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tony said:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=hruby/060801

I mean, where else would they get Benjo's pigeon story?

I didn't RTFA but if it's about Van der Poel and styrchnine It was in
the cycling news at the time and presumably is know by sportswriters
in Europe.

JT

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tony said:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=hruby/060801

I mean, where else would they get Benjo's pigeon story?

Why would Adri take rat poison?

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I mean, where else would they get Benjo's pigeon story?

Perhaps from a site on internet?

Benjo

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http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=hruby/060801

I mean, where else would they get Benjo's pigeon story?

Why would Adri take rat poison?

Strychnine, up to a point (death), tones tired muscles.

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http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=hruby/060801

I mean, where else would they get Benjo's pigeon story?

Perhaps from a site on internet?

Benjo

Results 1 - 10 of about 51 for Adri van der Poel, strychnine. (0.17 seconds)

B. Lafferty said:

Strychnine, up to a point (death), tones tired muscles.

Death, the ultimate toner.

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B. Lafferty said:

Strychnine, up to a point (death), tones tired muscles.

Death, the ultimate toner.

Yeah, if laff@me actually believes it let's see him try it. Tones muscles
indeed!

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B. Lafferty said:

Strychnine, up to a point (death), tones tired muscles.

Death, the ultimate toner.

Yeah, if laff@me actually believes it let's see him try it. Tones muscles
indeed!

If you've read Woodland's book on doping in cycling or any histories of six
day racing in the 19th and early 20th centuries, you know that it was quite
common to use strychnine to perk up the central nervous system and put a bit
of tension back into tired muscles.

"The history of modern doping begins with the cycling craze of the 1890s.
Here, for example, is a description of what went on during the six-day races
that lasted from Monday morning to Saturday night: " The riders' black
coffee was "boosted" with extra caffeine and peppermint, and as the race
progressed the mixture was spiked with increasing doses of cocaine and
strychnine. Brandy was also frequently added to cups of tea. Following the
sprint sequences of the race, nitroglycerine capsules were often given to
the cyclists to ease breathing difficulties. The individual 6-day races were
eventually replaced by two-man races, but the doping continued unabated.
Since drugs such as heroin or cocaine were widely taken in these tournaments
without supervision, it was perhaps likely that fatalities would occur." (4)
It is, therefore, not surprising that when the pioneering French sports
physician Philippe Tissié performed the first scientific doping experiments
in 1894, his test subject was a racing cyclist whose performances could be
timed and who could be primed with measured doses of alcohol or any other
potential stimulant. (5)"

http://www.mesomorphosis.com/articles/hoberman/tour-de-france-doping-scandal.htm

See also:
http://www.medicineweekly.ie/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=4471

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B. Lafferty wrote:
> Strychnine, up to a point (death), tones tired muscles.

Death, the ultimate toner.

Yeah, if laff@me actually believes it let's see him try it. Tones muscles
indeed!

If you've read Woodland's book on doping in cycling or any histories of
six day racing in the 19th and early 20th centuries, you know that it was
quite common to use strychnine to perk up the central nervous system and
put a bit of tension back into tired muscles.

"The history of modern doping begins with the cycling craze of the 1890s.
Here, for example, is a description of what went on during the six-day
races that lasted from Monday morning to Saturday night: " The riders'
black coffee was "boosted" with extra caffeine and peppermint, and as the
race progressed the mixture was spiked with increasing doses of cocaine
and strychnine. Brandy was also frequently added to cups of tea. Following
the sprint sequences of the race, nitroglycerine capsules were often given
to the cyclists to ease breathing difficulties. The individual 6-day races
were eventually replaced by two-man races, but the doping continued
unabated. Since drugs such as heroin or cocaine were widely taken in these
tournaments without supervision, it was perhaps likely that fatalities
would occur." (4) It is, therefore, not surprising that when the
pioneering French sports physician Philippe Tissié performed the first
scientific doping experiments in 1894, his test subject was a racing
cyclist whose performances could be timed and who could be primed with
measured doses of alcohol or any other potential stimulant. (5)"

Cyclists have always used doping. Soon after Paris-Rouen in 1869, the first
road race ever, there was an open discussion in the press as to which
substances had been the most effective in enhancing the performance of the
participants.

Benjo

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> B. Lafferty wrote:
>> Strychnine, up to a point (death), tones tired muscles.
>
> Death, the ultimate toner.

Yeah, if laff@me actually believes it let's see him try it. Tones
muscles indeed!

If you've read Woodland's book on doping in cycling or any histories of
six day racing in the 19th and early 20th centuries, you know that it was
quite common to use strychnine to perk up the central nervous system and
put a bit of tension back into tired muscles.

"The history of modern doping begins with the cycling craze of the 1890s.
Here, for example, is a description of what went on during the six-day
races that lasted from Monday morning to Saturday night: " The riders'
black coffee was "boosted" with extra caffeine and peppermint, and as the
race progressed the mixture was spiked with increasing doses of cocaine
and strychnine. Brandy was also frequently added to cups of tea.
Following the sprint sequences of the race, nitroglycerine capsules were
often given to the cyclists to ease breathing difficulties. The
individual 6-day races were eventually replaced by two-man races, but the
doping continued unabated. Since drugs such as heroin or cocaine were
widely taken in these tournaments without supervision, it was perhaps
likely that fatalities would occur." (4) It is, therefore, not surprising
that when the pioneering French sports physician Philippe Tissié
performed the first scientific doping experiments in 1894, his test
subject was a racing cyclist whose performances could be timed and who
could be primed with measured doses of alcohol or any other potential
stimulant. (5)"

Cyclists have always used doping. Soon after Paris-Rouen in 1869, the
first road race ever, there was an open discussion in the press as to
which substances had been the most effective in enhancing the performance
of the participants.

Benjo

Interesting. What did they conclude?

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Cyclists have always used doping. Soon after Paris-Rouen in 1869, the
first road race ever, there was an open discussion in the press as to
which substances had been the most effective in enhancing the
performance of the participants.

Of those discussions, the one by Benoit Lafferyaette is the most memorable.

There can be only one.

--
Bill Asher

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>> B. Lafferty wrote:
>>> Strychnine, up to a point (death), tones tired muscles.
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>> Death, the ultimate toner.
>
> Yeah, if laff@me actually believes it let's see him try it. Tones
> muscles indeed!

If you've read Woodland's book on doping in cycling or any histories of
six day racing in the 19th and early 20th centuries, you know that it
was quite common to use strychnine to perk up the central nervous system
and put a bit of tension back into tired muscles.

"The history of modern doping begins with the cycling craze of the
1890s. Here, for example, is a description of what went on during the
six-day races that lasted from Monday morning to Saturday night: " The
riders' black coffee was "boosted" with extra caffeine and peppermint,
and as the race progressed the mixture was spiked with increasing doses
of cocaine and strychnine. Brandy was also frequently added to cups of
tea. Following the sprint sequences of the race, nitroglycerine capsules
were often given to the cyclists to ease breathing difficulties. The
individual 6-day races were eventually replaced by two-man races, but
the doping continued unabated. Since drugs such as heroin or cocaine
were widely taken in these tournaments without supervision, it was
perhaps likely that fatalities would occur." (4) It is, therefore, not
surprising that when the pioneering French sports physician Philippe
Tissié performed the first scientific doping experiments in 1894, his
test subject was a racing cyclist whose performances could be timed and
who could be primed with measured doses of alcohol or any other
potential stimulant. (5)"

Cyclists have always used doping. Soon after Paris-Rouen in 1869, the
first road race ever, there was an open discussion in the press as to
which substances had been the most effective in enhancing the performance
of the participants.

Benjo

Interesting. What did they conclude?

Nothing special. But a few years later some journals were already publishing
advertisements in which well-known cylists were recommending pills, tablets,
etc. which were supposted to enhance their performances. I have no idea
about the ingredients.

Benjo

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Cyclists have always used doping. Soon after Paris-Rouen in 1869, the
first road race ever, there was an open discussion in the press as to
which substances had been the most effective in enhancing the
performance of the participants.

Of those discussions, the one by Benoit Lafferyaette is the most
memorable.

There can be only one.

--
Bill Asher

True. My great great grandfather Benoit was quite a character.

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B. Lafferty wrote:
> Strychnine, up to a point (death), tones tired muscles.

Death, the ultimate toner.

Yeah, if laff@me actually believes it let's see him try it. Tones muscles
indeed!

If you've read Woodland's book on doping in cycling or any histories of
six day racing in the 19th and early 20th centuries, you know that it was
quite common to use strychnine to perk up the central nervous system and
put a bit of tension back into tired muscles.

"The history of modern doping begins with the cycling craze of the 1890s.
Here, for example, is a description of what went on during the six-day
races that lasted from Monday morning to Saturday night: " The riders'
black coffee was "boosted" with extra caffeine and peppermint, and as the
race progressed the mixture was spiked with increasing doses of cocaine
and strychnine. Brandy was also frequently added to cups of tea. Following
the sprint sequences of the race, nitroglycerine capsules were often given
to the cyclists to ease breathing difficulties. The individual 6-day races
were eventually replaced by two-man races, but the doping continued
unabated. Since drugs such as heroin or cocaine were widely taken in these
tournaments without supervision, it was perhaps likely that fatalities
would occur." (4) It is, therefore, not surprising that when the
pioneering French sports physician Philippe Tissié performed the first
scientific doping experiments in 1894, his test subject was a racing
cyclist whose performances could be timed and who could be primed with
measured doses of alcohol or any other potential stimulant. (5)"

Everyone else get that? Peppermint is the THING! Those who use peppermint
know a bit more about doping than you or I.

Does anyone else remember that the REASON that they ended the caffeine
limits was because actual laboratory research showed that the smallest
amounts of caffeine were all that was necessary to max out the caffeine
effect? And that "extra caffeine" has no other effect other than to stress
the central nervous system, the kidneys and bladder.

laff@me is a lawyer and knows what heresay evidence is and yet seems
incapable of using nothing else.