Evil, nasty, hateful thoughts

Be calm. I get them to. I think it is because you want to make sure you
don't regain your weight. At least that is what I think. I really never
paid attention to it much until the past year. I just want to hate being
over weight I think. I don't have hate for fat people, but it is a way of
telling myself I don't want to be a fat cow ever again.

Curt

"Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I never, never, NEVER imagined that after losing 50 pounds I would start
having these negative thoughts about overweight people. I myself am still
overweight, so I have absolutely no justification for judging others.

Yet, in certain situations lately, I have been having these really nasty
thoughts. When I was at jury duty, in the assembly room, this very large
woman was trying to get to her seat in the row behind me, and she smacked
me in the back of the head with her bosom. It hurt, painfully wrenching

my

Quoted message said:

neck. She apologized, and I smiled and said "It's ok" but inside I was
thinking "Fat cow!!" I was immediately ashamed for thinking that.

Every time I go grocery shopping or to a mall, and I do mean _every_ time,
I am walking trying to get where I'm going and big people are in front of
me, going painfully slowly. And there is no room to get around them.
Sometimes, in the mall or department stores, there is room for them to

walk

Quoted message said:

two abreast, and I have fantasies of shoving a big stick in between them
and prying them apart so I can get by.

When I was at my heaviest, I never really noticed other overweight people,
unless they were extremely obese. Now I think I may be transferring my

own

Quoted message said:

insecurities and frustrations onto other people, seeing in them what I
don't like about myself. I don't know these people, I don't ever roll my
eyes or sigh or say anything rude, they most likely have no idea of the
inner vitriol in my head, but I am hurting myself by it. I don't like

being

Quoted message said:

angry and frustrated. I feel like these thoughts are poison.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

Or.....I hope this isn't the case..., Maybe I want to not care about my
weight anymore and just eat what I want, so I take it out on the fat people
because I am jealous that they don't care and eat what they want.

Hmmm, I like my first thought better.

Curt

"Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I never, never, NEVER imagined that after losing 50 pounds I would start
having these negative thoughts about overweight people. I myself am still
overweight, so I have absolutely no justification for judging others.

Yet, in certain situations lately, I have been having these really nasty
thoughts. When I was at jury duty, in the assembly room, this very large
woman was trying to get to her seat in the row behind me, and she smacked
me in the back of the head with her bosom. It hurt, painfully wrenching

my

Quoted message said:

neck. She apologized, and I smiled and said "It's ok" but inside I was
thinking "Fat cow!!" I was immediately ashamed for thinking that.

Every time I go grocery shopping or to a mall, and I do mean _every_ time,
I am walking trying to get where I'm going and big people are in front of
me, going painfully slowly. And there is no room to get around them.
Sometimes, in the mall or department stores, there is room for them to

walk

Quoted message said:

two abreast, and I have fantasies of shoving a big stick in between them
and prying them apart so I can get by.

When I was at my heaviest, I never really noticed other overweight people,
unless they were extremely obese. Now I think I may be transferring my

own

Quoted message said:

insecurities and frustrations onto other people, seeing in them what I
don't like about myself. I don't know these people, I don't ever roll my
eyes or sigh or say anything rude, they most likely have no idea of the
inner vitriol in my head, but I am hurting myself by it. I don't like

being

Quoted message said:

angry and frustrated. I feel like these thoughts are poison.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

Luna said:

I never, never, NEVER imagined that after losing 50 pounds I would start
having these negative thoughts about overweight people. I myself am still
overweight, so I have absolutely no justification for judging others.

Yet, in certain situations lately, I have been having these really nasty
thoughts. When I was at jury duty, in the assembly room, this very large
woman was trying to get to her seat in the row behind me, and she smacked
me in the back of the head with her bosom. It hurt, painfully wrenching my
neck. She apologized, and I smiled and said "It's ok" but inside I was
thinking "Fat cow!!" I was immediately ashamed for thinking that.

Every time I go grocery shopping or to a mall, and I do mean _every_ time,
I am walking trying to get where I'm going and big people are in front of
me, going painfully slowly. And there is no room to get around them.
Sometimes, in the mall or department stores, there is room for them to walk
two abreast, and I have fantasies of shoving a big stick in between them
and prying them apart so I can get by.

When I was at my heaviest, I never really noticed other overweight people,
unless they were extremely obese. Now I think I may be transferring my own
insecurities and frustrations onto other people, seeing in them what I
don't like about myself. I don't know these people, I don't ever roll my
eyes or sigh or say anything rude, they most likely have no idea of the
inner vitriol in my head, but I am hurting myself by it. I don't like being
angry and frustrated. I feel like these thoughts are poison.

Don't worry. You are not alone. I think that all of us that are
losing weight look down on fat people. It's a normal reaction. BUT
if you think mean thoughts such as why doesn't that fat pig just lose
weight it's taking it too far. Put yourself in their position.
Remember how it was when you were fat. How people made fun of you and
stared. Fat people have feelings.

Gary Nichols

6'4" tall with big frame.

280 pounds 1 year ago
207 pounds now.
185 pounds goal weight.

curt said:

Or.....I hope this isn't the case..., Maybe I want to not care about
my weight anymore and just eat what I want, so I take it out on the
fat people because I am jealous that they don't care and eat what
they want.

Hmmm, I like my first thought better.

I am impressed that you are willing to look this closely at your self, at
your feelings behind your thoughts -- I am not sure what your motivation is
for thinking those things, but I am impressed with your honesty and your
willingness to explore WHY you might think this way.

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Curt

"Luna" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I never, never, NEVER imagined that after losing 50 pounds I would
start having these negative thoughts about overweight people. I
myself am still overweight, so I have absolutely no justification
for judging others.

Yet, in certain situations lately, I have been having these really
nasty thoughts. When I was at jury duty, in the assembly room, this
very large woman was trying to get to her seat in the row behind me,
and she smacked me in the back of the head with her bosom. It hurt,
painfully wrenching my neck. She apologized, and I smiled and said
"It's ok" but inside I was thinking "Fat cow!!" I was immediately
ashamed for thinking that.

Every time I go grocery shopping or to a mall, and I do mean _every_
time, I am walking trying to get where I'm going and big people are
in front of me, going painfully slowly. And there is no room to get
around them. Sometimes, in the mall or department stores, there is
room for them to walk two abreast, and I have fantasies of shoving a
big stick in between them and prying them apart so I can get by.

When I was at my heaviest, I never really noticed other overweight
people, unless they were extremely obese. Now I think I may be
transferring my own insecurities and frustrations onto other people,
seeing in them what I don't like about myself. I don't know these
people, I don't ever roll my eyes or sigh or say anything rude, they
most likely have no idea of the inner vitriol in my head, but I am
hurting myself by it. I don't like being angry and frustrated. I
feel like these thoughts are poison.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3
flaws.

--
nimue

"If I had created reality television I would have had a much greater
influence, but then I would have had to KILL MYSELF."
Joss Whedon

Luna, I had those thoughts when I weighed 300 pounds. I would--and still
do--look at people fatter than myself and feel superior because I am not
THAT fat. Yes, they are absurd thoughts and feelings but we really can't
control them, we just need to recognize them for what they
are--irrational--and make sure we never act on them. We can control our
actions and doing so is the sign of an adult. You acted kindly toward the
woman, just what you should have done.

In news:[email hidden],
Luna <[email hidden]> stated
| I never, never, NEVER imagined that after losing 50 pounds I would
| start having these negative thoughts about overweight people. I
| myself am still overweight, so I have absolutely no justification for
| judging others.
|
| Yet, in certain situations lately, I have been having these really
| nasty thoughts. When I was at jury duty, in the assembly room, this
| very large woman was trying to get to her seat in the row behind me,
| and she smacked me in the back of the head with her bosom. It hurt,
| painfully wrenching my neck. She apologized, and I smiled and said
| "It's ok" but inside I was thinking "Fat cow!!" I was immediately
| ashamed for thinking that.
|
| Every time I go grocery shopping or to a mall, and I do mean _every_
| time, I am walking trying to get where I'm going and big people are
| in front of me, going painfully slowly. And there is no room to get
| around them. Sometimes, in the mall or department stores, there is
| room for them to walk two abreast, and I have fantasies of shoving a
| big stick in between them and prying them apart so I can get by.
|
| When I was at my heaviest, I never really noticed other overweight
| people, unless they were extremely obese. Now I think I may be
| transferring my own insecurities and frustrations onto other people,
| seeing in them what I don't like about myself. I don't know these
| people, I don't ever roll my eyes or sigh or say anything rude, they
| most likely have no idea of the inner vitriol in my head, but I am
| hurting myself by it. I don't like being angry and frustrated. I
| feel like these thoughts are poison.
|
| --
| Michelle Levin
| http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick
|
| I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3
| flaws.

I think part of it for me is feeling how "easy" it was to lose all of the
current weight because of LC. I think it suddenly seems like those still
heavy are "lazier" than us by not just getting out there and dropping 80lbs
or so ;-) Whereas, I don't think those people that exercise like mad to stay
thin feel necessarily the same way, because it's a hella lotta work to do it
their way :-)

FOB said:

Luna, I had those thoughts when I weighed 300 pounds. I would--and
still do--look at people fatter than myself and feel superior because
I am not THAT fat. Yes, they are absurd thoughts and feelings but we
really can't control them, we just need to recognize them for what
they are--irrational--and make sure we never act on them. We can
control our actions and doing so is the sign of an adult. You acted
kindly toward the woman, just what you should have done.

I have never had those evil, nasty, hateful thoughts against fat people, but
I have had them about others and EVERY time I have, it seems that the gods
pull me up short and make me think. Once, I was riding my bicycle in Tucson
and I saw some throw-back hippy-dippy types that adore Tucson and I sort of
rolled my eyes and thought, "What freaks." Then I wiped out on my bike.
Who rushed foward to help me and fixed my bike? You got it -- the hippies.
Another time I was in an ice cream store -- I had just gotten off the bus
and was balancing all kinds of packages and bags and I was waiting to be
picked up when I saw a 50-ish woman wearing a leather bustier sitting at a
table having an ice cream -- her deeply tanned skin was the same texture as
the leather and you could see WAY too much of it. Again, I thought, "Oh,
what a loser" and promptly dropped my packages and bags on the floor. Stuff
went rolling everywhere. Who -- the only one in the crowd, btw -- rushed
forward to help me? Ms. Leather Bustier herself. I have many of these
stories. Most recently I was standing on the crowded subway and I saw this
total gangster looking kid and I was thanking god he wasn't my student when
he looked up at me and said, "Miss, would you like my seat?" I was so
embarrassed by my thoughts I couldn't take the seat. I am glad whenever I
get too dreadful, the gods seem to send me a little message not to be so
judgmental.

Quoted message said:

In news:[email hidden],
Luna <[email hidden]> stated

Quoted message said:

I never, never, NEVER imagined that after losing 50 pounds I would
start having these negative thoughts about overweight people. I
myself am still overweight, so I have absolutely no justification for
judging others.

Yet, in certain situations lately, I have been having these really
nasty thoughts. When I was at jury duty, in the assembly room, this
very large woman was trying to get to her seat in the row behind me,
and she smacked me in the back of the head with her bosom. It hurt,
painfully wrenching my neck. She apologized, and I smiled and said
"It's ok" but inside I was thinking "Fat cow!!" I was immediately
ashamed for thinking that.

Every time I go grocery shopping or to a mall, and I do mean _every_
time, I am walking trying to get where I'm going and big people are
in front of me, going painfully slowly. And there is no room to get
around them. Sometimes, in the mall or department stores, there is
room for them to walk two abreast, and I have fantasies of shoving a
big stick in between them and prying them apart so I can get by.

When I was at my heaviest, I never really noticed other overweight
people, unless they were extremely obese. Now I think I may be
transferring my own insecurities and frustrations onto other people,
seeing in them what I don't like about myself. I don't know these
people, I don't ever roll my eyes or sigh or say anything rude, they
most likely have no idea of the inner vitriol in my head, but I am
hurting myself by it. I don't like being angry and frustrated. I
feel like these thoughts are poison.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3
flaws.

--
nimue

"If I had created reality television I would have had a much greater
influence, but then I would have had to KILL MYSELF."
Joss Whedon

I have them too, bad thoughts at times. I have them when all the handicapped
carts in the grocery store are gone, and I look around and see that most of
them are people that are 300 pounds or more. Sure, I was close to that weight
myself at one time. But when I think of how much weight I have lost, and my
back is about to give out, and I need one of them carts to just go get
groceries, then yeah.. I get [censored]. I do not say it out loud.

I get more [censored] inside too, when I see their carts full of junk food.

Those are my feelings. I own my own feelings. I think I see why I feel this
way. Yes, maybe it is judgmental.

In article <[email hidden]>,

(Sunshyne) said:

I have them too, bad thoughts at times. I have them when all the handicapped
carts in the grocery store are gone, and I look around and see that most of
them are people that are 300 pounds or more. Sure, I was close to that weight
myself at one time. But when I think of how much weight I have lost, and my
back is about to give out, and I need one of them carts to just go get
groceries, then yeah.. I get [censored]. I do not say it out loud.

I get more [censored] inside too, when I see their carts full of junk food.

Those are my feelings. I own my own feelings. I think I see why I feel this
way. Yes, maybe it is judgmental.

Yeah, I'm kinda like you in that respect. I don't just see fat people and
automatically hate them. I just get [censored] when their fatness interferes
with what I want to do. I don't get upset like that if say, a person in a
wheelchair is in front of me and I can't get around them. I guess it's a
matter of my being judgmental and self-centered. It's self-centered
because the large person is interefering with _me_ and I am judgmental in
that I think they should do something about being so big. But, I say to
myself, I didn't do anything about being fat for a long time either. But
then again, the other part of me says, I was never so fat that I couldn't
walk at a brisk pace or fit in a movie theater seat. But . . . I could
have gotten that fat, I really could have.

--
Michelle Levin
http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick

I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.

Hi,

Luna said:

I never, never, NEVER imagined that after losing 50 pounds I would
start having these negative thoughts about overweight people. I
myself am
still overweight, so I have absolutely no justification for judging
others.

Snip

BTDT. Sometimes when I'm cranky and [censored] it still happens. For me
it seems to stem from dislike for the Fat Carmen part of my
personality makeup. Kind of an external application/disowning of that
aspect of who I am. The fact that it makes you uncomfortable is good.
Makes it more unlikely to become an integral part of your thinking
that way.

Take care,
Carmen

"curt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<j_XNc.2157$FZ5.255@trndny07>...

Quoted message said:

Or.....I hope this isn't the case..., Maybe I want to not care about my
weight anymore and just eat what I want, so I take it out on the fat people
because I am jealous that they don't care and eat what they want.

Hmmm, I like my first thought better.

Curt

Curt, both your thoughts are valid. Most of my determination in this
WOL is that I never want to be even near 200 lbs again!..Ever! 203 was
my heaviest. That's a smaller amount than some on here, but at that
weight I was miserable in every way. I still have 20-25 lbs. to go so
I'm going to keep at it. And yes, sometimes I get a jealous thought
going through my head about an overweight (or slim) person being able
to eat whatever they want because they don't care. Sometimes I wish I
didn't care so much, but it is good for me to care about my health. I
see a really overweight person today and I think, man, if they would
just cut out the junk and eat real food they could be free from that
body they are stuck in (simple!). And I'm sorry, no obese person will
ever convince me that they are fine with their obesity (and maybe even
proud of it). Those are the ones that I could have evil thoughts about
if I chose to. lol. I know this is on another thread so I'll stop
there.

Luna, I too try to zip through the store in hurry and there are people
that just aren't paying attention and block the way. Most of the time
it really doesn't have anything to do with them being fat, sometimes
it is the elderly. Now in that case I have to especially watch my
frustration level realizing that I will be "there" (Lord willing) one
day. I would hope a young person would have patience with me. lol.

All in all, people can strip us of our patience quicker than a blink
of an eye if we let them.

Peggy
Atkins Since: 08-02-02
197/163/150-140

I also had this period of very mean feelings towards fat people. It
lasted about 5 months. Probably same as teenagers who hate their
parents, a process of dissociation of sorts, from my old
self. Probably commitment-building, as well.

i

Luna said:

Yeah, I'm kinda like you in that respect. I don't just see fat people and
automatically hate them. I just get [censored] when their fatness interferes
with what I want to do. I don't get upset like that if say, a person in a
wheelchair is in front of me and I can't get around them.

What if you know that the person in the wheelchair became disabled because (s)he
was drink-driving, had an accident and killed a couple of people as a result of
the accident? Would you still be patient for her/him?

I think the dislike towards people with certain traits is closely related to how
much control *WE* think they have over those traits. But we are not they, and
we know not how much control they have over their weight, appearance,
social-economic background, ability to walk, etc.

Quoted message said:

But, I say to
myself, I didn't do anything about being fat for a long time either. But
then again, the other part of me says, I was never so fat that I couldn't
walk at a brisk pace or fit in a movie theater seat. But . . . I could
have gotten that fat, I really could have.

That's definitely a scary thought. It's a reminder of our vulnerability to
destruction and death. I'm no saint, however a good twist of thought I'd like
myself to think when I see someone who is way bigger than I am, is that to thank
God and everybody who has played a role in helping me to find the determination
to get myself smaller. And I pray that I will get to my goal (or somewhere near
it) and that I'll find the determination and the resources to stay healthy and
at +/-5 lb of my go until the day I die. If after thinking through these
thoughts there's still some time spare before that big person snap out of my
view, I hope I can pray for him/her to have a healthy, happy and fulfilling life.

Ada

nimue said:

I have never had those evil, nasty, hateful thoughts against fat people, but
I have had them about others and EVERY time I have, it seems that the gods
pull me up short and make me think. Once, I was riding my bicycle in Tucson
and I saw some throw-back hippy-dippy types that adore Tucson and I sort of
rolled my eyes and thought, "What freaks." Then I wiped out on my bike.
Who rushed foward to help me and fixed my bike? You got it -- the hippies.
Another time I was in an ice cream store -- I had just gotten off the bus
and was balancing all kinds of packages and bags and I was waiting to be
picked up when I saw a 50-ish woman wearing a leather bustier sitting at a
table having an ice cream -- her deeply tanned skin was the same texture as
the leather and you could see WAY too much of it. Again, I thought, "Oh,
what a loser" and promptly dropped my packages and bags on the floor. Stuff
went rolling everywhere. Who -- the only one in the crowd, btw -- rushed
forward to help me? Ms. Leather Bustier herself. I have many of these
stories. Most recently I was standing on the crowded subway and I saw this
total gangster looking kid and I was thanking god he wasn't my student when
he looked up at me and said, "Miss, would you like my seat?" I was so
embarrassed by my thoughts I couldn't take the seat. I am glad whenever I
get too dreadful, the gods seem to send me a little message not to be so
judgmental.

Hey, I thought I looked pretty damn cute in that leather bustier! 🙂

I have had very similar experiences to yours. The universe truly does
have a sense of humor. In college I once had a gang of men follow me
late at night for several blocks, including several turns. They were
gaining. I was too from home so in desperation I just ran into a
house. Guess whose house? Lol. I'd delivered myself to their HOME.
Nice kids - I turned beet red as I apologized.

I look at thoughts like having the radio on. There are stations saying
about anything you can imagine. I may stop for a minute at a Howard
Stern or Rush Limbaugh, etc., and not judge myself for it, but I simply
don't choose to stay there. Similarly, I have thoughts that pop in that
I don't choose to dwell on. I don't kid myself that just because
they're mine means they're accurate. It doesn't work to "Stop thinking
about an apple," so I just notice my mind radio and choose to think
about something else. It's like changing the station.

Barb

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 00:15:09 GMT, Luna <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

I never, never, NEVER imagined that after losing 50 pounds I would start
having these negative thoughts about overweight people. I myself am still
overweight, so I have absolutely no justification for judging others.

Yet, in certain situations lately, I have been having these really nasty
thoughts. When I was at jury duty, in the assembly room, this very large
woman was trying to get to her seat in the row behind me, and she smacked
me in the back of the head with her bosom. It hurt, painfully wrenching my
neck. She apologized, and I smiled and said "It's ok" but inside I was
thinking "Fat cow!!" I was immediately ashamed for thinking that.

When I see people who can barely walk because of their weight, I feel so
bad for them, and wish it would be appropriate to introduce them to
low-carb, so they could be more healthy and happy. People have to make
their own decisions at their own time.

Carol
--
227/211.5/150
Fasting BG: 134
Bernstein Diabetes Solution 5/25/2004
Diabetes Dx 5/15/2001
http://photos.yahoo.com/carol_arie

I used to have disdain for fat people, then realized I was just lucky to have
descended from skinny people. Also, two of my best friends are morbidly obese.
One of them has put on the weight over the last 15 years -- she's really
heavy, maybe 150 pounds overweight. Anyway, she's been my friend the whole
time, and she's fretted about the weight and hasn't been able to get a handle
on it. I might be more judgmental of other really fat people if I hadn't seen
her go through this. I do think she's foolish for not making weight loss a
priority, because she's endangering her health, and that's foolish. But I
can't run her life for her.

My other morbidly obese friend is perfectly happy being "large" as she puts it.
She's not quite a fat acceptance type, but she's accepted herself as fat and
really doesn't have any interest in changing. But I had an interesting
experience with her. We went to a conference together, and she pointed out
this other morbidly obese woman and said "watch her at dinner, she's a horrible
eater." And I thought "what the hell do you mean?" Well, what she meant was
that the other woman was gluttonous in her attitude toward food. The type
who'd eat your potatoes if you didn't finish them, who'd ask the waiter for a
second and third dessert, and who had minimal table manners. She really did
eat like a pig. And it wasn't her weight that was bothersome, it was her
attitude, although that attitude undoubtedly made her fat.

Anyway, I get exasperated at people who get in my way for whatever reason, so I
get what Luna said initially. I also get exasperated at people who make
foolish choices, and at some point a heavy person who doesn't diet has made a
foolish choice, depending on the impact the weight is having on his or her
health.

Daria
166/under 145/under 145
sugar-free since 2/1/04
low-carb since 2/17/04

Damsel in dis Dress said:

Luna said:

I never, never, NEVER imagined that after losing 50 pounds I would
start having these negative thoughts about overweight people. I
myself am still overweight, so I have absolutely no justification
for judging others.

Yet, in certain situations lately, I have been having these really
nasty thoughts. When I was at jury duty, in the assembly room, this
very large woman was trying to get to her seat in the row behind me,
and she smacked me in the back of the head with her bosom. It hurt,
painfully wrenching my neck. She apologized, and I smiled and said
"It's ok" but inside I was thinking "Fat cow!!" I was immediately
ashamed for thinking that.

When I see people who can barely walk because of their weight, I feel
so bad for them, and wish it would be appropriate to introduce them to
low-carb, so they could be more healthy and happy. People have to
make their own decisions at their own time.

Carol

I like and admire you so much for feeling like this.

--
nimue

"If I had created reality television I would have had a much greater
influence, but then I would have had to KILL MYSELF."
Joss Whedon

nimue said:

Damsel in dis Dress said:

When I see people who can barely walk because of their weight, I feel
so bad for them, and wish it would be appropriate to introduce them to
low-carb, so they could be more healthy and happy. People have to
make their own decisions at their own time.

I like and admire you so much for feeling like this.

Please don't (although I do appreciate it). Everyone has their own take on
things, and that's just mine. I'm a nasty [censored] on other topics. Yin and
Yang.

Carol
--
227/211.5/150
Fasting BG: 134
Bernstein Diabetes Solution 5/25/2004
Diabetes Dx 5/15/2001
http://photos.yahoo.com/carol_arie

I agree with you on having both sides. I think nasty thoughts but also get
the urge to tell people about low carb because I didn't really know how easy
it would be just to make relatively small changes in the way I eat and have
weight loss happen and finding it out was such a revelation to me. A couple
of things stop me from running around preaching to strangers. One of these
is that I hate evangelists of any type. Another is that although I think
low carb is probably effective for most everyone, I realize that it is not
as easy for everyone as it has been for me. I don't have cravings for any
particular food, I do have cravings for particular tastes but can satisfy
them nicely with low carb choices. I don't have a family who insists on
having a high carb diet--my SO likes meat and fish and vegetables and it's
easy to fix him a rice or potato side dish once in a while to keep him from
wasting away. I don't have social situations where there is pressure to eat
goodies. I did, however, send a copy of Bernstein's book to a diabetic
friend. Didn't push her on it, just decided that it wasn't right to know
something that could be life changing for her and not share it.

In news:[email hidden],
Damsel in dis Dress <[email hidden]> stated
| Please don't (although I do appreciate it). Everyone has their own
| take on things, and that's just mine. I'm a nasty [censored] on other
| topics. Yin and Yang.
|
| Carol
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| 227/211.5/150
| Fasting BG: 134
| Bernstein Diabetes Solution 5/25/2004
| Diabetes Dx 5/15/2001
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