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  1. I have been reading recently how import it is to receive an adequate amount
    of enzymes, especially to avoid disease like cancer.

    Cooking destroys all enzymes. So this would mean one would need to eat a
    good amount of their veggies raw. A meat eater would have to eat their meat
    raw. IKKK!!!

    What supplements do dairy eating vegetarians need most and do they need to
    take digestive enzymes at all if they eat some raw veggies? If not, how much
    raw veggies must be eaten and what would be the best ones (ones with the
    most enzymes)

    Thank you!

    Rachel

  2. Rachel said:

    I have been reading recently how import it is to receive an adequate amount
    of enzymes, especially to avoid disease like cancer.

    Cooking destroys all enzymes. So this would mean one would need to eat a
    good amount of their veggies raw. A meat eater would have to eat their meat
    raw. IKKK!!!

    What supplements do dairy eating vegetarians need most and do they need to
    take digestive enzymes at all if they eat some raw veggies? If not, how much
    raw veggies must be eaten and what would be the best ones (ones with the
    most enzymes)

    Vegetables are a not high in enzymes. Foods that are high in enzymes are
    sprouts (the highest), raw honey, grapes, figs, avocados, bananas,
    papayas, pineapple, kiwi, mango and unpasteurized fermented/cultured
    foods like sauerkraut, tempeh, miso, pickles, kefir, yogurt, sour milk, etc.

    --
    Dawid Michalczyk
    http://www.art.eonworks.com - Art and Illustration

  3. Any particular type of sprouts?
    You say, grapes. Does that include red wine? What about noni juice
    concentrate?
    Thanks

    "Dawid Michalczyk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    |
    | Vegetables are a not high in enzymes. Foods that are high in enzymes are
    | sprouts (the highest), raw honey, grapes, figs, avocados, bananas,
    | papayas, pineapple, kiwi, mango and unpasteurized fermented/cultured
    | foods like sauerkraut, tempeh, miso, pickles, kefir, yogurt, sour milk,
    etc.
    |
    | --
    | Dawid Michalczyk
    | http://www.art.eonworks.com - Art and Illustration

  4. The problem you should consider is the one I encountered after several
    years on a diet of whole grains, nuts, seeds, and beans, with small
    amounts of fruits and vegetables. That is, you should be concerned
    about the anti-nutritive substances found in many plant foods.
    Fermenting removes most of them, but then you should not load up on
    lactic acid either. I am still taking stomach acid and pepsin
    supplements, and if you have digestive problems, you should consider
    this, but your saliva produces enzymes to break down carbohydrates, and
    you can use coconut oil, because that is absorbed differently and is
    very easy to digest. I don't eat "meat" but I eat large amounts of
    dairy, never homogenized, almost all organic, some raw (cheese). I
    also eat plenty of fruit, dark chocolate, and an egg a day. Small
    amounts of nutritional yeast and vegetables (that are cooked - potatoes
    are good) round out the cast. I do make my own breads, but don't eat
    large amounts. The "enzyme issue" is just not a major problem, just
    like the claims for "essential fatty acids," which in practical terms
    are actually dangerous. My great grandfather lived to be 100+ and
    never ate any source of omega 3s that are being advocated these days.
    No canola oil, flax, oily fish, pumpkin seeds, etc. The root cause of
    "chronic disease" is now known to be oxidative stress - everything else
    comes in later, if at all. You can do your own research at pubmed.com
    and you'll see what I mean. There are all kinds of strange claims out
    there - the homocysteine revolution, the XO factor, the Mediterranean
    diet, the Okinawan diet, antioxidant supplements, etc. Some of these
    are BS, but most have at least a grain of truth. The homocysteine
    stuff has its root cause in oxidative stress. Antioxidants do
    attenuate oxidative stress, which is theoretically good, but not enough
    is known, and the supplements may not even be what the bottle says.
    Eating blueberries and dark chocolate for antioxidants is a better
    idea, for example.

  5. montygram said:

    No canola oil, flax, oily fish, pumpkin seeds, etc. The root cause of
    "chronic disease" is now known to be oxidative stress - everything else
    comes in later, if at all. You can do your own research at pubmed.com

    Please explain the term "oxidative stress" . Thanks

  6. "montygram" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    The problem you should consider is the one I encountered after several
    years on a diet of whole grains, nuts, seeds, and beans, with small
    amounts of fruits and vegetables.


    Ah, ha! That is the horribly-protein-excessive and
    nutritionally-unsound diet you failed on, and wrecked your digestion, that
    you now use to claim that vegan diets don't work?
    Apparently, you have no idea of the protein requirements of our species,
    and have suffered long-term protein-toxicity. Like Billings, and other
    vocal vegan failures, you can't admit that YOU failed, so you blame an
    unspecified "vegan diet".
    http://www.ecologos.org/pro.htm
    http://www.ecologos.org/pp.html

    Quoted message said:

    I am still taking stomach acid and pepsin supplements, ...


    ... because you wrecked your digestion with such a foolish high-protein
    diet?

    Quoted message said:

    I don't eat "meat" but I eat large amounts of ...


    Animal protein is considered "not me" by the immunological system, so by
    "gut leakage" keeps the IS in a frenzy.

    Quoted message said:

    My great grandfather lived to be 100+ ...


    And also had the advantage of fresh, unpesticided, clean foods not
    available to you or your junk food upbringing.

    Quoted message said:

    Antioxidants do attenuate oxidative stress, ...


    ... and are found in fruits and vegs, which you ate in "small amounts",
    thus increasing the oxidative stress created by such a protein-excessive
    diet.

    Laurie

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