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  1. I just wanted to say that I did it, and what a fantastic event it was! The
    atmosphere even before race day was thrilling - even on the ride to the host
    village the day before to collect our transponders, some people we passed
    clapped and took photos. In Mourenx there was a carnival atmosphere and
    everyone seemed to be very happy. Such a huge contrast to how you would
    imagine it would be in the UK where people would most likely moan about
    hoards of cyclists invading their small towns and villages and their roads
    being closed so cyclists could have their fun.

    And fun it was. Everything I feared about the event - having to get up at
    4am and wondering if my bowels and digestion would work, how sleep
    deprivation would affect my ability to ride, handling reportedly 'dangerous'
    parts of the route - none of this was any problem at all on race day. The
    only problem was falling over a barrier as I climbed over it to have a quick
    pee before the 7.00am off! That was embarassing!

    At 7.00am the first riders started and, with a number in the 3,000's, I
    crossed the line 10 minutes later. The route rose steadily over the first
    50km, which I completed in 1h20, before reaching the first climb of the day,
    the Ichere. This was a 600m climb, not too bad, that didn't take long to
    despatch, with a quick descent and all too soon we reached the feared Marie
    Blanque, passing a refreshment stop that I skipped. As expected, this climb
    began relatively easy and then kicked up with about 4km to the summit
    leaving everyone with their head down gasping for breath! Fortunately I
    reached this climb early enough to be doing it with riders who were almost
    all riding it - later on there were so many walkers that even those who
    perhaps would have ridden it couldn't, because the walkers were spread all
    over the road. It was amazing to me to see just how narrow these roads
    over the cols are, and how close the spectators get to the riders - of
    course, you see it on the TV when you watch the tour, but to experience it,
    cutting a path through spectators applauding you and encouraging you on
    (even though about 3000 other riders have already gone through before you),
    is just amazing. Quite often on the climbs someone would shout 'Allez,
    allez - go on, go on, there is a beautiful young woman waiting for you at
    the top!' I couldn't help smiling as I thought 'even if there was I
    wouldn't be able to do anything when I reached her'!

    At the top of the Marie Blanque was a feed station, which riders descended
    on like a pack of sharks in a feeding frenzy. It took more time than I
    would have liked to reach a table and get a sandwich, banana, water and a
    couple of slices of orange which I ate in a rather hasty and uncivilised
    manner, ripping the juicy part off between my teeth and throwing down the
    skin in a second or two. Then it was off down the road towards the
    Aubisque.

    Just before reaching the climb up the Aubisque we passed the elimination
    point at Laruns. I was happy to note that I was an hour and a half ahead of
    the broom wagon at that point (94 km). And then began the 17km slog up the
    Aubisque. And what a slog it was. As the climb began I was happily riding
    at around 18~19 kph. By the time I reached about 10km from the summit I was
    down to 10kph! I thought to myself, 'well, at least if I can keep this up
    it will only be another hour to the summit'. Unfortunately, at the 9km mark
    I was down to 9kph, so there was still an hour to go! Then the same thing
    happened at the 8km mark! It seemed that with each hard-won kilometre, I
    was not getting any closer, in time, to the summit! It was always an hour
    away!

    Fortunately my speed in kph eventually exceeded the km markings in distance
    to go and the summit was gained, with another feeding frenzy. On starting
    the descent, my chain came off and jammed, costing me a few more minutes to
    figure out why I couldn't turn the cranks when I lifted it back onto the
    chainring - it had jumped off both the derailleur jockey wheels as well.
    The descent off the Aubisque to the Soulor was spectacular, beautiful and
    fast, the summit of the Soulor was easily gained and then a delightfully
    fast descent off the Soulor. Perhaps they had improved the road since the
    reports of the reconnaisance rides I had read, but I didn't see any problems
    with the surface or gravel on the road. It was a joy to be able to use the
    whole width of the road, at least to the extent that many riders just kept
    to the normal driving side anyway, making it quite easy and safe to pass
    people who were being more cautious than I in my descending.

    The last part of the ride after the road flattened out was more difficult
    for me - I got dropped from a faster group that I had caught up with, and
    rode a good 20 or 30 km alone.. alone, that is, except for a few people who,
    unnoticed until I turned my head round, had caught my wheel and were
    following on behind me without doing any work! Since they didn't show any
    inclination to go in front and I didn't want to slow down, things stayed
    like that until a faster group passed and I sped up just enough to settle
    down in the middle of them.

    Eventually, after a couple more small climbs the end was reached - with yet
    another uphill to the finish! I crossed the line after 7h45m, which was
    well within silver for my age category, but quite far off gold. Before the
    start I had decided that silver was always going to be the most likely
    outcome, and reckoned my time was likely to be about 7h30, based on
    experience in training rides and comparing distance and climbing involved
    (particularly the Polka Dot).

    So, now the only question is whether to do it again next year, or whether to
    try something different? If I did it again I would want to be riding for
    gold, and immediately afterwards I didn't think it likely I would be able to
    shave 48 minutes off my time on such a course. But already I'm not so sure
    about that.. it might be fun to try 😉

    Thanks to Arthur Clune, who, when I posted a message here expressing
    uncertainty about whether I had the necessary base to do such a ride said,
    'just book it, you can work out the (training) details later'. I never did
    get in quite as much training as I had hoped for, but this was by far the
    most enjoyable hard thing I have ever done!

    Rich

  2. Richard Goodman said:

    I just wanted to say that I did it, and what a fantastic event it was! The
    atmosphere even before race day was thrilling - even on the ride to the host
    village the day before to collect our transponders, some people we passed
    clapped and took photos. In Mourenx there was a carnival atmosphere and
    everyone seemed to be very happy. Such a huge contrast to how you would
    imagine it would be in the UK where people would most likely moan about
    hoards of cyclists invading their small towns and villages and their roads
    being closed so cyclists could have their fun.

    And fun it was. Everything I feared about the event - having to get up at
    4am and wondering if my bowels and digestion would work, how sleep
    deprivation would affect my ability to ride, handling reportedly 'dangerous'
    parts of the route - none of this was any problem at all on race day. The
    only problem was falling over a barrier as I climbed over it to have a quick
    pee before the 7.00am off! That was embarassing!

    At 7.00am the first riders started and, with a number in the 3,000's, I
    crossed the line 10 minutes later. The route rose steadily over the first
    50km, which I completed in 1h20, before reaching the first climb of the day,
    the Ichere. This was a 600m climb, not too bad, that didn't take long to
    despatch, with a quick descent and all too soon we reached the feared Marie
    Blanque, passing a refreshment stop that I skipped. As expected, this climb
    began relatively easy and then kicked up with about 4km to the summit
    leaving everyone with their head down gasping for breath! Fortunately I
    reached this climb early enough to be doing it with riders who were almost
    all riding it - later on there were so many walkers that even those who
    perhaps would have ridden it couldn't, because the walkers were spread all
    over the road. It was amazing to me to see just how narrow these roads
    over the cols are, and how close the spectators get to the riders - of
    course, you see it on the TV when you watch the tour, but to experience it,
    cutting a path through spectators applauding you and encouraging you on
    (even though about 3000 other riders have already gone through before you),
    is just amazing. Quite often on the climbs someone would shout 'Allez,
    allez - go on, go on, there is a beautiful young woman waiting for you at
    the top!' I couldn't help smiling as I thought 'even if there was I
    wouldn't be able to do anything when I reached her'!

    At the top of the Marie Blanque was a feed station, which riders descended
    on like a pack of sharks in a feeding frenzy. It took more time than I
    would have liked to reach a table and get a sandwich, banana, water and a
    couple of slices of orange which I ate in a rather hasty and uncivilised
    manner, ripping the juicy part off between my teeth and throwing down the
    skin in a second or two. Then it was off down the road towards the
    Aubisque.

    Just before reaching the climb up the Aubisque we passed the elimination
    point at Laruns. I was happy to note that I was an hour and a half ahead of
    the broom wagon at that point (94 km). And then began the 17km slog up the
    Aubisque. And what a slog it was. As the climb began I was happily riding
    at around 18~19 kph. By the time I reached about 10km from the summit I was
    down to 10kph! I thought to myself, 'well, at least if I can keep this up
    it will only be another hour to the summit'. Unfortunately, at the 9km mark
    I was down to 9kph, so there was still an hour to go! Then the same thing
    happened at the 8km mark! It seemed that with each hard-won kilometre, I
    was not getting any closer, in time, to the summit! It was always an hour
    away!

    Fortunately my speed in kph eventually exceeded the km markings in distance
    to go and the summit was gained, with another feeding frenzy. On starting
    the descent, my chain came off and jammed, costing me a few more minutes to
    figure out why I couldn't turn the cranks when I lifted it back onto the
    chainring - it had jumped off both the derailleur jockey wheels as well.
    The descent off the Aubisque to the Soulor was spectacular, beautiful and
    fast, the summit of the Soulor was easily gained and then a delightfully
    fast descent off the Soulor. Perhaps they had improved the road since the
    reports of the reconnaisance rides I had read, but I didn't see any problems
    with the surface or gravel on the road. It was a joy to be able to use the
    whole width of the road, at least to the extent that many riders just kept
    to the normal driving side anyway, making it quite easy and safe to pass
    people who were being more cautious than I in my descending.

    The last part of the ride after the road flattened out was more difficult
    for me - I got dropped from a faster group that I had caught up with, and
    rode a good 20 or 30 km alone.. alone, that is, except for a few people who,
    unnoticed until I turned my head round, had caught my wheel and were
    following on behind me without doing any work! Since they didn't show any
    inclination to go in front and I didn't want to slow down, things stayed
    like that until a faster group passed and I sped up just enough to settle
    down in the middle of them.

    Eventually, after a couple more small climbs the end was reached - with yet
    another uphill to the finish! I crossed the line after 7h45m, which was
    well within silver for my age category, but quite far off gold. Before the
    start I had decided that silver was always going to be the most likely
    outcome, and reckoned my time was likely to be about 7h30, based on
    experience in training rides and comparing distance and climbing involved
    (particularly the Polka Dot).

    So, now the only question is whether to do it again next year, or whether to
    try something different? If I did it again I would want to be riding for
    gold, and immediately afterwards I didn't think it likely I would be able to
    shave 48 minutes off my time on such a course. But already I'm not so sure
    about that.. it might be fun to try 😉

    Thanks to Arthur Clune, who, when I posted a message here expressing
    uncertainty about whether I had the necessary base to do such a ride said,
    'just book it, you can work out the (training) details later'. I never did
    get in quite as much training as I had hoped for, but this was by far the
    most enjoyable hard thing I have ever done!

    Nice report, well done RG; Marmotte/on next year?

  3. "MartinM" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Nice report, well done RG; Marmotte/on next year?

    Ah, you must have read my mind Martin! Thanks. I was indeed thinking about
    it, but the way I felt at the end of the Etape, with much less climbing (at
    least this year) than the Marmotte, left me wondering whether that might not
    be biting off a bit more than I could chew! I shall be thinking about it
    though. (Sadly, a rider was killed on this year's Marmotte, and there
    seemed to be some talk of not running it next year, but I hope there is no
    substance to that.)

    Rich

  4. Richard Goodman said:

    "MartinM" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Nice report, well done RG; Marmotte/on next year?

    Ah, you must have read my mind Martin! Thanks. I was indeed thinking about
    it, but the way I felt at the end of the Etape, with much less climbing (at
    least this year) than the Marmotte, left me wondering whether that might not
    be biting off a bit more than I could chew! I shall be thinking about it
    though. (Sadly, a rider was killed on this year's Marmotte,

    There is the alternative Brevet de Randonneur des Alpes run a couple of
    weeks before, same circuit but reversed, does not do AdH, ans starts /
    finishes in Grenoble so quite a bit longer (250k)

    www.ctg.free.fr

  5. Sounds great. What was the total distance? What bike did you use?

  6. "stupot" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Sounds great. What was the total distance? What bike did you use?

    It was great! It was 179km with 4 cols - the Ichere, Marie Blanque,
    Aubisque and Soulor. The bike was one I built up from various components -
    Ti frame, carbon forks, Xero wheelset - quite light and very sprightly.

    Rich

  7. Richard Goodman said:

    It was great! It was 179km with 4 cols - the Ichere, Marie Blanque,
    Aubisque and Soulor. The bike was one I built up from various components -
    Ti frame, carbon forks, Xero wheelset - quite light and very sprightly.


    :-) sounds very light. Roughly what number of lbs/kilos?

  8. Richard Goodman said:

    I just wanted to say that I did it, and what a fantastic event it was!

    Brilliant. Well done. Really, really well done, in fact. Nice report,
    too.

    Quoted message said:

    I never did
    get in quite as much training as I had hoped for, but this was by far the
    most enjoyable hard thing I have ever done!

    Right, that's decided. I'm /definitely/ entering next year. I can't
    keep reading these reports of people doing these things and just wish
    that I /could/ do them - I've got to just get out there and /do/ them!

    d.

  9. "stupot" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    :-) sounds very light. Roughly what number of lbs/kilos?

    2.2?

    cheers,
    clive

  10. in message <[email hidden]>, Richard Goodman

    (') said:

    I just wanted to say that I did it, and what a fantastic event it was!
    The atmosphere even before race day was thrilling - even on the ride
    to the host village the day before to collect our transponders, some
    people we passed
    clapped and took photos. In Mourenx there was a carnival atmosphere
    and
    everyone seemed to be very happy. Such a huge contrast to how you
    would imagine it would be in the UK where people would most likely moan
    about hoards of cyclists invading their small towns and villages and
    their roads being closed so cyclists could have their fun.

    Congratulations, and many thanks for the report. I'm sort of beginning to
    mull over the idea of doing one of these...

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    Error 1109: There is no message for this error

  11. davek said:

    Right, that's decided. I'm /definitely/ entering next year. I can't
    keep reading these reports of people doing these things and just wish
    that I /could/ do them - I've got to just get out there and /do/ them!

    absolutely; they do cycling in a way we can only dream of, but be
    warned, you will want to go back every year!

    Ardechoise, Marmotte and BRA are all good alternatives, but plenty of
    others to choose from

    BTW make sure you have a reserve option for l'Etape as apparently
    places are as rare as Live8 tickets.

  12. "Clive George" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    "stupot" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    :-) sounds very light. Roughly what number of lbs/kilos?

    2.2?

    Ahahahahaha, that's too funnay!

  13. "Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    in message <[email hidden]>, Richard Goodman
    ([email hidden]'😉 wrote:

    Congratulations, and many thanks for the report. I'm sort of beginning to
    mull over the idea of doing one of these...

    Me too, thanks! I wonder, would one be allowed to ride a recumbent on one
    of these rides?

  14. LSMike said:

    "Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    in message <[email hidden]>, Richard Goodman
    ([email hidden]'😉 wrote:

    Congratulations, and many thanks for the report. I'm sort of beginning to
    mull over the idea of doing one of these...

    Me too, thanks! I wonder, would one be allowed to ride a recumbent on one
    of these rides?

    I passed a 'bent shortly after the start of l'Ardechoise (so no
    surprise there ;-0)

  15. LSMike said:

    Me too, thanks! I wonder, would one be allowed to ride a recumbent
    on one of these rides?

    I think one of Bram Moens' mates has done so, so yes.

    --
    Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
    Pepperoni and green peppers, mushrooms, olives, chives!

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