Egg Allergy

kilikini said:

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JoeSpareBedroom said:

"Cindi - HappyMamatoThree" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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> All I can say about the doctor thing is it is far cheaper and
> safer to find a doctor than to have to go to the ER or worse the
> morgue.
>
> Cindi

Everyone knows finding a doctor is almost impossible. It might
involve asking friends and coworkers if they have a doctor they
like a lot. Very difficult. Then, after meeting the doctor, you
have to decide if you like the person. Now, you're asking a lot.

Plus the doctor has to either accept your insurance plan or be
willing to take your money out of pocket... oh my god, what are the
chances of THAT happening?

The only 4 doctors in my plan refused to treat me because of my rare
condition, so I have insurance and no doctor. They say I'm a
high-risk patient. So, even if you're entitled to medical care, that
doesn't mean you're going to get it.

kili

Yeah, except you did find it. You're very lucky 🙂

Hugz,
Jill <---not "entitled"

jmcquown said:

Pennyaline said:

JoeSpareBedroom said:

"Cindi - HappyMamatoThree" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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> All I can say about the doctor thing is it is far cheaper and safer
> to find a doctor than to have to go to the ER or worse the morgue.

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> Cindi

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Everyone knows finding a doctor is almost impossible. It might
involve asking friends and coworkers if they have a doctor they like
a lot. Very difficult. Then, after meeting the doctor, you have to
decide if you like the person. Now, you're asking a lot.

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Plus the doctor has to either accept your insurance plan or be willing
to take your money out of pocket... oh my god, what are the chances of
THAT happening?

My doctor (whom I've known since before he was one) works in a practice with
other doctors. If it were up to him, which it's not, he'd treat me for
basic stuff like a sinus infection or an ear infection (since I know when I
have one, dammit!) for a very nominal fee.

Tests, like allergy tests, are a different story. Unless the office has a
rather extensive lab they have to send that stuff out and they can't not
charge you for them. But this group *does* take cash. $125 for an office
visit (might be higher now, I haven't gone in a couple of years).

Still, if I thought I was allergic to something which, after only injesting
a small amount, made it feel like someone was sitting on my chest or my
esophagus was closing up and made me completely nauseous for most of the
day, I'd find some way to go. ebrian is gambling his health for what? A
few eggs? There could be pills available for the allergy, or shots, not the
last minute "oh [censored]!" epi-pen thing.

Jill

You make a great point Jill. I think I'll take your advice and go
have it checked out. Maybe part of it is laziness too, but yea, I
need to go have it checked out, and at least confirmed. As I've
mentioned hard-boiled eggs seem to be fine for me as well, another
reason to have it checked and confirmed.

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On Jun 13, 3:38 pm, "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote:

You make a great point Jill. I think I'll take your advice and go
have it checked out. Maybe part of it is laziness too, but yea, I
need to go have it checked out, and at least confirmed. As I've
mentioned hard-boiled eggs seem to be fine for me as well, another
reason to have it checked and confirmed.

I've never been checked out and I've been like this for about 20 years. It
never occured to me that it could be a food allergy, to be honest; I figured
I was built that way. LOL. I just avoid foods like eggs that have proven
to give me these uncomfortable symptoms. Other things that do this to me
and I try to avoid are: garlic, most fried foods (unless I fry them myself),
peanuts, bananas, and smoked meats or cured meats like salami or summer
sausage. How interesting that it could be something as simple as an
allergy!

kili <------- slapping her head for being such an idiot this whole time!

ebrian said:

jmcquown said:

Pennyaline said:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> "Cindi - HappyMamatoThree" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Quoted message said:

>> All I can say about the doctor thing is it is far cheaper and
>> safer to find a doctor than to have to go to the ER or worse the
>> morgue.

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>> Cindi

Quoted message said:

> Everyone knows finding a doctor is almost impossible. It might
> involve asking friends and coworkers if they have a doctor they
> like a lot. Very difficult. Then, after meeting the doctor, you
> have to decide if you like the person. Now, you're asking a lot.

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Plus the doctor has to either accept your insurance plan or be
willing to take your money out of pocket... oh my god, what are the
chances of THAT happening?

My doctor (whom I've known since before he was one) works in a
practice with other doctors. If it were up to him, which it's not,
he'd treat me for basic stuff like a sinus infection or an ear
infection (since I know when I have one, dammit!) for a very nominal
fee.

Tests, like allergy tests, are a different story. Unless the office
has a rather extensive lab they have to send that stuff out and they
can't not charge you for them. But this group *does* take cash.
$125 for an office visit (might be higher now, I haven't gone in a
couple of years).

Still, if I thought I was allergic to something which, after only
injesting a small amount, made it feel like someone was sitting on
my chest or my esophagus was closing up and made me completely
nauseous for most of the day, I'd find some way to go. ebrian is
gambling his health for what? A few eggs? There could be pills
available for the allergy, or shots, not the last minute "oh [censored]!"
epi-pen thing.

Jill

You make a great point Jill. I think I'll take your advice and go
have it checked out. Maybe part of it is laziness too, but yea, I
need to go have it checked out, and at least confirmed. As I've
mentioned hard-boiled eggs seem to be fine for me as well, another
reason to have it checked and confirmed.

I'm not a doctor and I don't play one on TV <G> It could be boiled eggs
don't bother you as much because perhaps the real issue problem is butter.
Most people prepare fried eggs (and even soft scrambled) with a little
butter. Could be milk; some people add milk to scrambled eggs. You really
won't know until you have the tests done.

Jill

You are playing around with what possibly could be a deadly allergy.
You should see an allergist.

Food allergies tend to worsen per each episode. In other words, your
initial episodes may have been very mild, but each time you "give in"
and eat something with eggs in it, your symptoms easily could get
worse. Your symptoms are what I experience with my allergy to tree
nuts. Each time I accidentally eat a miniscule portion of something
that has, say, filbert oil in it, I tend to end up in the ER. Each
time is worse than the last. I never eat anything if I can't ask the
cook, and that would be a good rule for you, too.

There is absolutely no reason not to go to an allergist. Do it.

N.

jmcquown said:

Pennyaline said:

JoeSpareBedroom said:

"Cindi - HappyMamatoThree" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> All I can say about the doctor thing is it is far cheaper and safer
> to find a doctor than to have to go to the ER or worse the morgue.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Cindi

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Everyone knows finding a doctor is almost impossible. It might
involve asking friends and coworkers if they have a doctor they like
a lot. Very difficult. Then, after meeting the doctor, you have to
decide if you like the person. Now, you're asking a lot.

Quoted message said:

Plus the doctor has to either accept your insurance plan or be willing
to take your money out of pocket... oh my god, what are the chances of
THAT happening?

My doctor (whom I've known since before he was one) works in a practice with
other doctors. If it were up to him, which it's not, he'd treat me for
basic stuff like a sinus infection or an ear infection (since I know when I
have one, dammit!) for a very nominal fee.

Tests, like allergy tests, are a different story. Unless the office has a
rather extensive lab they have to send that stuff out and they can't not
charge you for them. But this group *does* take cash. $125 for an office
visit (might be higher now, I haven't gone in a couple of years).

Still, if I thought I was allergic to something which, after only injesting
a small amount, made it feel like someone was sitting on my chest or my
esophagus was closing up and made me completely nauseous for most of the
day, I'd find some way to go. ebrian is gambling his health for what? A
few eggs? There could be pills available for the allergy, or shots, not the
last minute "oh [censored]!" epi-pen thing.

Jill

Antihistimines (OTC) will work sometimes, just as fast as the epi-
pen. Still, self-medicating isn't a good idea in this case. I saw
today that Iowa is # 2 on the list of states with excellent, easy-to-
find, medical care, so maybe I'm spoiled. I don't have any problem
finding a doctor to treat me, either via my insurance, or my checkbook
after the fact.

N.

jmcquown said:

I'm not a doctor and I don't play one on TV <G> It could be boiled eggs
don't bother you as much because perhaps the real issue problem is butter.
Most people prepare fried eggs (and even soft scrambled) with a little
butter. Could be milk; some people add milk to scrambled eggs. You really
won't know until you have the tests done.

You could have something there. My allergy tests were positive for milk and
eggs. I have lactose issues too. I am not sure I would call it intolerance,
compared to what some people go through with that. I wonder if it is a
common combination.

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Nancy2 said:

You are playing around with what possibly could be a deadly allergy.
You should see an allergist.

Food allergies tend to worsen per each episode. In other words, your
initial episodes may have been very mild, but each time you "give in"
and eat something with eggs in it, your symptoms easily could get
worse. Your symptoms are what I experience with my allergy to tree
nuts. Each time I accidentally eat a miniscule portion of something
that has, say, filbert oil in it, I tend to end up in the ER. Each
time is worse than the last. I never eat anything if I can't ask the
cook, and that would be a good rule for you, too.

There is absolutely no reason not to go to an allergist. Do it.

N.

Ditto.

I find that my reaction to wheat has worsened over the years.

Now when I give in, my blood pressure drops and my heart rate hits
around 130.

I've not given in to temptation for awhile now.

<sigh>

There are too many alternatives and I've given up bread permanently at
this point.
--
Peace, Om

Remove _ to validate e-mails.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]" -- Jack Nicholson

Dave Smith said:

jmcquown said:

I'm not a doctor and I don't play one on TV <G> It could be boiled
eggs don't bother you as much because perhaps the real issue problem
is butter. Most people prepare fried eggs (and even soft scrambled)
with a little butter. Could be milk; some people add milk to
scrambled eggs. You really won't know until you have the tests done.

You could have something there. My allergy tests were positive for
milk and eggs. I have lactose issues too. I am not sure I would call
it intolerance, compared to what some people go through with that. I
wonder if it is a common combination.

Could be dairy in general, with eggs being the least problem but a common
factor if we're talking about scrambled/fried/butter/possibly lactose. The
OP stated in another reply he's Chinese (or of Chinese descent, something
like that). I'd sure want to find out one way or the other.

Jill

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Thanks for the information Cindi. I have heard in the past that eggs
are a common allergy, but every time I mention my allergy to anyone I
know, I get the comment "Really? I've never heard of anyone allergic
to eggs!", which is often followed by "Man, that must suck.".

I can't tell anyone how dangerous it is to risk food allergies. My first
reaction was to shrimp which I had eaten all my life. My two medication food
interactions. The first cost me a week in the ICU and a bout of bradycardia
where my heart rate dropped to 20 and the second got me cardiac massage and
a lovely extended visit.

The first reactions can be mild and so you just ignore them. Then suddenly
your body decides to react in a more severe way and you can't treat it.
Prevention is so much better than treating the problem. HOWEVER, not all
allergy causes are simple to treat or are treatable at all. Part of mine are
not.

Good luck in searching for a doctor. Though sometimes doctors don't want to
treat the high risk. I am lucky to have a team who are willing to work hard.

Cindi

jmcquown said:

Dave Smith said:

jmcquown wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I'm not a doctor and I don't play one on TV <G> It could be boiled
eggs don't bother you as much because perhaps the real issue problem
is butter. Most people prepare fried eggs (and even soft scrambled)
with a little butter. Could be milk; some people add milk to
scrambled eggs. You really won't know until you have the tests done.

Quoted message said:

You could have something there. My allergy tests were positive for
milk and eggs. I have lactose issues too. I am not sure I would call
it intolerance, compared to what some people go through with that. I
wonder if it is a common combination.

Could be dairy in general, with eggs being the least problem but a common
factor if we're talking about scrambled/fried/butter/possibly lactose. The
OP stated in another reply he's Chinese (or of Chinese descent, something
like that). I'd sure want to find out one way or the other.

Jill

Milk's not a problem for me. Someone earlier mentioned duck eggs -- I
have eaten these without any problems at all. Maybe it's just chicken
eggs. A few years ago someone also suggested to me that the proteins
are altered during frying, and possibly my stomach enzymes are
incapable of breaking down just those particular proteins and that
would explain why I can eat hard-boiled but not fried or baked.

Shrug.. in general I just do my best to avoid *anything* with eggs,
and when in the oft chance I find something that I didn't know had
eggs, I'm usually very careful. I'd take a few nibbles and wait 15-20
minutes to see if anything happens.

Steve Wertz said:

ebrian said:

In addition, I really do miss out on the ability to cook a lot of
things, without cooking with eggs. You know what I mean? There's
just a lot of things that require egg.

The only things I make that I need eggs for, or would miss if I
couldn't eat eggs, would be mayonnaise.

I could live without them easily.

I wonder if the OP is allergic to egg yolks, or just the whites. Mayo
should (ideally) not contain any egg white. I could do w/o egg whites
easily enough too, but egg yolks I would miss.

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-sw

--Bryan

ebrian said:

I'm just wondering if anyone has a similar allergy that I have, what
they do about it. I don't carry around an epi-pen, I just watch what
I eat and usually I can get away with it. I've never gone to get this
tested. Sometimes I've just gone ahead even when I felt symptoms, if
the food was really worth it. And then I just 'ride it out' until it
has passed.

My allergy is most to fried eggs, as in scrambled eggs. Hard-boiled
eggs don't appear to be a problem for me, however I've pretty much
given up all forms of pure egg.

Recently I found that some of the 'richer' cakes and cookies also give
me the same allergic reactions. In the past, this wasn't a problem.
I wonder if my body has just weakened to all forms of eggs in general
over time.

My symptoms are the feeling that my throat is shrinking (the food
tube, not the air tube), and I get a lot of phlegm build up. If I get
a larger dose of egg, I'll start to get chest pains, feeling like
someone is standing on top of my chest while I'm lying down. It's a
little difficult to breathe but not too bad. Hurts more on the inhale
than the exhale.

Anyway it's like I said, I don't carry an allergy pen and usually if
I've eaten something that turns out to have egg in it, I'll just stop
eating and ride out the symptoms. It's not bad, I don't think it's
fatal or anything, just major discomfort.

Everything everyone has said has been greatly appreciated. I never
thought that there'd be others like me, I just thought I was weird.
When I was little I had some of these symptoms minorly, but my parents
forced me to continue eating eggs because they were good for me. They
had never heard of such an allergy and insisted it was all
psychological. So in that sense it's somewhat comforting to know
that I'm not crazy, and that there are others like me that have
experienced the same type of symptoms. (not that I'm taking pleasure
that other people have allergies!)

Secondly it never occurred to me that allergies could get worse each
time, that's definitely something I've taken from this. I've always
kind of just looked out for myself and avoided eggs, but now knowing
that it can get worse and worse, I realize now I shouldn't be taking
these risks, like taking a bite of something that *may* have eggs and
crossing my fingers -- not very smart. I should stop beating around
the bush and just get myself checked.

ebrian said:

I'm just wondering if anyone has a similar allergy that I have, what
they do about it. I don't carry around an epi-pen, I just watch what
I eat and usually I can get away with it. I've never gone to get this
tested. Sometimes I've just gone ahead even when I felt symptoms, if
the food was really worth it. And then I just 'ride it out' until it
has passed.

My allergy is most to fried eggs, as in scrambled eggs. Hard-boiled
eggs don't appear to be a problem for me, however I've pretty much
given up all forms of pure egg.

Recently I found that some of the 'richer' cakes and cookies also give
me the same allergic reactions. In the past, this wasn't a problem.
I wonder if my body has just weakened to all forms of eggs in general
over time.

My symptoms are the feeling that my throat is shrinking (the food
tube, not the air tube), and I get a lot of phlegm build up. If I get
a larger dose of egg, I'll start to get chest pains, feeling like
someone is standing on top of my chest while I'm lying down. It's a
little difficult to breathe but not too bad. Hurts more on the inhale
than the exhale.

Anyway it's like I said, I don't carry an allergy pen and usually if
I've eaten something that turns out to have egg in it, I'll just stop
eating and ride out the symptoms. It's not bad, I don't think it's
fatal or anything, just major discomfort.

Do you know how serious an allergy like that can be?! Yes, it seems
like it's getting worse with time, because it IS! You might be able to
'get away' with ignoring it now, but one day your body is going to say
'that's enough' and if you're very lucky the ambulance will get there
in time to get you to the ER...

Never EVER continue to eat something that has egg in it.

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ebrian said:

Sorry.. and I'm not here looking for a doctor either. Just hoping
someone else has something similar to me and knows how to deal with
it.

In addition, I really do miss out on the ability to cook a lot of
things, without cooking with eggs. You know what I mean? There's
just a lot of things that require egg.

Have you tried using Egg Beaters?

Egg Beaters are eggs. They're egg whites with food coloring.

Ms P

Ms P said:

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On Wed, 13 Jun 2007 17:53:40 -0000, ebrian <[email hidden]> wrote:

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Quoted message said:

Sorry.. and I'm not here looking for a doctor either. Just hoping
someone else has something similar to me and knows how to deal with
it.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

In addition, I really do miss out on the ability to cook a lot of
things, without cooking with eggs. You know what I mean? There's
just a lot of things that require egg.

Quoted message said:

Have you tried using Egg Beaters?

Egg Beaters are eggs. They're egg whites with food coloring.

They are garbage.

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Ms P

--Bryan

kilikini wrote:

I said:

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Plus the doctor has to either accept your insurance plan or be willing
to take your money out of pocket... oh my god, what are the chances of
THAT happening?

The only 4 doctors in my plan refused to treat me because of my rare
condition, so I have insurance and no doctor. They say I'm a high-risk
patient. So, even if you're entitled to medical care, that doesn't mean
you're going to get it.

I've been in this business too long to accept that explanation. Doctors
treat high risk patients all the time, very high risk... outrageously
high risk! They get treated. There is a doctor who will treat you, too.

If the high risk factor was a true deterrent, no cancer patient would
ever be seen by a physician. There would be no obstetricians, no
surgeons (especially no plastic and vascular surgeons), no
pediatricians. But there are, because high risk is not all there is to it.

Second, I've been in this business too long to accept the defense that
one is entitled to medical care. Some have insurance, some pay out of
pocket, some break open the piggy bank, some get public assistance, but
none are entitled to medical care. Only in a socialist society is any
one service an entitlement of all. Sorry if it's not what you want to
hear (it's not what I want to hear either), but as things are now, there
is no entitlement. You must qualify somehow.

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