

I made my comments and for some reason you just want to bash me...
I haven't bashed anyone..if you have insight, please offer, but leave
me along
and please stop bashing on me.

Listen, lady, I can't seem to bash you hard enough. You simply don't go
away. If you would educate yourself, rather than tote your magic water
pills, you'd understand why.

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I have noticed that I cannot lose weight when I retain water.
When I flush water out, I can...(I noticed that my water retention was
easily flushed with
an ALL NATURAL SUPPLEMENT - so as a participant, with the same issues,
i thought I'd let others know about what worked for me - maybe they
would like to research it to see

OK, you're saying that your magic beans are "all natural". What in this
world is not "all natural"? When does something become "not all natural"?

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I'm not a doctor,
not a nurse, I'm someone who has
come accross something that worked for me.................

Wrong again. You're not a doctor or a nurse, true, but your magic beans
don't work. Not for you, even if you think they do, and not for anybody
else.

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There are many products out there,

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BUT get this straight...I never mentioned MEDICATION...so please drop
it, because you're going
too far with this and I'm feeling like I'm being harassed!

You ARE being harassed. That is my intent. You are a spammer and nobody
loves you. Just like that Valdamart guy.