Evolved names

On Tue 18 Oct 2005 08:30:40a, alsandor wrote in rec.food.cooking:

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Dimitri a écrit :

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Top with grated Velveeta cheese

I don't know how one would go about grating Velveeta. Do you let it
dry out first?

Very cold on the large hole shredding side of a box grater.

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Dimitri said:

We are creating a generation of misinformed idiots;

Scampi = a creamy garlic sauce as in Chicken scampi
Alfredo = a creamy sauce with cheese (probably Kraft packed in
cardboard)
BBQ = Anything cooked on a grill
BBQ Ribs = Ribs baked in the oven in BBQ sauce.
Pot Roast = Any meat steamed in its own juices in a crock pot.
Pot Roast Supreme = see above only sprinkle dry onion soup on top.
Marinara = Any meatless tomato concoction form a stupidmarket in a jar.
Home Made = Something frozen and either boiled or nuked for dinner.
Stroganoff = Sour Cream and anything as in Pigs feet stroganoff. or better
yet Hamburger Helper
Veronique = Anything made by Veronica
Sushi = Raw fish
Sunny Side Up = Steamed or Basted

What else?

Bruschetta (in a jar) LOL

The Ranger said:

Anything product produced by Stofers would easily qualify. (It doesn't
even have to be edible.)

The Ranger

I work long, strange hours. When I come home in the morning sometimes my
favorite breakfast is a Stouffers mac and cheese. Simple comfort food.
They do that right, considering.
Goomba

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The Ranger said:

Anything product produced by Stofers would easily qualify.
(It doesn't even have to be edible.)

I work long, strange hours. When I come home in the morning
sometimes my favorite breakfast is a Stouffers mac and cheese.
Simple comfort food. They do that right, considering.

Is that the single-helping or the family-size? (I ask in all seriousness
because I've not purchased a single-helping "TV dinner" in years. It's
been the "family-sized" frozen entrées from Smart-and-Final for the last
several...)

BTW: Michael Angelo products are pretty good! Had the eggplant parmesan
last night and even SWMBO didn't comment about my trying to poison her
with eggplant!

The Ranger

The Ranger said:

Quoted message said:

I work long, strange hours. When I come home in the morning
sometimes my favorite breakfast is a Stouffers mac and cheese.
Simple comfort food. They do that right, considering.

Is that the single-helping or the family-size? (I ask in all seriousness
because I've not purchased a single-helping "TV dinner" in years. It's
been the "family-sized" frozen entrées from Smart-and-Final for the last
several...)

Single serving size. Just enough to fill me up before I head on to bed.
Goomba

Charles Gifford said:

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Dimitri said:

We are creating a generation of misinformed idiots;

No, we are living in an age where food snobs are attempting to define
each and every term with a single meaning - even if it does not have
such in it's native enviroment.

Can you enlighten us with some examples?

BBQ.

D.
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Oct 5th, 2004 JDL

Edwin Pawlowski said:

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Dimitri said:

We are creating a generation of misinformed idiots;

No, we are living in an age where food snobs are attempting to define
each and every term with a single meaning - even if it does not have
such in it's native enviroment.

D.

Well durruk (you don't mind me calling you durruck do you? Derek would just
seen so snobby) here is my take on the situation.

Yes, I do mind. I mind greatly that you handwave and insult rather
than discussing the issue.

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It is because most of those terms do have a single meaning. This morning I
drove through some deep water across the road. But my car is still a car,
not a boat.

So what? Nobody called your car a boat. But 'pot roast' covers a
wide range of braised beef dishes in the same general family for
eample. There is no 'standard' pot roast recipe. There is no such
thing as a standard 'minestrone' recipe. (There are certain general
similarities of course arising from the cuisine.) There is no such
thing as a single style of BBQ - what a Texan calls BBQ is considered
dog food in the Piedmont, and vice versa. 'Alfredo' is a sauce, not a
dish, etc... etc...

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The problem is that many people are too damned lazy to re-name a product and
want to hop aboard the popularity of an existing product no matter how much
they vary it. These are often the same whacko's that perpetrate political
correctness in speech, We can (and should) now call a rose by any other
name. A dead rose is now color impaired.

Certaintly. But the opposite effect (that I alluded to originally)
also occurs, misinformed people applying a general term to a specific
dish or preparation. (See the discussion on 'pesto' elsethread for
example, or BBQ.)

There's also the effect that food is a living thing - it grows and
evolves over time. It's not static.

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Nope, not food snobs, but people that actually learn and use the proper
names for different dishes. But we do appreciate your thoughts, Mr. Lions.

You don't think, you just insult and handwave.

D.
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Touch-twice life. Eat. Drink. Laugh.

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Oct 5th, 2004 JDL

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We are creating a generation of misinformed idiots;

Scampi = a creamy garlic sauce as in Chicken scampi
Alfredo = a creamy sauce with cheese (probably Kraft packed
in
cardboard)
BBQ = Anything cooked on a grill
BBQ Ribs = Ribs baked in the oven in BBQ sauce.
Pot Roast = Any meat steamed in its own juices in a crock pot.
Pot Roast Supreme = see above only sprinkle dry onion soup on top.
Marinara = Any meatless tomato concoction form a stupidmarket
in a jar.
Home Made = Something frozen and either boiled or nuked for dinner.
Stroganoff = Sour Cream and anything as in Pigs feet stroganoff.
or better
yet Hamburger Helper
Veronique = Anything made by Veronica
Sushi = Raw fish
Sunny Side Up = Steamed or Basted

What else?

Dimitri

Dimitri,
How about the word"chef" you can go on a lot about what a chef is,
or has become.
Rosie

rosie said:

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We are creating a generation of misinformed idiots;

Scampi = a creamy garlic sauce as in Chicken scampi
Alfredo = a creamy sauce with cheese (probably Kraft packed
in
cardboard)
BBQ = Anything cooked on a grill
BBQ Ribs = Ribs baked in the oven in BBQ sauce.
Pot Roast = Any meat steamed in its own juices in a crock pot.
Pot Roast Supreme = see above only sprinkle dry onion soup on top.
Marinara = Any meatless tomato concoction form a stupidmarket
in a jar.
Home Made = Something frozen and either boiled or nuked for dinner.
Stroganoff = Sour Cream and anything as in Pigs feet stroganoff.
or better
yet Hamburger Helper
Veronique = Anything made by Veronica
Sushi = Raw fish
Sunny Side Up = Steamed or Basted

What else?

Dimitri

Dimitri,
How about the word"chef" you can go on a lot about what a chef is,
or has become.
Rosie

Chili (which might or might not be the same as curry)

modom

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Charles Gifford said:

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"Dimitri" <[email hidden]> wrote:

>We are creating a generation of misinformed idiots;

No, we are living in an age where food snobs are attempting to define
each and every term with a single meaning - even if it does not have
such in it's native enviroment.

Can you enlighten us with some examples?

BBQ.

D.

That certainly does not have anything to do with Dimitri's post.

Charlie

Peter Aitken said:

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well, doesn't pesto literally mean anything (food) ground into a paste
with a pestle?

Perhaps, but that's irrelevant. In the culinary world it means a paste made
from basil, cheese, etc.

AFIK, Pesto Genovese is from the only pesto in Italian traditions. For
example, Mario Batali in _Simple_Italian_Food_ has:

Green Olive Pesto which includes green olives, a red onion, pine nuts,
garlic, and EVOO.

Hazelnut Pesto, used with goat cheese on penne includes basil, garlic,
red-pepper flakes, hazelnuts, EVOO.

Dried Tomato pesto, using rehydrated sun-dried tomatoes, balsamic
vinegar, capers, EVOO.

He also describes the more usual one, with a combination of
parmigiano-reggiano and pecorino cheeses.

Rodney Myrvaagnes J 36 Gjo/a

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