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  1. This question is prompted by the other thread about not have
    egg 'spots' in a fridge. It occured to me that I never
    refrigerate eggs (I live in a temperate climate - ie,
    Ireland, and my eggs come from my own hens). Can't say I've
    ever (even before I 'grew' my own) had an egg that went off,
    and I'm sure I've read somewhere (no idea where, however)
    that it isn't necessary to refrigerate eggs. Is this right,
    or do those of you who live in places somewhat warmer than
    this have experiences that suggest eggs should always be
    refrigerated?

    Thinking about it, the grocery stores here don't always
    refrigerate their eggs, either - supermarkets usually do,
    smaller stores usually don't. Are we at risk? 😉

    Jo

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    || Thinking about it, the grocery stores here don't always
    || refrigerate their eggs, either - supermarkets usually
    || do, smaller stores usually don't. Are we at risk? 😉
    ||
    I have never seen eggs refrigerated in a supermarket over
    here, but all stores are usually air conditioned, except the
    odd small fruit shop.

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  3. Darkginger said:

    Thinking about it, the grocery stores here don't always
    refrigerate their eggs, either - supermarkets usually do,
    smaller stores usually don't. Are we at risk? 😉

    Many of the grocery stores here in the US in the 80's didn't
    refrigerate their eggs. Now they all do.

    -sw

  4. I always keep freshly laid eggs in the fridge (+2 C) as they
    are sold on a weekly basis. Dangerous strains of Salmonella
    and E.Coli are right in the laying birds germplasm. On one
    occasion, an eggs was undiscovered for a length of time at
    the side of a nest box. When cracked open, it was rancid and
    revolting. I also scrape the [censored]/chicken exhaust off them
    before they go into the fridge. Right now in Eastern Ontario
    the temperature during the day is 20-25 C. During the winter
    when the temp can get down to -40 C, the eggs are collected
    regularly to avoid freezing. In Canada, the egg marketing
    monopoly/rip-off insists all eggs be kept cool. My eggs are
    super this time of year as the biddies are outside eating
    bugs worms and greens. In my opinion, eggs should be kept
    refrigerated at all times.

    Farmer John

    "Darkginger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    This question is prompted by the other thread about not
    have egg 'spots'


    in

    Quoted message said:

    a fridge. It occured to me that I never refrigerate eggs
    (I live in a temperate climate - ie, Ireland, and my eggs
    come from my own hens). Can't say I've ever (even before I
    'grew' my own) had an egg that went off, and I'm sure I've
    read somewhere (no idea where, however) that it isn't
    necessary to refrigerate eggs. Is this right, or do those
    of you who live


    in

    Quoted message said:

    places somewhat warmer than this have experiences that
    suggest eggs should always be refrigerated?

    Thinking about it, the grocery stores here don't always
    refrigerate their eggs, either - supermarkets usually do,
    smaller stores usually don't. Are


    we

    Quoted message said:

    at risk? 😉

    Jo

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  5. "Darkginger" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Quoted message said:

    This question is prompted by the other thread about not
    have egg 'spots' in a fridge. It occured to me that I
    never refrigerate eggs (I live in a temperate climate -
    ie, Ireland, and my eggs come from my own hens). Can't say
    I've ever (even before I 'grew' my own) had an egg that
    went off, and I'm sure I've read somewhere (no idea where,
    however) that it isn't necessary to refrigerate eggs. Is
    this right, or do those of you who live in places somewhat
    warmer than this have experiences that suggest eggs should
    always be refrigerated?

    Thinking about it, the grocery stores here don't always
    refrigerate their eggs, either - supermarkets usually do,
    smaller stores usually don't. Are we at risk? 😉

    Eggs are not refrigerated in stores here, but as mentioned
    by august, the stores are usually air conditioned and fairly
    cool. I keep my eggs refrigerated at home, and think that's
    fairly common. They probably don't need refrigeration if you
    have a constantly cool place to keep them. It doesn't work
    for me, though. I did try it some years back - I'd bought a
    decorative iron work egg basket thingy, and tried keeping my
    eggs out on the bench. Had an egg go off, though - not
    pleasant. It gets pretty hot here in summer, and the kitchen
    can get very warm - just not the right climate for keeping
    eggs out on the bench. Couldn't keep butter out either, or
    cheese. In cooler parts of the country, and perhaps with
    very old homes with thick stone or brick walls, it would be
    more feasible. I suppose cellars come in handy for this sort
    of thing, but they're not very common here - I've never been
    in a home with a cellar/basement.

    Rhonda Anderson Cranebrook, NSW, Australia

  6. Darkginger said:


    This question is prompted by the other thread about not
    have egg 'spots' in a fridge. It occured to me that I
    never refrigerate eggs (I live in a temperate climate -
    ie, Ireland, and my eggs come from my own hens). Can't say
    I've ever (even before I 'grew' my own) had an egg that
    went off, and I'm sure I've read somewhere (no idea where,
    however) that it isn't necessary to refrigerate eggs. Is
    this right, or do those of you who live in places somewhat
    warmer than this have experiences that suggest eggs should
    always be refrigerated?

    Thinking about it, the grocery stores here don't always
    refrigerate their eggs, either - supermarkets usually do,
    smaller stores usually don't. Are we at risk? 😉

    Jo

    ---

    I expect your eggs are a lot more recently removed from the
    hen than the ones we get from the supermarkets.

    gloria p

  7. "Darkginger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    This question is prompted by the other thread about not
    have egg 'spots'


    in

    Quoted message said:

    a fridge. It occured to me that I never refrigerate eggs
    (I live in a temperate climate - ie, Ireland, and my
    eggs come from my own hens).


    Can't

    Quoted message said:

    say I've ever (even before I 'grew' my own) had an egg
    that went off,


    and

    Quoted message said:

    I'm sure I've read somewhere (no idea where, however)
    that it isn't necessary to refrigerate eggs. Is this
    right, or do those of you who


    live in

    Quoted message said:

    places somewhat warmer than this have experiences that
    suggest eggs


    should

    Quoted message said:

    always be refrigerated?

    I grew up in tropical Africa and the eggs always used to
    stand on top of the fridge. I never remember having a bad
    egg, or hearing of anyone who did, and ditto with
    salmonella.

    I think it suffices to keep them somewhere coolish, out of
    direct sun.

    Quoted message said:

    Thinking about it, the grocery stores here don't always
    refrigerate


    their

    Quoted message said:

    eggs, either - supermarkets usually do, smaller stores
    usually don't.


    Are we

    Quoted message said:

    at risk? 😉

    Supermarkets here (South Africa) don't. Eggs out on shelf
    with sugar, and so forth.

  8. Quoted message said:

    This question is prompted by the other thread about not
    have egg 'spots'


    in

    Quoted message said:

    a fridge. It occured to me that I never refrigerate eggs
    (I live in a temperate climate - ie, Ireland, and my eggs
    come from my own hens). Can't say I've ever (even before I
    'grew' my own) had an egg that went off, and I'm sure I've
    read somewhere (no idea where, however) that it isn't
    necessary to refrigerate eggs. Is this right, or do those
    of you who live


    in

    Quoted message said:

    places somewhat warmer than this have experiences that
    suggest eggs should always be refrigerated?

    Thinking about it, the grocery stores here don't always
    refrigerate their eggs, either - supermarkets usually do,
    smaller stores usually don't. Are


    we

    Quoted message said:

    at risk? 😉

    This is actually an interesting thread. 🙂

    I can't say as I've ever seen eggs NOT refrigerated here in
    the US. In fact, the ones in the supermarket are commonly
    frozen for a period before they reach the shelves.

    There's a website out there with interesting egg
    facts...found it. It's called the American Egg Board (don't
    pummel me -- I just find the sites). They're at
    aeb.orgaeb.org and like I said -- some really
    interesting information on their site.

    James

  9. Just stopped in this group!!! Hello from Fargo, North
    Dakota!!! I would never attempt to eat an egg that is not
    refrigerated!!! Sorry to say, I have years ago, but they
    were fresh, that day on the farm!!! ~~~ken~~~

  10. On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 11:11:36 +0100, "Darkginger" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    This question is prompted by the other thread about not
    have egg 'spots' in a fridge. It occured to me that I never
    refrigerate eggs (I live in a temperate climate - ie,
    Ireland, and my eggs come from my own hens). Can't say I've
    ever (even before I 'grew' my own) had an egg that went
    off, and I'm sure I've read somewhere (no idea where,
    however) that it isn't necessary to refrigerate eggs. Is
    this right, or do those of you who live in places somewhat
    warmer than this have experiences that suggest eggs should
    always be refrigerated?

    *Every year, people get ill from salmonella. Generally
    speaking, salmonella is not a huge problem for healthy adult
    individuals, but young children and the elderly don't have
    the robust defenses to fight off a little salmonella. It is
    possible to die from salmonella.

    From www.mmhs.com/clinical/adult/english/infectious/salmone-
    l.htm: "Salmonella infections are diarrheal infections
    caused by the bacteria Salmonella. The Salmonella germ is
    actually a group of bacteria that can cause diarrheal
    illness in humans. There are many different kinds of
    Salmonella bacteria.

    Salmonella are usually transmitted to humans by eating foods
    contaminated with animal feces. Contaminated foods are often
    animal in origin, such as beef, poultry, milk, or eggs.
    However, all foods, including vegetables, can become
    contaminated."

    One of the "problems" with eggs is how close they are to the
    chicken's bum and feces. So, if you have an infected flock,
    the surface of the eggs may have salmonella on them. If the
    eggs are poorly handled (get cracked a little, not kept
    refrigerated, not rinsed off before use, or used raw in
    products that sit out on a table for a period of time) the
    bacteria can grow. When you eat a food that has living
    bacteria in it, then you can become infected.

    One of the reasons for the precautions is the mass-produced
    nature of our egg and chicken markets means that there's a
    certain amount of disease in our flocks that, in general,
    aren't found/tolerated (depending on what side of the "food
    industry cleanliness argument you're on) in European and
    small, private flocks.

    So in the US, all eggs get treated like they're tainted,
    though from what I've heard from sources I generally
    consider relatively reliable, the risk of having a tainted
    egg is very small. It's just a risk that companies aren't
    willing to take because if they did, and someone got sick,
    they'd be sued.

    * From the CDC fact sheet about Salmonellosis:

    Every year, approximately 40,000 cases of salmonellosis are
    reported in the United States. Because many milder cases are
    not diagnosed or reported, the actual number of infections
    may be thirty or more times greater. Salmonellosis is more
    common in the summer than winter. Children are the most
    likely to get salmonellosis. Young children, the elderly,
    and the immunocompromised are the most likely to have severe
    infections. It is estimated that approximately 600 persons
    die each year with acute salmonellosis.

    --
    Siobhan Perricone "This isn't right. This isn't even wrong."
    - Wolfgang Pauli, on a paper submitted by a physicist
    colleague

  11. I refrigerate mine as well and do more than just scrape the
    [censored] off. ;-) When my eggs come in, they are soaked for a
    bit in some soapy warm water with a bit of bleach to
    disinfect and clean the shells before being scrubbed and
    rinsed and put away.

    The ones for my personal use are stored in a small basket in
    the 'frige.

    Cracked/damaged eggs are thrown back into the chicken yard
    right away for the hens to eat.

    K.

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Fudge said:

    I always keep freshly laid eggs in the fridge (+2 C) as
    they are sold on a weekly basis. Dangerous strains of
    Salmonella and E.Coli are right in the laying birds
    germplasm. On one occasion, an eggs was undiscovered
    for a length of time at the side of a nest box. When
    cracked open, it was rancid and revolting. I also
    scrape the [censored]/chicken exhaust off them before they go
    into the fridge. Right now in Eastern Ontario the
    temperature during the day is 20-25 C. During the
    winter when the temp can get down to -40 C, the eggs
    are collected regularly to avoid freezing. In Canada,
    the egg marketing monopoly/rip-off insists all eggs be
    kept cool. My eggs are super this time of year as the
    biddies are outside eating bugs worms and greens. In my
    opinion, eggs should be kept refrigerated at all times.

    Farmer John

    "Darkginger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    This question is prompted by the other thread about not
    have egg 'spots'


    in

    Quoted message said:

    a fridge. It occured to me that I never refrigerate eggs
    (I live in a temperate climate - ie, Ireland, and my
    eggs come from my own hens). Can't say I've ever (even
    before I 'grew' my own) had an egg that went off, and
    I'm sure I've read somewhere (no idea where, however)
    that it isn't necessary to refrigerate eggs. Is this
    right, or do those of you who live


    in

    Quoted message said:

    places somewhat warmer than this have experiences that
    suggest eggs should always be refrigerated?

    Thinking about it, the grocery stores here don't always
    refrigerate their eggs, either - supermarkets usually
    do, smaller stores usually don't. Are


    we

    Quoted message said:

    at risk? 😉

    Jo

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  12. "Michael Rolfe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    "Darkginger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    This question is prompted by the other thread about
    not have egg 'spots'


    in

    Quoted message said:

    a fridge. It occured to me that I never refrigerate
    eggs (I live in a temperate climate - ie, Ireland, and
    my eggs come from my own hens).


    Can't

    Quoted message said:

    say I've ever (even before I 'grew' my own) had an egg
    that went off,


    and

    Quoted message said:

    I'm sure I've read somewhere (no idea where, however)
    that it isn't necessary to refrigerate eggs. Is this
    right, or do those of you who


    live in

    Quoted message said:

    places somewhat warmer than this have experiences that
    suggest eggs


    should

    Quoted message said:

    always be refrigerated?

    I grew up in tropical Africa and the eggs always used to
    stand on top of the fridge. I never remember having a
    bad egg, or hearing of anyone who did, and ditto with
    salmonella.

    I think it suffices to keep them somewhere coolish, out
    of direct sun.

    Quoted message said:

    Thinking about it, the grocery stores here don't
    always refrigerate


    their

    Quoted message said:

    eggs, either - supermarkets usually do, smaller stores
    usually don't.


    Are we

    Quoted message said:

    at risk? 😉

    Supermarkets here (South Africa) don't. Eggs out on
    shelf with sugar, and so forth.

    Eggs are out on the shelf here in Honduras. The two grocery
    stores I shop at (where I buy my eggs) keep them over in
    the section of the store with the dairy and meat. It is the
    cooler area of thje store. They have egg deliveries every
    other day from their suppliers. I keep them in the fridge
    at home simply because it is the most convenient place to
    keep them.

    We've never been sick from food poisoning due to the eggs.
    The only cases of food poisoning suffered by family members
    occured as a result of eating food (not eggs)that was not
    held at proper temperatures for hot food.

    Sandi

  13. JNJ said:
    Quoted message said:

    This question is prompted by the other thread about not
    have egg 'spots' in a fridge. It occured to me that I
    never refrigerate eggs (I live in a temperate climate -
    ie, Ireland, and my eggs come from my own hens). Can't
    say I've ever (even before I 'grew' my own) had an egg
    that went off, and I'm sure I've read somewhere (no idea
    where, however) that it isn't necessary to refrigerate
    eggs. Is this right, or do those of you who live in
    places somewhat warmer than this have experiences that
    suggest eggs should always be refrigerated?
    =20
    Thinking about it, the grocery stores here don't always
    refrigerate their eggs, either - supermarkets usually do,
    smaller stores usually don't. Are we at risk? 😉


    =20
    This is actually an interesting thread. 🙂
    =20
    I can't say as I've ever seen eggs NOT refrigerated here
    in the US.

    Get out of the urban areas. Hit the farmers' markets.

    Quoted message said:

    In fact, the ones in the supermarket are commonly frozen
    for a period before they reach the shelves.

    No. They aren't. Freezing eggs changes their internal
    appearance and activity. The cook differently and function
    differently in sauces and emulsions like mayo.

    Eggs are typically gathered, cleaned, sometimes oiled, and
    held in coolers around 45=B0F until shipment and retail
    sale, all of which is supposed to be at those temps. Eggs
    used for commercial applications are sometimes frozen after
    being removed from their shells and=20 pasteurized. It's
    done for handling and shipping ease, but whole eggs=20
    aren't frozen.

    Pastorio

    Quoted message said:

    There's a website out there with interesting egg
    facts...found it. It's called the American Egg Board
    (don't pummel me -- I just find the sites). They're at
    aeb.orgaeb.org and like I said -- some really
    interesting information on their site.
    =20
    James

  14. august said:

    [email hidden] :

    Quoted message said:

    || Thinking about it, the grocery stores here don't
    || always refrigerate their eggs, either - supermarkets
    || usually do, smaller stores usually don't. Are we at
    || risk? 😉
    ||
    I have never seen eggs refrigerated in a supermarket over
    here, but all stores are usually air conditioned, except
    the odd small fruit shop.

    You don't say where "over here" is, but in the Philadelphia
    and South Jersey area, the only stores I ever see eggs not
    refrigerated is in farmer's markets. All the retail stores
    such as grocery stores keep their eggs refrigerated.

  15. "Katra" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Cracked/damaged eggs are thrown back into the chicken
    yard right away for the hens to eat.

    Uh-oh. Should we brace ourselves for a Mad Hen Disease
    thread? ;-)

  16. Katra a écrit :

    Quoted message said:

    I refrigerate mine as well and do more than just scrape
    the [censored] off. ;-) When my eggs come in, they are soaked
    for a bit in some soapy warm water with a bit of bleach to
    disinfect and clean the shells before being scrubbed and
    rinsed and put away.

    Which is a bad idea. When you wash an egg, you make the
    shell porous. An unwashed egg is protected for the first 2
    weeks by its shell (yes, even from salmonella lying *on* the
    shell). After 2 weeks, the shell becomes porous anyway.

    Nathalie in Switzerland

  17. Michael Rolfe said:

    Uh-oh. Should we brace ourselves for a Mad Hen Disease
    thread? ;-)

    must..... eat...... brains......

    nb

  18. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Michael Rolfe said:

    "Katra" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:KatraMungBean-
    [email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Cracked/damaged eggs are thrown back into the chicken
    yard right away for the hens to eat.

    Uh-oh. Should we brace ourselves for a Mad Hen Disease
    thread? ;-)

    <lol> I don't think so..... ;-D

    K.

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  19. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Nathalie Chiva said:

    Katra a écrit :

    Quoted message said:

    I refrigerate mine as well and do more than just scrape
    the [censored] off. ;-) When my eggs come in, they are soaked
    for a bit in some soapy warm water with a bit of bleach
    to disinfect and clean the shells before being scrubbed
    and rinsed and put away.

    Which is a bad idea. When you wash an egg, you make the
    shell porous. An unwashed egg is protected for the
    first 2 weeks by its shell (yes, even from salmonella
    lying *on* the shell). After 2 weeks, the shell becomes
    porous anyway.

    Nathalie in Switzerland

    So I should leave the [censored] on the shells in my nice clean
    egg cartons???

    Ok, whatever. <G>

    We've been getting a lot of rain. The hens feet are muddy,
    the eggshells have been anything but clean lately.

    I can't quite bring myself to break open an egg and let
    the eggwhite and yolk slide out over a [censored] and mud
    covered shell.

    I don't think so......

    There is a time to compromise the usual practices!

    K.

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  20. Katra a écrit :

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Nathalie Chiva

    Quoted message said:

    Katra a écrit :

    Quoted message said:

    I refrigerate mine as well and do more than just
    scrape the [censored] off. ;-) When my eggs come in, they
    are soaked for a bit in some soapy warm water with a
    bit of bleach to disinfect and clean the shells before
    being scrubbed and rinsed and put away.

    Which is a bad idea. When you wash an egg, you make the
    shell porous. An unwashed egg is protected for the first
    2 weeks by its shell (yes, even from salmonella lying
    *on* the shell). After 2 weeks, the shell becomes porous
    anyway.

    Nathalie in Switzerland

    So I should leave the [censored] on the shells in my nice clean
    egg cartons???

    Ok, whatever. <G>

    We've been getting a lot of rain. The hens feet are muddy,
    the eggshells have been anything but clean lately.

    I can't quite bring myself to break open an egg and let
    the eggwhite and yolk slide out over a [censored] and mud
    covered shell.

    I don't think so......

    There is a time to compromise the usual practices!

    I didn't say not to scrape the [censored] and mud... just not to
    *wash* them ;-)

    Nathalie in Switzerland

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