endurance v sprint

"czb" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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i've been training for five months for endurance riding; putting
together 12-20 hours a week of riding. lots of long climbs getting
reading for shenandoah 100 and other long races with lots of climbing.

today, traveling in colorado from dc on business, i rented a bike and
entered a NORBA criterion in Boulder. it was 8 laps on a 1 mile
circuit. cyclocross kind of stuff. felt like a balls to the wall 25
minute ride. my lungs were seared the whole time.

what's the fitness issue here? it was like i was totally out of shape.
At aerobic max almost instantly. Could not get O2 for [censored]. Was it
altitude? Different kind of workout? Like to blame it on rented bike,
but can't do that.

What elevation where you riding at? and what elevation are you use to?

Sounds like elevation to me. I also need to drink more water when I am
riding in higher elevations.

i live and train in the washington dc area, so sea leavel. boulder is
i dunno 5-6000 feet. i would not have expected altitude to be that
bad. seriously i was gasping for anything.

"czb" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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i live and train in the washington dc area, so sea leavel. boulder is
i dunno 5-6000 feet. i would not have expected altitude to be that
bad. seriously i was gasping for anything.

I usually do not start to feel the effects of elevation until about 8,000ft.
I also live at sea level but do most of my rides in 4-8000 ft. No poison
oak, no ticks.

I went from 500ft rides to Alpine, at about 2500m (7500ishft) i started
to notice that I couldnt get my breath back at all, even sat off the
bike doing nothing. So i guess it affected me lower too, just i hadnt
noticed.

"Bill Sornson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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czb said:

i've been training for five months for endurance riding; putting
together 12-20 hours a week of riding. lots of long climbs getting
reading for shenandoah 100 and other long races with lots of climbing.

today, traveling in colorado from dc on business, i rented a bike and
entered a NORBA criterion in Boulder. it was 8 laps on a 1 mile
circuit. cyclocross kind of stuff. felt like a balls to the wall 25
minute ride. my lungs were seared the whole time.

what's the fitness issue here? it was like i was totally out of
shape. At aerobic max almost instantly. Could not get O2 for [censored].
Was it altitude? Different kind of workout? Like to blame it on
rented bike, but can't do that.

So you've been training for long, sustained effort ("endurance"😉 and then
entered a short, sprint-type event ("burst-y"😉; why are you surprised you
felt gassed?

Bill "don't see no Kenyans winning the 220" S.

You also need to know what type of athlete you are. Aerobic or anaerobic.
Train your weakness.

czb said:

i've been training for five months for endurance riding; putting
together 12-20 hours a week of riding. lots of long climbs getting
reading for shenandoah 100 and other long races with lots of climbing.

today, traveling in colorado from dc on business, i rented a bike and
entered a NORBA criterion in Boulder. it was 8 laps on a 1 mile
circuit. cyclocross kind of stuff. felt like a balls to the wall 25
minute ride. my lungs were seared the whole time.

what's the fitness issue here? it was like i was totally out of shape.
At aerobic max almost instantly. Could not get O2 for [censored]. Was it
altitude? Different kind of workout? Like to blame it on rented bike,
but can't do that.

An altitude change like that (sea level to 5000+ ft) will kill you until
you spend a few days adapting. By contrast, I live in SLC and recently
exercised at sea level, and could not get winded. 🙂 Now that I'm back,
I feel lethargic.

In addition, aerobic training will make you strong aerobically. You need
to add sprint intervals to your regimen, while also doing some
steady-state maintenance riding.

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