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  1. November 24,
    1999
    Tony Acosta
    Director, Office of Parks, Recreation, and Cultural Affairs
    1520 Lakeside Drive
    Oakland, CA 94612

    Re: Access to Joaquin Miller Park

    Dear Sir:

    I am very concerned about the arbitrary and discriminatory
    management of Oakland's parks. I like to practice bulldozer racing
    (also known as "bulldozer scrambling", or BS, for short). That is my
    way of enjoying nature. Who are you to tell me how I should enjoy
    nature?! Why is your way of enjoying the outdoors any better than
    mine?! You allow roller-bladers, equestrians, mountain bikers, and
    even hikers in your parks. But I am excluded, and can't enjoy the
    parks that I pay taxes for. You obviously like them better than me, or
    maybe you belong to one of those user groups, so you are biased
    towards them. In any case, you are discriminating against me and other
    bulldozer racers, and I demand that this discrimination, which
    violates the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution, stop immediately!

    I know that bulldozer racers have a bad name, but that's just
    because we are the new kid on the block. We are a tiny minority. I
    know that there have been some problems, such as some people riding
    recklessly, going off the designated trails, and even secretly
    constructing illegal trails. But those are a small minority of
    bulldozer riders. You shouldn't allow a small minority to give the
    majority of us bulldozer racers, who ride responsibly, a bad name. Why
    should we be punished, just because of them, and be forced to walk,
    just like everybody else?

    I also know that some extremist tree-huggers claim that it's a
    violation of CEQA (the California Environmental Quality Act) to allow
    a new use of the park trails, and the creation of new trails, without
    doing an EIR (Environmental Impact Report). But you are right:
    mountain biking and bulldozer racing, when performed in an
    environmentally responsible manner, doesn't have a significant impact
    on the environment. In fact, it's actually beneficial to wildlife. You
    can tell that, by the fact that you often see deer tracks on the
    mountain biking trails. If the trails didn't benefit them, they
    wouldn't use them, now would they? Bulldozer racing doesn't drive out
    wildlife. That is a myth. I see lots of wildlife where I ride.

    Some people say that we ride too fast to avoid killing small
    animals on the trail, such as snakes -- that we have to pay attention
    to avoid crashing, and can't also look out for wildlife. Are they that
    slow? What about "survival of the fittest"? If they are that slow,
    they aren't going to survive, anyway.

    Some HOHAs ("Hateful Old Hikers", as the mountain bikers call
    them) claim that bulldozer racing does more harm to the environment
    than hiking. But a scientific study was done in New Zealand, proving
    that bulldozer racing does no more harm than hiking. Another
    scientific study showed that most erosion is caused by nature, and so
    any additional erosion caused by bulldozer racing is not significant,
    by comparison. Would you rather have the park clear-cut, or turned
    into another gated community for the rich? Without the support of
    strong environmentalists like us, that's what will inevitably happen!
    We are your strongest defense against development. If a park doesn't
    have a strong constituency of recreational users, no one will care
    about it, and it will inevitably be lost. (That's what those
    environmental extremists call "destroying it, in order to save it".
    But what do they know?) The HOHAs claim that vehicles make it too easy
    for lazy, uncaring people to get into wildlife habitat. But if nobody
    goes there, who will protect the park? The more people go to a park,
    the better it is for the wildlife!

    Another claim is that we compact the soil around redwoods, killing
    them! Can you believe that?! In Muir Woods National Monument, they
    don't even let people walk next to them, making them stick to pavement
    or raised walkways. They must be run by an environmental extremist
    tree-hugger!

    I know that some HOHAs claim that bulldozer racing is
    annoying, and destroys their experience of nature. I guess they're
    superior to everybody else. They are just being selfish. They just
    don't want to share "their" trails with anybody else! That's obvious.
    The older ones claim that they have given up going there, because they
    are afraid of being hit, or are tired of constantly having to get off
    the trail to let bulldozers go by. Isn't that just evolution --
    survival of the fittest? Why should hikers, or anyone else, have the
    whole park to themselves? We pay taxes, too. We have just as much
    right to be there as they do. We are just as much environmentalists as
    they are. We love nature! That's why we want to ride there!

    When you have spent as much on your equipment as we have, believe me,
    it is very frustrating, not to have any place to use it! We don't, of
    course, condone illegal trail building. However, we can understand the
    frustration of people whose only sin is preferring a different way of
    enjoying nature. They think that, because they are able to purchase a
    piece of equipment that lets them go off-road, the public is obligated
    to give them a place to use it. That's understandable -- isn't that
    the American way? Aren't they just like the pioneers?

    We bulldozer racers ("BS-ers"😉 belong in the parks just as much as
    everybody else. If the HOHAs don't want us on their trails, because we
    allegedly create narrow ruts, and make them difficult to walk on, then
    we deserve to have our own trails, which we will gladly build for
    free. There is plenty of space for everyone. If the wildlife don't
    like it, they can always move! It's just survival of the fittest. As I
    said, that's what evolution is all about.

    We will even police our own riders, so that you won't have any
    additional expenses. After all, how would you catch a renegade
    bulldozer racer? Your rangers would also need to drive bulldozers,
    increasing the wear and tear on the trails. We can do that for you.
    How about it? There are more and more of us every day. And we vote.

    Sincerely,

    Michael J.
    Vandeman, Ph.D.
    ===
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

  2. "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    November 24,
    1999
    Tony Acosta
    Director, Office of Parks, Recreation, and Cultural Affairs
    1520 Lakeside Drive
    Oakland, CA 94612

    Re: Access to Joaquin Miller Park

    Dear Sir:

    Here you have Mike's most prized piece of work, he's so proud of this little
    attempt to be funny, he has posted it over and over again since 1999.
    What a wasted life.

  3. <top post>

    Yawn.

    You have been posting this [censored] several times a year for nearly 7 years now.
    It has been soundly debunked each and every time you post it, yet it appears
    again. Are you stupid, or what?

    </top post>

    <snip>

  4. "Jeff Strickland" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    Mike Vandeman wrote
    http://groups.google.com/group/alt.mountain-bike/msg/e775473a090d4e2c

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    PS: I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits
    to humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous
    8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)



    [Jeff]

    Quoted message said:

    Yawn.
    You, Mike Vandeman have been posting this [censored] several times a year for
    nearly 7 years now. It has been soundly debunked each and every time you
    post it, yet it appears again. Are you stupid, or what?


    [hanson]
    ahahahaha...Jeff!... VDman is not stupid in the generally accepted
    sense. VD is a class 3 enviro who ever so desperately tries to rise
    into the lucrative class 1 or 2 enviro classes. He so implies this in
    his PS in every post of his. So far VD has not qualified and remains
    relegated to be a poverty stricken class 3 greenie... ahahaha...
    ahahaha... ahahahanson

    Quoted message said:


    Key:
    Modern, attributal definitions of enviro classifications:
    ========= enviro Class (1) --- the Green [censored](s):
    ....are the ones who advocate, promote, support, legalize,
    institute and extort the permit charges, the user fees, the
    enviro surtaxes and the CO2/Carbon tax, all reflected in
    HIGHER PRICES of goods and services!, ...and being
    responsible for much of the OUT-SOURCING!
    ========= enviro Class (2) -- the Green turd(s):
    .... are the ones who are recipients and beneficiaries from
    the lootings of (1), directly or indirectly.
    ========= enviro Class (3) -- the Little green idiot(s):
    ... are the unpaid, well-meaning ones who think they do
    something for the "environment", when in fact they are only
    the enablers and facilitators for (2) who are harvesting the
    green $$$ that (1) has extorted.

  5. di said:


    "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    November 24,
    1999
    Tony Acosta
    Director, Office of Parks, Recreation, and Cultural Affairs
    1520 Lakeside Drive
    Oakland, CA 94612

    Re: Access to Joaquin Miller Park

    Dear Sir:

    Here you have Mike's most prized piece of work, he's so proud of this little
    attempt to be funny, he has posted it over and over again since 1999.

    Vastly superior to your lame comments....

    Quoted message said:

    What a wasted life.


    ===
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

  6. Jeff Strickland said:

    <top post>

    Yawn.

    You have been posting this [censored] several times a year for nearly 7 years now.
    It has been soundly debunked each and every time you post it,

    Show me or shut up, LIAR.

    yet it appears

    Quoted message said:

    again. Are you stupid, or what?

    </top post>

    <snip>


    ===
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

  7. Mike Vandeman said:

    Show me or shut up, LIAR.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Ohh the irony of it all, I wonder if you can even see the irony mikey
    you're so blinded.

  8. jason said:
    Mike Vandeman said:

    Show me or shut up, LIAR.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Ohh the irony of it all, I wonder if you can even see the irony mikey
    you're so blinded.

    He gets his jollies from replies. It would [censored] him off to no end if he
    was ignored... <hint>

  9. mv is and always has been a delusional monomaniac with poor listening
    skills and questionable deductive ability, just ignore him. I do......

    Oh B****X, I've been paying attention to him again.

  10. Mike Vandeman said:
    di said:

    "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    November 24,
    1999
    Tony Acosta
    Director, Office of Parks, Recreation, and Cultural Affairs
    1520 Lakeside Drive
    Oakland, CA 94612

    Re: Access to Joaquin Miller Park

    Dear Sir:


    Here you have Mike's most prized piece of work, he's so proud of this little
    attempt to be funny, he has posted it over and over again since 1999.

    Vastly superior to your lame comments....

    says who? douchebag ..

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    What a wasted life.


    ===
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

  11. jason said:
    Mike Vandeman said:

    Show me or shut up, LIAR.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Ohh the irony of it all, I wonder if you can even see the irony mikey
    you're so blinded.

    You are attempting rational discourse with an irrational being.

    PH

  12. "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Jeff Strickland said:

    <top post>

    Yawn.

    You have been posting this [censored] several times a year for nearly 7 years
    now.
    It has been soundly debunked each and every time you post it,

    Show me or shut up, LIAR.

    When I first asked if you were stupid, it was a rhetorical question. Now, it
    sounds like a silly question.

    I don't need to explain "rhetorical", do I?

  13. "pmhilton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    jason said:
    Mike Vandeman said:

    Show me or shut up, LIAR.

    Quoted message said:

    >

    Ohh the irony of it all, I wonder if you can even see the irony mikey
    you're so blinded.

    You are attempting rational discourse with an irrational being.

    PH

    Guilty, your honor ...

  14. On 23 Oct 2006 06:54:12 -0700, "jahwomble" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    mv is and always has been a delusional monomaniac with poor listening
    skills and questionable deductive ability, just ignore him. I do......

    Because none of you can refute me.
    ===
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

  15. "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On 23 Oct 2006 06:54:12 -0700, "jahwomble" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    mv is and always has been a delusional monomaniac with poor listening
    skills and questionable deductive ability, just ignore him. I do......

    Because none of you can refute me.
    ===


    You poking your fingers in your ears and chanting "I'm not listening..."
    hardly counts. Your refusal to acknowledge any information that doesn't pass
    your "opinion filter" is no gauge of determining what has or has not been
    refuted.
    A simple Google Group search of your name will show years of your stagnant
    opinions taken to task by many with actual information, knowledge and field
    experience.
    Fortunately, those who are in charge have also recognized this real
    information and continue to work in cooperation with cyclists' organizations
    to make nature and access enjoyable for everyone.

  16. How can anyone refute someone who is a legend in their own mind?

    "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On 23 Oct 2006 06:54:12 -0700, "jahwomble" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    mv is and always has been a delusional monomaniac with poor listening
    skills and questionable deductive ability, just ignore him. I do......

    Because none of you can refute me.

  17. Jeff Strickland said:


    When I first asked if you were stupid, it was a rhetorical question.
    Now, it sounds like a silly question.

    I don't need to explain "rhetorical", do I?


    Perhaps you'd better. MV doesn't recognize/understand irony, sarcasm,
    hyperbole,

    factual data & most other trappings of civil discourse; it's entirely
    possible

    that rhetorical is also beyond his comprehension.

    PH

  18. pmhilton said:
    Jeff Strickland said:


    When I first asked if you were stupid, it was a rhetorical question.
    Now, it sounds like a silly question.

    I don't need to explain "rhetorical", do I?


    Perhaps you'd better. MV doesn't recognize/understand irony, sarcasm,
    hyperbole,

    factual data & most other trappings of civil discourse; it's entirely
    possible

    that rhetorical is also beyond his comprehension.

    Probably less "possible" and
    more "probable"

  19. Mike Vandeman <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    November 24,
    1999
    Tony Acosta
    Director, Office of Parks, Recreation, and Cultural Affairs
    1520 Lakeside Drive
    Oakland, CA 94612

    Re: Access to Joaquin Miller Park

    Dear Sir:

    I am very concerned about the arbitrary and discriminatory
    management of Oakland's parks. I like to practice bulldozer racing
    (also known as "bulldozer scrambling", or BS, for short). That is my
    way of enjoying nature. Who are you to tell me how I should enjoy
    nature?! Why is your way of enjoying the outdoors any better than
    mine?! You allow roller-bladers, equestrians, mountain bikers, and
    even hikers in your parks. But I am excluded, and can't enjoy the
    parks that I pay taxes for. You obviously like them better than me, or
    maybe you belong to one of those user groups, so you are biased
    towards them. In any case, you are discriminating against me and other
    bulldozer racers, and I demand that this discrimination, which
    violates the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution, stop immediately!

    I know that bulldozer racers have a bad name, but that's just
    because we are the new kid on the block. We are a tiny minority. I
    know that there have been some problems, such as some people riding
    recklessly, going off the designated trails, and even secretly
    constructing illegal trails. But those are a small minority of
    bulldozer riders. You shouldn't allow a small minority to give the
    majority of us bulldozer racers, who ride responsibly, a bad name. Why
    should we be punished, just because of them, and be forced to walk,
    just like everybody else?

    I also know that some extremist tree-huggers claim that it's a
    violation of CEQA (the California Environmental Quality Act) to allow
    a new use of the park trails, and the creation of new trails, without
    doing an EIR (Environmental Impact Report). But you are right:
    mountain biking and bulldozer racing, when performed in an
    environmentally responsible manner, doesn't have a significant impact
    on the environment. In fact, it's actually beneficial to wildlife. You
    can tell that, by the fact that you often see deer tracks on the
    mountain biking trails. If the trails didn't benefit them, they
    wouldn't use them, now would they? Bulldozer racing doesn't drive out
    wildlife. That is a myth. I see lots of wildlife where I ride.

    Some people say that we ride too fast to avoid killing small
    animals on the trail, such as snakes -- that we have to pay attention
    to avoid crashing, and can't also look out for wildlife. Are they that
    slow? What about "survival of the fittest"? If they are that slow,
    they aren't going to survive, anyway.

    Some HOHAs ("Hateful Old Hikers", as the mountain bikers call
    them) claim that bulldozer racing does more harm to the environment
    than hiking. But a scientific study was done in New Zealand, proving
    that bulldozer racing does no more harm than hiking. Another
    scientific study showed that most erosion is caused by nature, and so
    any additional erosion caused by bulldozer racing is not significant,
    by comparison. Would you rather have the park clear-cut, or turned
    into another gated community for the rich? Without the support of
    strong environmentalists like us, that's what will inevitably happen!
    We are your strongest defense against development. If a park doesn't
    have a strong constituency of recreational users, no one will care
    about it, and it will inevitably be lost. (That's what those
    environmental extremists call "destroying it, in order to save it".
    But what do they know?) The HOHAs claim that vehicles make it too easy
    for lazy, uncaring people to get into wildlife habitat. But if nobody
    goes there, who will protect the park? The more people go to a park,
    the better it is for the wildlife!

    Another claim is that we compact the soil around redwoods, killing
    them! Can you believe that?! In Muir Woods National Monument, they
    don't even let people walk next to them, making them stick to pavement
    or raised walkways. They must be run by an environmental extremist
    tree-hugger!

    I know that some HOHAs claim that bulldozer racing is
    annoying, and destroys their experience of nature. I guess they're
    superior to everybody else. They are just being selfish. They just
    don't want to share "their" trails with anybody else! That's obvious.
    The older ones claim that they have given up going there, because they
    are afraid of being hit, or are tired of constantly having to get off
    the trail to let bulldozers go by. Isn't that just evolution --
    survival of the fittest? Why should hikers, or anyone else, have the
    whole park to themselves? We pay taxes, too. We have just as much
    right to be there as they do. We are just as much environmentalists as
    they are. We love nature! That's why we want to ride there!

    When you have spent as much on your equipment as we have, believe me,
    it is very frustrating, not to have any place to use it! We don't, of
    course, condone illegal trail building. However, we can understand the
    frustration of people whose only sin is preferring a different way of
    enjoying nature. They think that, because they are able to purchase a
    piece of equipment that lets them go off-road, the public is obligated
    to give them a place to use it. That's understandable -- isn't that
    the American way? Aren't they just like the pioneers?

    We bulldozer racers ("BS-ers"😉 belong in the parks just as much as
    everybody else. If the HOHAs don't want us on their trails, because we
    allegedly create narrow ruts, and make them difficult to walk on, then
    we deserve to have our own trails, which we will gladly build for
    free. There is plenty of space for everyone. If the wildlife don't
    like it, they can always move! It's just survival of the fittest. As I
    said, that's what evolution is all about.

    We will even police our own riders, so that you won't have any
    additional expenses. After all, how would you catch a renegade
    bulldozer racer? Your rangers would also need to drive bulldozers,
    increasing the wear and tear on the trails. We can do that for you.
    How about it? There are more and more of us every day. And we vote.

    Sincerely,

    Michael J.
    Vandeman, Ph.D.
    ===
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you
    are fond of!

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

    Mike, this horse is long since dead. You post this [censored] a couple of
    times a year. Find a new drum to beat

    --
    Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

  20. Mike Vandeman <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:
    Jeff Strickland said:

    <top post>

    Yawn.

    You have been posting this [censored] several times a year for nearly 7
    years now. It has been soundly debunked each and every time you post
    it,

    Show me or shut up, LIAR.

    yet it appears

    Quoted message said:

    again. Are you stupid, or what?

    </top post>

    <snip>


    ===
    I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
    humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
    years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

    Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you
    are fond of!

    http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

    Here we go again, LIAR, DUH, Did you say something??

    I see he selected LIAR this time.

    Step right up, Spin the wheel of Mikey responses, What's is going to be
    this time???

    --
    Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

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