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Energy Drinks: How Heavy?!?

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  1. OK, I know I could go to a post office or something and actually weigh
    stuff, but where's the fun in that?

    On a recent ride I jokingly referred to my (all-carbon) bike as a boat
    anchor, and my friend lifted it up and said something like, "Wow, it IS
    heavy".

    So then I pulled off my full water bottle and he did the same with his, and
    I was shocked -- OK, quite surprised -- at how much heavier mine was than
    his.

    The only apparent difference (besides bottle brands) was that mine was
    filled with my proprietary Gatorade/Lemonade/Tang concoction, whereas his
    was just plain water. (Both bottles were the larger size -- his a clear
    Bontrager and mine a seemingly bit thicker plastic "team"-type bottle.)

    So my question is, how much heavier is a water bottle filled with energy
    drink than with plain H2O?

    I'm going for a ride in a bit. Please have your answers on my desk(top) by
    this afternoon...and of course, show your work.

    Just don't go to the post office for help.

    Bill S.

  2. Which nerd's turn is it to get out their calculator?

    Why don't you measure the dry ingredients that you mix in the water
    itself. That's the difference between H2O and a sports drink of the
    same volume.

    Use your noggin.

    Randolf

  3. Quoted message said:

    Which nerd's turn is it to get out their calculator?

    Why don't you measure the dry ingredients that you mix in the water
    itself. That's the difference between H2O and a sports drink of the
    same volume.

    Use your noggin.

    Ah, but with displacement along with...dissolvement (?) (OK, absorption),
    it's not quite that simple.

    Like I said, I could go to the P.O. and actually weigh two bottles, but
    mental masturbation (noggin noogie) is more fun.

    (I also suspect that protein-type powders are heavier than electrolyte
    types. They sure make me nauseous faster.)

  4. Sorni said:
    Quoted message said:

    Which nerd's turn is it to get out their calculator?

    Why don't you measure the dry ingredients that you mix in the water
    itself. That's the difference between H2O and a sports drink of the
    same volume.

    Use your noggin.

    Ah, but with displacement along with...dissolvement (?) (OK, absorption),
    it's not quite that simple.

    Actually, it IS quite that simple. The difference in a bottle filled
    with plain water and a bottle with energy powder disolved in it is
    going to be the weight of the powder in the scoop you threw in there.

    Are you saying you think you somehow created or destroyed mass while
    mixing up your drink? Hey! You may have discovered cold fusion!

  5. Tom_A said:
    Sorni said:
    Quoted message said:

    Which nerd's turn is it to get out their calculator?

    Why don't you measure the dry ingredients that you mix in the water
    itself. That's the difference between H2O and a sports drink of the
    same volume.

    Use your noggin.

    Ah, but with displacement along with...dissolvement (?) (OK,
    absorption), it's not quite that simple.

    Actually, it IS quite that simple. The difference in a bottle filled
    with plain water and a bottle with energy powder disolved in it is
    going to be the weight of the powder in the scoop you threw in there.

    Are you saying you think you somehow created or destroyed mass while
    mixing up your drink? Hey! You may have discovered cold fusion!

    Forgetting that you can get more water in a bottle without powder than with
    it...

    Eliminate powder then. How much heavier is a 16-ounce bottle of Gatorade
    than the same bottle filled with water?

    Is it really drastic enough to be obvious? (Like, hold one bottle in each
    hand and easily tell which is which?)

    SkeptiBill

  6. Sorni said:

    OK, I know I could go to a post office or something and actually weigh
    stuff, but where's the fun in that?

    On a recent ride I jokingly referred to my (all-carbon) bike as a boat
    anchor, and my friend lifted it up and said something like, "Wow, it IS
    heavy".

    So then I pulled off my full water bottle and he did the same with his, and
    I was shocked -- OK, quite surprised -- at how much heavier mine was than
    his.

    The only apparent difference (besides bottle brands) was that mine was
    filled with my proprietary Gatorade/Lemonade/Tang concoction, whereas his
    was just plain water. (Both bottles were the larger size -- his a clear
    Bontrager and mine a seemingly bit thicker plastic "team"-type bottle.)

    So my question is, how much heavier is a water bottle filled with energy
    drink than with plain H2O?

    I'm going for a ride in a bit. Please have your answers on my desk(top) by
    this afternoon...and of course, show your work.

    Just don't go to the post office for help.

    Bill S.


    Tempest in a teapot.The weight difference will be so small as to be
    nearly immeasurable, assuming both bottles are filled to the same capacity.

    EJ in NJ

  7. Ernie Willson said:
    Sorni said:

    OK, I know I could go to a post office or something and actually
    weigh stuff, but where's the fun in that?

    On a recent ride I jokingly referred to my (all-carbon) bike as a
    boat anchor, and my friend lifted it up and said something like,
    "Wow, it IS heavy".

    So then I pulled off my full water bottle and he did the same with
    his, and I was shocked -- OK, quite surprised -- at how much heavier
    mine was than his.

    The only apparent difference (besides bottle brands) was that mine
    was filled with my proprietary Gatorade/Lemonade/Tang concoction,
    whereas his was just plain water. (Both bottles were the larger
    size -- his a clear Bontrager and mine a seemingly bit thicker
    plastic "team"-type bottle.) So my question is, how much heavier is a
    water bottle filled with
    energy drink than with plain H2O?

    I'm going for a ride in a bit. Please have your answers on my
    desk(top) by this afternoon...and of course, show your work.

    Just don't go to the post office for help.

    Bill S.


    Tempest in a teapot.The weight difference will be so small as to be
    nearly immeasurable, assuming both bottles are filled to the same
    capacity.

    That's what I would think, too. So what explains the /really obvious/
    difference in the two bottles' weights? Maybe the actual TYPE of water
    bottle?

    No wonder I'm so slow! I'm dragging around LEAD-BASED WATER BOTTLE DEAD
    WEIGHTS on my bike!!!

    I feel a little better now 🙂

  8. Sorni said:

    Ernie Willson wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Tempest in a teapot.The weight difference will be so small as to be
    nearly immeasurable, assuming both bottles are filled to the same
    capacity.

    That's what I would think, too. So what explains the /really obvious/
    difference in the two bottles' weights? Maybe the actual TYPE of water
    bottle?

    No wonder I'm so slow! I'm dragging around LEAD-BASED WATER BOTTLE DEAD
    WEIGHTS on my bike!!!

    I feel a little better now 🙂

    It's the well known ability of cyclists with money to burn to
    tell the difference between immeasurably small weight
    differences. Even Joe Average cyclist can tell a 20 gram
    difference between two rear derailleurs by picking up
    the fully built bike before and after the ders are switched.
    For a dedicated bike geek, with the bottles off the bike
    and in hand, milligram differences are so obvious they
    are almost painful.

    Or maybe the bottles were actually different sizes, or
    filled to different levels.

  9. if the amount of unmixed dihydrogen oxide in each bottle is the same,
    then take the weight of the suggested amount of energy powder and
    subtract from this the difference in the weight between his thinner
    clear and your thicker opaque bottle and you'll have your answer.

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  10. If you've been drinking from a lead based water bottle then it's no
    wonder you can't figure this out. :-3)

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    "Your Friendly Neighborhood Wheelman"

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  11. Chris Z The Wheelman said:

    if the amount of unmixed dihydrogen oxide in each bottle is the same,
    then take the weight of the suggested amount of energy powder and
    subtract from this the difference in the weight between his thinner
    clear and your thicker opaque bottle and you'll have your answer.

    Sigh. Guess it's the Post Office! LOL

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