Energy drinks ?

Judith wrote

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- many of these drinks are gopping and make people feel sick.

Because they also contain salt. The problem with a lot of energy drinks
is that they're formulated with high energy sport in mind and are
therefore designed to give you a big hit, quickly, as well as reydrate.
To me a more walking oriented formulation would combine simple
sugars like fructose with something more starchy to give a delaying
effect to the delivery of the more complex sugars. How about blending
some pudding rice with some of your favourite fruits then thinnning it
with some cranberry juice and adding half a teaspoon of salt ?
I've never tried it but it might work.

Don't put it in your platty, though. You'll never get it clean it
afterwards.

Chris

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I am looking for a good way of replenishing my energy resources during
long, hard walks. Usually I stop regularly for water and have a fig
roll or garibaldi while I'm walking but I occasionally want to push
myself harder, or am walking with other (faster/fitter) people, and I

May reason I drink a Powerade or two after Munro Bagging is to Re-hydrate.
Not just water but all the other bits that are sweated out.

Nick

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I am looking for a good way of replenishing my energy resources during
long, hard walks. Usually I stop regularly for water and have a fig
roll or garibaldi while I'm walking but I occasionally want to push
myself harder, or am walking with other (faster/fitter) people, and I
do not want to stop so often. So I am thinking of putting some sort
of energy mix in my Platypus. I usually use a water bottle as I
prefer to plan in water and food stops.

First some info

Two big players in the field
http://www.scienceinsport.com/
http://www.highfive.co.uk/

A guide from High Five
http://www.coolrunning.com.au/sixfoot/docs/high5-nutrition-guide.pdf

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However, a bit of research has thrown up more questions than answers.

I have read that:

- some of the (cheaper?) mixes are overloaded with glucose which is
good for a short term boost but which does not help in the mid to long
term.

The big players make products for different applications. Some of them
are designed to give a short term boost as above and others (using more
complex carbs) give a longer term effect.

For instance in the SIS range Go gives short term boost and PSP22 gives
long term. I have found PSP22 very helpful in endurance running.

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- many of these drinks are gopping and make people feel sick.

You may be able to get a taster pack with a sachet of each of the
flavours as try them out for yourself. If not I have some different
flavours of PSP22 and Go available and could send you a small sample of
each (email me ds @ the rest of it is valid if you want).

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- they have a tendency to make Platypuses etc go mouldy. (Although I
presume that's only a problem if you don't wash them soon after use.)

I only ever use plain water in mine and I expect that you would have to
be very thorough indeed with cleaning to avoid mould build up. The bugs
love the carbs and will be slowly growing as you are on your walk. I
would rinse the tube with plain water as soon as you can after you have
used up the contents (perhaps in a stream) to slow the build up.

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- a good alternative to a commercial mix is to water down some pure
orange joice with 50% water. I presume it's best to use the OJ
without the bits in. Would Ribena be as good?

Some folks may swear by this but it all sounds a bit implausible to me.
Ribena would probable have too much sugar in it.

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Any thoughts on this? Is it all gimmicky?

Well it depends how important it is for you to maintain performance.
Unless you are putting in long days with a lot of effort I don't suppose
you will notice much difference.

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I walked up Scafell Pike,
from Seathwaite, last weekend with two friends (who are both fit and
male) and found that I wanted to drink more than a litre of water (but
that's all I had with me) and that my legs were shaking for the last
two miles.

Part of that may have been due to dehydration and part a lack of energy.
Sometimes I will carry some energy drink but also some water (usually
more water) because I find the water more pleasant to drink when I've
been working hard. You can also experiment with different strengths of
energy drink if you get powders.

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I also wondered if these energy drinks/mixes aided
recovery?

Possibly. Some manufacturers even do a product aimed at recovery - SIS
have one called Rego which I used once but I'm not sure how much it
helped.

I hope that helped but feel free to ask if there is anything else you
want to know.

--

Dominic Sexton

Someone had a recipe for energy drinks on uk.r.w last year....or was it the
year before?

Basically, if I remember, it's some juice, water, glucose and salt.

Jhimmy.

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wonderful person Phill <[email hidden]> said

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Glen Farclas

I think anything that causes you to stagger round in circles has to be
rated as rather counterproductive. Plus it'll probably dissolve the
platypus. 8>.

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"> - a good alternative to a commercial mix is to water down some pure

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orange joice with 50% water. I presume it's best to use the OJ
without the bits in. Would Ribena be as good?

Any thoughts on this? Is it all gimmicky?

This combination is very easily assimilated into the body, it appeared in
trail magazine a long time ago in an article by Dr Chris Fenn a sports
nutrionist. She also said to add a little salt into this. I have been
drinking this combination of water and orange for quite a while and have
found it very refreshing but it does not give a boost of energy as a lot of
the other sports drinks do. Ribena i have found to be best when mixed with
hot water ,very warming on a cold winter day.It does not compare with water
and orange in replacing body salts apparently, but may have more glucose for
energy.

Shaun Woodward

Judith said:

Any thoughts on this?

Thanks for all the comments, suggestions and things to read. I think
I may try some of the sports/energy bars (rather than the water bottle
mixes) and try a dilute orange juice mix in the Platypus.

I find that most pre-mixed drinks (like fruit squash or hot chocolate)
are far too strong for my tastes, and I'd hate to be up a hill
carrying 2 litres of something I couldn't bear to drink.

I like the idea of tinned rice pud, but I think I'll save that till I
get off the hill.

Judith

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Judith said:

I am looking for a good way of replenishing my energy resources

during

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long, hard walks.

Powerade works for me!

I'm a Lucozade (or cheap equivalent from Tesco or Aldi) freak.

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