Time to say Tyler is finally emerging from Lance's shadow.
For Bobby, it's resurfection day.
Interesting that Gold, Silver and Bronze have all crossed paths with
the same team, with a change of sponsor allowed into account.
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[email hidden] (Richard Adams) wrote.com>...
Quoted message said:
Time to say Tyler is finally emerging from Lance's shadow.
For Bobby, it's resurfection day.
Interesting that Gold, Silver and Bronze have all crossed paths with
the same team, with a change of sponsor allowed into account."resurfection" -- come again???
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"Richard Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...Quoted message said:
Time to say Tyler is finally emerging from Lance's shadow.
For Bobby, it's resurfection day.
Interesting that Gold, Silver and Bronze have all crossed paths with
the same team, with a change of sponsor allowed into account.Huh? Which team? If you think USPS is the current iteration of what was the
Motorola team, you are wrong. The thing that the 3 have in common is they
each rode for Armstrong, but not on the same team. -
In article <[email hidden]>, Chris
Quoted message said:
"Richard Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...Quoted message said:
Time to say Tyler is finally emerging from Lance's shadow.
For Bobby, it's resurfection day.
Interesting that Gold, Silver and Bronze have all crossed paths with
the same team, with a change of sponsor allowed into account.Huh? Which team? If you think USPS is the current iteration of what was the
Motorola team, you are wrong.Wasn't Motorola also owned and managed by Tailwind Sports? Before
Motorola it was Subaru-Montgomery. So, it is essentially the same team
with different title sponsors.-WG
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On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 23:29:58 GMT, warren <[email hidden]>
Quoted message said:
Wasn't Motorola also owned and managed by Tailwind Sports? Before
Motorola it was Subaru-Montgomery. So, it is essentially the same team
with different title sponsors.No. Suburu-Montgomery (or some other version of the team) overlapped
with the existence of Motorola -- they were competitors.When Motorola folded some riders and staff went to Postal and some to
other teams. But they were not the same team.JT
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On 08/18/2004 11:45 AM, in article
[email hidden], "Richard Adams"Quoted message said:
Time to say Tyler is finally emerging from Lance's shadow.
For Bobby, it's resurfection day.
Interesting that Gold, Silver and Bronze have all crossed paths with
the same team, with a change of sponsor allowed into account.Bobby Julich was never part of USPS, Subaru-Montgomery, or Montgomery-Bell.
Viatcheslav Ekimov was never part of Motorola or CSC (or previous
incarnations).Tyler Hamilton was never part of Motorola.
--
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On 08/18/2004 05:29 PM, in article [email hidden],
warren said:
In article <[email hidden]>, Chris
Quoted message said:
"Richard Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...Quoted message said:
Time to say Tyler is finally emerging from Lance's shadow.
For Bobby, it's resurfection day.
Interesting that Gold, Silver and Bronze have all crossed paths with
the same team, with a change of sponsor allowed into account.Huh? Which team? If you think USPS is the current iteration of what was the
Motorola team, you are wrong.Wasn't Motorola also owned and managed by Tailwind Sports? Before
Motorola it was Subaru-Montgomery. So, it is essentially the same team
with different title sponsors.Nope ... Motorola grew out of the 7-Eleven team.
In fact Team Motorola existed at the same time as Subaru-Montgomery,
Montgomery-Bell, and the very first year of USPS.--
Steven L. Sheffield
stevens at veloworks dot com
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ess ay ell tea ell ay kay ee sea eye tee why you ti ay aitch
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In article <[email hidden]>, Steven L. Sheffield
Quoted message said:
In fact Team Motorola existed at the same time as Subaru-Montgomery,
Montgomery-Bell, and the very first year of USPS.Who was on Motorola during the first year of USPS, and who was on that
USPS team?-WG
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On 08/18/2004 08:45 PM, in article [email hidden],
warren said:
In article <[email hidden]>, Steven L. Sheffield
Quoted message said:
In fact Team Motorola existed at the same time as Subaru-Montgomery,
Montgomery-Bell, and the very first year of USPS.Who was on Motorola during the first year of USPS, and who was on that
USPS team?MOTOROLA
UCI: 7 (2748 pts)
name nat. team'95 pts rank born
---- --- ------- ---- ---- ----
Lance Armstrong USA MOT 836.60 15 18/09/71
Maximilian Sciandri Eng MAG 709.12 20 15/02/67
Jesus Montoya Alarcon Spa BAN 391.00 59 04/12/63
Laurent Madouas Fra CAS 353.40 68 08/02/67
Andrea Peron Ita MOT 338.64 72 14/08/71
Flavio Vanzella Ita MAG 264.20 95 04/03/64
Sean Yates Eng MOT 217.40 118 18/05/60
George Hincapie USA MOT 190.40 131 29/06/73
Franky Andreu USA MOT 173.08 145 26/09/66
Max van Heeswijk Ned MOT 147.00 161 02/03/73
Axel Merckx Bel MOT 135.60 172 18/08/72
Bruno Thibout Fra CAS 94.96 232 08/05/69
Kaspars Ozers Let MOT 48.20 346 15/09/68
Bobby Julich USA MOT 35.40 398 18/11/71
Gordon Fraser Can MOT 25.00 455 19/11/68
Kevin Livingston USA MOT 0.00 - 24/05/73US POSTAL SERVICE/MONTGOMERY BELL
UCI: 32 (296 pts)
name nat. team'95 pts rank born
---- --- ------- ---- ---- ----
Andrew Hampsten USA BAN 98.40 224 07/04/62
Sven Teutenberg Ger NOE 96.00 229 18/06/72
Darren Baker USA MNT 41.00 371 13/06/67
Clark Sheehan USA MNT 40.00 376 07/04/69
Mike Engleman USA SHA 31.20 422 20/05/58
Marty Jemison USA MNT 22.20 470 18/05/65
Nate Reiss USA MNT 21.80 472 07/10/63
Tyler Hamilton USA MNT 14.00 539 01/03/71
Dariusz Baranowski POL - 0.00 - 22/06/72
Tomasz Brozyna Pol ROA 0.00 - 19/09/70
Chad Gerlach USA MNT 0.00 - 13/07/73
Eddy Gragus USA MNT 0.00 - 15/02/68
Remigius Lupeikis Lit BOA 0.00 - 22/09/64
Anton Villatoro GUA - 0.00 - 10/06/70--
Steven L. Sheffield
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warren said:
Who was on Motorola during the first year of USPS, and who was on that
USPS team?From http://www.cyclingnews.com/results/archives/teams3.html
The year is 1996.
MOTOROLA
UCI: 7 (2748 pts)
name nat. team'95 pts rank born
---- --- ------- ---- ---- ----
Lance Armstrong USA MOT 836.60 15 18/09/71
Maximilian Sciandri Eng MAG 709.12 20 15/02/67
Jesus Montoya Alarcon Spa BAN 391.00 59 04/12/63
Laurent Madouas Fra CAS 353.40 68 08/02/67
Andrea Peron Ita MOT 338.64 72 14/08/71
Flavio Vanzella Ita MAG 264.20 95 04/03/64
Sean Yates Eng MOT 217.40 118 18/05/60
George Hincapie USA MOT 190.40 131 29/06/73
Franky Andreu USA MOT 173.08 145 26/09/66
Max van Heeswijk Ned MOT 147.00 161 02/03/73
Axel Merckx Bel MOT 135.60 172 18/08/72
Bruno Thibout Fra CAS 94.96 232 08/05/69
Kaspars Ozers Let MOT 48.20 346 15/09/68
Bobby Julich USA MOT 35.40 398 18/11/71
Gordon Fraser Can MOT 25.00 455 19/11/68
Kevin Livingston USA MOT 0.00 - 24/05/73US POSTAL SERVICE/MONTGOMERY BELL
UCI: 32 (296 pts)
name nat. team'95 pts rank born
---- --- ------- ---- ---- ----
Andrew Hampsten USA BAN 98.40 224 07/04/62
Sven Teutenberg Ger NOE 96.00 229 18/06/72
Darren Baker USA MNT 41.00 371 13/06/67
Clark Sheehan USA MNT 40.00 376 07/04/69
Mike Engleman USA SHA 31.20 422 20/05/58
Marty Jemison USA MNT 22.20 470 18/05/65
Nate Reiss USA MNT 21.80 472 07/10/63
Tyler Hamilton USA MNT 14.00 539 01/03/71
Dariusz Baranowski POL - 0.00 - 22/06/72
Tomasz Brozyna Pol ROA 0.00 - 19/09/70
Chad Gerlach USA MNT 0.00 - 13/07/73
Eddy Gragus USA MNT 0.00 - 15/02/68
Remigius Lupeikis Lit BOA 0.00 - 22/09/64
Anton Villatoro GUA - 0.00 - 10/06/70 -
(K. J. Papai) said:
(Richard Adams) said:
Time to say Tyler is finally emerging from Lance's shadow.
For Bobby, it's resurfection day.
Interesting that Gold, Silver and Bronze have all crossed paths with
the same team, with a change of sponsor allowed into account."resurfection" -- come again???
Resurfection, it's the latest hot new Euro based training program. All
the top Norcal masters are doing it - throw out the SRM, that was _so_
early season. It's kind of like Rolfing but you have to go to this
Italian doctor as well ...-Ben
p.s. resurfacing + resurrection
p.p.s. Hey Crit Pro, how ya like Bobby now?
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In article <[email hidden]>, Benjamin
Weiner said:
(K. J. Papai) said:
(Richard Adams) said:
Time to say Tyler is finally emerging from Lance's shadow.
For Bobby, it's resurfection day.
Interesting that Gold, Silver and Bronze have all crossed paths with
the same team, with a change of sponsor allowed into account."resurfection" -- come again???
Resurfection, it's the latest hot new Euro based training program. All
the top Norcal masters are doing it - throw out the SRM, that was _so_
early season. It's kind of like Rolfing but you have to go to this
Italian doctor as well ...It's not just for Masters. Olympians like it too.
-WG
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K. J. Papai said:
Quoted message said:
"resurfection" -- come again???
Benjamin Weiner said:
Resurfection, it's the latest hot new Euro based training program. All
the top Norcal masters are doing it - throw out the SRM, that was _so_
early season. It's kind of like Rolfing but you have to go to this
Italian doctor as well ...Surely resurfection also involves surfing and playing beach boyz music
while riding your rollers for cross training. -
[email hidden] (Benjamin Weiner) wrote.com>...
Quoted message said:
.com (K. J. Papai) said:
(Richard Adams) said:
Time to say Tyler is finally emerging from Lance's shadow.
For Bobby, it's resurfection day.
Interesting that Gold, Silver and Bronze have all crossed paths with
the same team, with a change of sponsor allowed into account."resurfection" -- come again???
Resurfection, it's the latest hot new Euro based training program. All
the top Norcal masters are doing it - throw out the SRM, that was _so_
early season. It's kind of like Rolfing but you have to go to this
Italian doctor as well ...No wonder I suck!
All my training (well... 90%) consists of my bike commute and the
intervals I throw in there. I'll show up to Giro SF and hang in there
until the bell lap and then finish 47th (probably watching Warren grab
the gold).-kjp
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In article <[email hidden]>, K. J.
Papai said:
[email hidden] (Benjamin Weiner) wrote.com>...
Quoted message said:
.com (K. J. Papai) said:
[email hidden] (Richard Adams) wrote:
> Time to say Tyler is finally emerging from Lance's shadow.
>
> For Bobby, it's resurfection day.
>
> Interesting that Gold, Silver and Bronze have all crossed paths with
> the same team, with a change of sponsor allowed into account."resurfection" -- come again???
Resurfection, it's the latest hot new Euro based training program. All
the top Norcal masters are doing it - throw out the SRM, that was _so_
early season. It's kind of like Rolfing but you have to go to this
Italian doctor as well ...No wonder I suck!
All my training (well... 90%) consists of my bike commute and the
intervals I throw in there.Add in some rudimentary Italian (unless you're already fluent) with
plenty of odd intervals and you'll be forza!Quoted message said:
I'll show up to Giro SF and hang in there
until the bell lap and then finish 47th (probably watching Warren grab
the gold).Ah, I will be taking it easy at the Giro in preparation for some big
races a week later in Manchester, UK. But we will have a beer or two.-WG
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In article <[email hidden]>, Donald Munro
Quoted message said:
K. J. Papai said:
Quoted message said:
"resurfection" -- come again???
Benjamin Weiner said:
Resurfection, it's the latest hot new Euro based training program. All
the top Norcal masters are doing it - throw out the SRM, that was _so_
early season. It's kind of like Rolfing but you have to go to this
Italian doctor as well ...Surely resurfection also involves surfing and playing beach boyz music
while riding your rollers for cross training.No habla "rollers". Not enough resistance for good training. The
surfing in NorCal is done on snow.-WG
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