"Mark Thompson" <[email hidden] (change warm for hot)> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
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I set an example when I jump red lights by dismounting and walking past
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then remounting the other side. Makes a nice balance between speed and
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law, and /really/ annoys the car drivers - I've got ahead of 'em without cheating!
You don't ride through Virginia Water sometimes, do you? There's a guy who rides there who does exactly what you describe. I keep passing him and then he walks his bike across the lights when they're on red. It really annoys me - and I'm on a bike! ___ Michael MacClancy
I think you can be satisfied with setting a "good" example yourself. I don't think you'll convert many "bad" cyclists by telling them off - whom in many cases aren't causing any trouble but are merely breaking rules, that while applying to cyclists in law, were actually designed for motorists. Exceptions might be having a go at those who really have caused trouble or educating children who genuienly don't seem to have a clue about their own safety.
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So while most cyclists don't break the rules, we're all assumed to be habitual red-light-runners who cycle around with no light and a flagrant disregard for all traffic laws. I get the impression that pointing these things out to other cyclists is letting the side down - is that fair?
I don't think it does any good - including to one's own blood pressure.
Agree. I use to moan at other cyclists, but found I was just turning into Mr Grumpy. I now see myself as an example setter. A sort of reassurance for them - I hope my actions are saying "Look, it's OK to stop and wait at lights - see, I am doing it and in doing so I am displaying to motorists that _I_ am _also_ traffic.
"Mark Thompson" <[email hidden] (change warm for hot)> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
I set an example when I jump red lights by dismounting and walking past
'em,
Quoted message said:
then remounting the other side. Makes a nice balance between speed and
the
Quoted message said:
law, and /really/ annoys the car drivers - I've got ahead of 'em without cheating!
You don't ride through Virginia Water sometimes, do you? There's a guy who rides there who does exactly what you describe. I keep passing him and then he walks his bike across the lights when they're on red. It really annoys me - and I'm on a bike! ___ Michael MacClancy
"Mark Thompson" <[email hidden] (change warm for hot)>typed
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It's not that it's unfair, it's just that it's easier for the yob on the cycle to take a swing at you than it is for someone in their tin box. Also, the cyclist hasn't just tried to run you down! I set an example when I jump red lights by dismounting and walking past 'em, then remounting the other side. Makes a nice balance between speed and the law, and /really/ annoys the car drivers - I've got ahead of 'em without cheating!
If you wheel your bike past a red light, you *are* breaking the law...
"Mark Thompson" <[email hidden] (change warm for hot)>typed
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It's not that it's unfair, it's just that it's easier for the yob on the cycle to take a swing at you than it is for someone in their tin box. Also, the cyclist hasn't just tried to run you down! I set an example when I jump red lights by dismounting and walking past 'em, then remounting the other side. Makes a nice balance between speed and the law, and /really/ annoys the car drivers - I've got ahead of 'em without cheating!
If you wheel your bike past a red light, you *are* breaking the law...
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"Mark Thompson" <[email hidden] (change warm for hot)>typed
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It's not that it's unfair, it's just that it's easier for the yob on the cycle to take a swing at you than it is for someone in their tin box. Also, the cyclist hasn't just tried to run you down! I set an example when I jump red lights by dismounting and walking past 'em, then remounting the other side. Makes a nice balance between speed and the law, and /really/ annoys the car drivers - I've got ahead of 'em without cheating!
If you wheel your bike past a red light, you *are* breaking the law...
On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:09:35 -0000, Mark Thompson <[email hidden] (change warm for
hot) said:
I set an example when I jump red lights by dismounting and walking past 'em, then remounting the other side. Makes a nice balance between speed and the law, and /really/ annoys the car drivers - I've got ahead of 'em without cheating!
I set an example and get a bit of a breather by stopping at the line and waiting for the lights to change. To be honest by the time I'd have dismounted, crossed the road and remounted the lights would have changed and I'd then have to wait to pull off into traffic.
On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 20:09:35 -0000, Mark Thompson <[email hidden] (change warm for
hot) said:
I set an example when I jump red lights by dismounting and walking past 'em, then remounting the other side. Makes a nice balance between speed and the law, and /really/ annoys the car drivers - I've got ahead of 'em without cheating!
I set an example and get a bit of a breather by stopping at the line and waiting for the lights to change. To be honest by the time I'd have dismounted, crossed the road and remounted the lights would have changed and I'd then have to wait to pull off into traffic.